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Original poster

To think giving a young child have a cold shower as a punishment isn't acceptable

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InkedGreen · 19/08/2019 10:23

The SJs have said they give their children cold showers as a punishment, and there's evidence to suggest this has been going on for years (in video I'll post below). All the 2 year old did was take out poo from her nappy when she was in her cot. Isn't this expected if she's potty training and is uncomfortable in bed?

They've deleted the video (a copy is below) and said it wasn't cold and just lukewarm and deleted and blocked anyone that questions them.

Is this a normal punishment for anyone else? Lots of their fans are thanking them for a good idea!?

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NameChange84 · 19/08/2019 11:04

@staydazzling Previously banned poster.

There were several cold shower threads in a matter of hours and then some more the next day. Once the threads started being deleted, one was started saying something along the lines of “I’m a PhD student please answer if you think cold showers are a good form on discipline.”

There were others worded very similar to the OP but seemed off kilter. Ie “What do think of cold showers as discipline? Ok or not? 2 year old is taking poo out of her nappy and putting it in her bed. Dad giving her cold showers. What do we think?” None of the posts mentioned the family.

So I was initially suspicious of OP but accept this is most likely a genuine post and I did apologise.

Fundays12 · 19/08/2019 11:09

It’s cruel and awful parenting I hope social services see it and investigate them.

Trafalger · 19/08/2019 11:10

I have no idea who they are, I have no idea what kind of people watch this shite, how can these people earn £££ for just talking shite about parenting? I hope this whole youtuber/Instagram shite stops soon. It's such a shallow world that they seem to want.

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InkedGreen · 19/08/2019 11:15

Oh I saw their last video about trolling. But they're really not doing themselves any favours complaining about being reported to SS then broadcasting to everyone their cruel parenting!

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NameChange84 · 19/08/2019 11:17

@InkedGreen I agree!

ThePolishWombat · 19/08/2019 11:20

YANBU Sad
In my book, that is abuse.
The child is 2 for fuck sake Sad They strike me as people who expect their kids to be silent, compliant little robots Sad Poor sods.

CarolDanvers · 19/08/2019 11:24

There was a poster on here a few years ago that advocated this. Apparently she would cold shower her child while telling them that she wouldn't have to do this if they hadn't made such a mess blah blah blah. She was roasted to a cinder for it but didn't name change because I saw her around for a long time after that post and her strenuous defence of doing it. I thought of her holding her two year old under a cold shower while emotionally abusing her by telling her it was her own fault every time I saw a post from her.

CarolDanvers · 19/08/2019 11:25

Oh and it wasn't a dodgy cold shower poster either. She was here for ages posting about anything and everything.

GingerKittenHuman · 19/08/2019 11:27

That’s so shocking. I’m struggling to believe that parents would broadcast such a thing. Poor little girl, she can’t consent to this.

I don’t know anything about them but I’m curious to know if it the cold shower had just happened as the dad seems to be looking at his hands and flexing them. His knuckles look white. Or maybe that’s my imagination running over time.

chocolatemademefat · 19/08/2019 11:32

Is their identity some kind of mumsnet secret? Why will no one tell us who they are?

LatteLove · 19/08/2019 11:36

I’ve got no idea who they are but if they are doing that to a child that’s an absolute disgrace

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InkedGreen · 19/08/2019 11:36

There the saconejollys ! Irish YouTubers with millions of followers and used by so many parenting brands to promote things

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ChipsAreLife · 19/08/2019 11:36

Well I didn't know that, I've followed them for years on Instagram but have deleted now after hearing this. That's a horrid thing to do to a young child who doesn't understand they've been bad. Poor little girl

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InkedGreen · 19/08/2019 11:37

They're

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Greywalls12 · 19/08/2019 11:37

How awful, why would anyone do this! Surely that's normal at that age?? No need to punish them in such a cruel way, sounds more like abuse

Caxx · 19/08/2019 11:38

This happened to me when I was a child as I used to be sick in my sleep
It had left me at 42 with a water phobia that is very difficult to control

NeedingAdvice29 · 19/08/2019 11:40

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DelphicOracle · 19/08/2019 11:43

Oh my god........ I literally nearly cried watching that - only did about half of it before I had to close it.... I literally cannot believe how anybody could think this was ok? I am even more shocked that even in their own home if they thought this was OK, that they think its acceptable enough to POST IT ON YOU TUBE!

They literally talked about it like it was putting her on the naughty step. It actually makes my heart squeeze a bit, to think about them doing that to her - how scared she must have been. And to do it over something she has no control over or cognitive reasoning it abuse. Plain and simple.

I say this as a most certainly, not perfect, parent myself..... its so terrifying.....

Thesearmsofmine · 19/08/2019 11:43

I don’t know about the OP NeedingAdvice29 but I have seen the video and am disgusted by it and I’m not a troll.

We should be able to talk about this because they have millions of followers who copy them and this is not an acceptable way to treat a small child.

Gobbolinothewitchscat · 19/08/2019 11:43

How is it "targeting" someone or "trolling" to comment on a matter of fact contained in a vlog which had been published for the general public to watch?

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InkedGreen · 19/08/2019 11:43

Oh fuck off. Mn can check I've never posted about them before.

It's not trolling talking about the video they choose to release!

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Doyoureallyneedtoask · 19/08/2019 11:50

They are sure of themselves if they are posting it. JSJ has previously said they don’t show disciplining the children.

If it’s now a lukewarm shower and not a cold shower as they claim, why can’t Anna supposedly bring herself to shower the TWO year old.

LatteLove · 19/08/2019 11:54

This poster is a troll who has repeatedly targeted the family they are posting about.

Troll hunting is banned.

In addition, many people would view giving toddlers cold showers as a form of child abuse. It would be perfectly legitimate for someone to be targeted if they were doing this.

SistersOfMerci · 19/08/2019 12:05

She may as well be giving that poor two year old award slap or heating up a spoon and putting it on their skin.

Appalling way to treat a child of any age but a two year old?

I'd like to think children's services would take an interest in this.

My two year old used to do the same when he was little, amazingly enough he just grew out of it with just having a warm shower to clean him up, no waterboarding type treatments required!

Doyoureallyneedtoask · 19/08/2019 12:05

It doesn’t matter who posted it. The information is correct. It is cruel behaviour from ‘influencers’ who influence other people.