to think ending Freedom of Movement on Oct 31st is a disaster waiting to happen

[chomalungma]

There are several million settled EU citizens who haven't applied for settled status yet.

What happens to companies who want to recruit foreigners after Oct 31st? What bureaucracy has been set up?

It's a disaster waiting to happen. Will we have people who live here refused entry? Only given a few months on an entry visa?

I hate the country we have become.

@Palermonese

DS has a traditionally 'posh' English first name to go with his foreign surname. DC2 will be getting one too. I've read freakonomics!

@ chomalungma

''Handy I work in that field then, isn't it....''

As Mrs Brown says ''that's nice.....''

Still Meh............................:)

Can't wait to see what happens to Roma as currently protected through the EU. Boris will probably send them away. Once again shunned, moved on and then Parliament wonder why they don't access school and healthcare.

Can't wait to see what happens to Roma as currently protected through the EU
Boris will probably send them away
I didn't he could, I thought everyone resident at the moment in the UK could stay.
He can hardly enthicly cleanse or can he.
Will health care and benefits automatically stop for EE citizens in the UK, unless they do the photo thing, is everybody guaranteed to be accepted if they register.

Can't wait to see what happens to Roma as currently protected through the EU. Boris will probably send them away
Bold fail.

It's all relative, will Brexit be a disaster, probably, but some of us can't get any lower on the class system so I think it will end up being the middle class hit hardest. As for freedom of movement, they have always had the chance to limit non EU, they didn't do it, there will be a loop hole for EU movement mark my words. If for nothing else, they have to keep the housing market demand astronomically above supply...It's probably the top economic driver in this country.

@EmeraldShamrock

Who's life? My life is being ruined by knife crime, poor schooling for kids and lack of job opportunity so having to work 2 part time jobs...oh and having four kids in a 2 bed flat as desperately had to get away from violent and abusive ex h...Brexit doesn't fall on my radar. I'm sure it does on others who are from EU countries, but they have already been granted the right to stay...So whose life's are being ruined and how?

If you think the NHS is under pressure now, wait and see what happens if the Government fails to secure reciprocal healthcare. A lot of British pensioners across the EU will be forced to return in that scenario, whilst the working age EU workers we have used to prop up our services disappear.

They did it to their own Romani in Kent, cleansing Kent. I'm sure they'll have no problem with European.
So sad not just for Roma, that's just close to home for me. But I'm ok Jack because I'm English. Why don't we care about the little groups anymore, we can't do or the Cons wouldn't be "sending them back"
I'm no politician but having grown up in the 70's I see the gap widening between the have and have nots. We will experience far more poverty I'm sure.

Vik, you are deluded if you think this won't effect you or each and every one of us.

Start crowdfunding to sue the home office for incompetent decisions. I don’t think they are accountable for their mistakes.

Ooops- actually our assumption that xyz was the case is not true and you had to spend thousands on lawyers and bills to our extortionate phone service... well here is your visa...

Do you think that a) home office sit and look at each case and fairly, looking at reasonable probabilities or b) deny any visa/permit as a default in line with some hostile environment policy unless people fight for it???

you are deluded if you think this won't effect you or each and every one of us.

It won't affect the labour strongholds who voted leave though, that's why it has caused tears across our political spectrum, it can't be brushed aside as just being uneducated either it's far more nuanced than that.

It would help if a lot of remainers actually accepted they are neolib at heart and stop with the "working class routes" bollocks, we might be able to at least move the discussion on somewhat, some are still treating this scenario as just anti tory partisan shite.

@VikVal I think the worry is ruining lots of people's life.
I am sorry about your circumstances, if your life is being affected by knife crime, cramped living conditions, you must live in a built up area.
I do understand the frustration for property the rent in this area is 1000 euro more than it was a decade ago, though I don't think Brexit was needed to fix it.
The government's should have discussed free movement and clamped down where necessary.

It will affect labour strongholds. We are experiencing the same in the North as the South.
Just as much job insecurity, but lots of min wage jobs likely to go in the future. Have noticed some local small companies closing down.
Of course it affects everyone, it doesn't matter where you live or who you are.

It's all relative, will Brexit be a disaster, probably, but some of us can't get any lower on the class system so I think it will end up being the middle class hit hardest.

are you sure?

would food shortages and price hikes not affect the poor?

would a complete breakdown of the NHS - far worse than anything we've seen- not affect the poor?

would sending whatever police forces we still have off to keep the peace in Northern Ireland not affect the poor?

would shortages of medication not affect the poor?

would enabling rich people to duck out of EU rules on tax avoidance not affect the poor?

It's the wealthy and the comfortably-off middle class who can afford to sit this one out. Even people like myself, who are not well off, but could probably manage private health insurance if I cut down on everything else, who have a garden and an allotment which could be used for food production, who wouldn't come to any harm if we just ate less, who live in places not greatly affected by knife crime.

There is no way Boris & chums are going to use the end of FOM to stop Russian oligarchs buying up London- they stand to make too much money from that (and are not affected by EU rules in the first place)

note that the Tories have made it perfectly clear that rich people will still be let into the country after Brexit