WIBU to insist on this pram?

[aliensprig]

I really, really want a Bugaboo Fox. In the reviews it ticks all the boxes for me: sturdy, lightweight, all-terrain, great storage and obviously pretty damn gorgeous!!

BUT DH doesn't think we should spend a grand on something we'll only use for about three years and wants us to get something second hand. He doesn't understand that there are literally billions of types out there, and some of the cheaper brands are cheap for a reason!

Also he won't ever be pushing the damn thing - I don't drive, and will be doing A LOT of walking with it. We live in a hilly town with some rural areas, so just buying something at random from the Argos catalogue isn't going to cut it. It needs to be light, easily folded, have good storage and be able to tackle mud, uneven ground, hills and busy streets.

WIBU to just buy the Fox regardless? We're not rich by any means, but we're not poor either, we can afford it. Plus I expect my parents will want to cover half the cost. Or should I compromise and get something cheaper like the baby jogger city mini? I don't like that it's forward facing only, but it's another all-terrain and my husband is more likely to agree on that one...

YANBU I spent close to that on a Silver Cross for DD and used it every day for nearly 2 years, and recently purchased the lightweight version.

My pram/travel system is boxed back up for when we have baby number 2. I don't see it as a waste of money bloody loved that pram!

YANBU, if you can afford it then get it. I love my pram, it was almost a grand, but so worth it.

I wasn't sure I even needed a pram, I planned to carry the baby in a sling. But it turned out that a pram was essential after an emergency c section and we use it a lot. The carrycot is also certified for overnight sleeping so it's useful for travelling.

You can't guarantee it will last you three years my son was way too tall to last in any of the posh brands! We ended up with a silver cross reflex buggy by a year old.

I always thought Silver Cross was the ultimate posh brand!?

It would have been a complete waste of money for me. DS2 is six months old on Sunday an has been in a pram about 5-10 times in his life. I also walk everyday but he goes in a sling not a pram. So that pram would have worked out £100-200 a use.

Having had 2 kids, would I spend a grand on a pram? Nah.

It sounds like you want it because it’s a bugaboo.
Do you think there’s parents sitting there with £300 prams unable to leave the house because it’s not ‘all terrain, light etc’? Nope!
I’m sure people have negatives about the specified pushchair too.

I don't drive either so I wanted a nice light pram. Mine was £700 and the most expensive thing we bought, it was so light and easy. I used mine up until my son was 2 but it wasn't light and easy anymore... I switched to the lightest pushchair I've ever seen - gb pockit. I sold my old pram for £300 so it's not bad. If you can afford it then get it but look after it so you can sell it on when it's no longer practical.

Do you think there’s parents sitting there with £300 prams unable to leave the house because it’s not ‘all terrain, light etc’? Nope!

But if she can afford it why not?

It isn’t just a practical thing though is it? It’s nice to have a nice looking pram! I had second hand clothes, a second hand cot (new mattress) but I really really wanted a new travel system, so I got one for £900 2 years ago when I had my first, I’ve now got a 9 week old & am using it for her to! So I definitely feel I’ve got my money’s worth & I still love the buggy. It gets used every day now with a second hand buggy board for the eldest! If you want it, buy it! You can use it for subsequent children (if you choose to have more)

I agree with both of you. I chose the pram I wanted and bought it without even consulting my husband because I'm the one that's going to be mostly using it. I think fancy prams can be worth it and I dont think their use ends at age 1. How can I put my shopping in a small stroller? Also my bub preferred to parent face even as a toddler, and I also like a good sunshade for the baby.

However I bought mine second hand. If you are currently pregnant, you don't need it straight away, why not just keep an eye out and in the next few months I'm sure one will come up in your area. Not sure why it's a choice between "the pram I want new" and "some shit pram I hate second hand".

I loved my pram (an icandy peach). It's pretty fancy, came 2ndhand for a great price looking practically new, with all the accessories (that normally they nickle and dime you for) and when I was done with it I sold it for about the same amount I paid for it.

I spent £600 on our all terrain travel system. It's been worth every penny. The car seat was perfect for our needs (lie flat) and the pushchair is still going strong 2 years on. It's got quite a compact footprint so isn't as cumbersome as some of the other big pushchairs and has handled woodland/field walks well.

I have bought a separate stroller but that's so that we have a civilised not-caked-in-mud pushchair for taking if we'll be going into museums/restaurants/cafes etc.

The all terrain is still the first choice for everything else.

People use their pushchairs for different things. It stands to reason that a pushchair built to cope with a rural existence will have features that ramp the price up, but on top of that you're paying a bit for the Bugaboo name.

Also, the bit about your parents paying half.
Would you really take £500 off your parents just to appease your own selfish wants?
Let’s face it, your child won’t care what they’re sat in.

@LaurieMarlow because her partner doesn’t agree and I’m assuming it’s his money too?

I had a bugaboo cameleon for my first DC. It was about £700 at the time. Like you I don't drive. I used it everyday and walked for miles with it. DC was so snug and comfortable in it and slept so well. It was well worth it. I never felt the need for a stroller type buggy either. They look uncomfortable for sleeping DCs compared to the bugaboo, closer to the ground and not enough suspension.
When I had my second DC I bought a Phil and Teds double, but DC2 didn't like the carry cot section and wouldn't go in it, so I had to put her in a sling and so I ended up still using the Bugaboo for DC1.
Overall, a lot of use was gotten out of it and it worth every penny. Sold it on Ebay for a couple of of hundred pounds. It was thoroughly worn out then, as been everywhere with us, even several times on holidays abroad.

You can learn to drive for £1000.

I had a bugaboo and so many parts of it broke/needed replacing, (happened to everyone i know who had a bugaboo) ended up getting a joie from Argos which was brilliant and only cost £100

Would you really take £500 off your parents just to appease your own selfish wants?

That’s very loaded given you know the circs. Her parents might be well off and wanting to contribute

Let’s face it, your child won’t care what they’re sat in.

I do think there’s a difference in comfort levels personally. That’s not to say you have to spend a grand for the child to be comfortable, but we’ve taken cheap strollers on holidays and DC didn’t enjoy it.

Sorry ‘don’t know the circs’

Let’s face it, your child won’t care what they’re sat in.

strangest comment of the thread.
A baby is a human being, he will notice if he's comfortable!You will also notice if you have a cheap and unpractical one.

Just because some parents struggle with crap prams doesn't mean you should have one! What a ridiculous statement. If you can afford something that works for you, why on earth wouldn't you buy it?

@aliensprig we did a LOT of research into a pram for DS, and in the end it didn't come down to price... it came down to which suited us best and it was the Bugaboo Fox. DP was very reluctant to pay the money but I persuaded him, and now he admits it was worth it because it suits us so well!

For us we find the Fox a dream to push, it does long muddy rural walks really well, the basket is huge and we can put our small semi-disabled dog in it when he needs a break, it does a full recline so baby can have lunch time
Nap in it, and it's fully customisable so I could pick what colours I wanted for it. DS was our first child and I was so excited about the pram so it was just a nice extra to be able to pick what it looked like!

We have no doubt it'll still be around for the next child so we consider it an investment.

If in doubt.... try it out and try it out again! Go to multiple shops spend ages pushing it folding it trying it al out, comparing it to other models. It really helps!

@SeriouslyEnoughAlreadyRantOver so all cheap prams are uncomfortable and impractical now?

Right o.
It must suck to be that heavily materialistic.

‘That’s very loaded given you know the circs. Her parents might be well off and wanting to contribute’

well, no. Not really, £500 is £500 no matter how rich you are.

I love the assumptions that I’m clearly poor with a crap pram too.

Good lord jelly do you want some vinegar to go with that chip?

It is certainly not necessary to spend big bucks on a pram. However, like anything else, if you can afford it it’s sometimes nice to spend money on a high end product that you will enjoy using.

I’ve no idea of her financial circs, but the DH could easily be spending freely on things he values. The pram just doesn’t happen to a priority. Who knows 🤷‍♀️

Just get one second hand OP. Keep checking Facebook marketplace, there's always tons and tons of prams on there. You will be able to find one.

You can learn to drive for £1000.

OP can't drive because of her health.

It's like anything else. Some people will buy a car for £500, others for £5,000 and others for £50,000. There's nothing wrong with spending extra to get a product you like if it's money you have. It's just silly to do so if it doesn't actually fit your needs. There's also nothing wrong with switching to a cheap stroller or buying second hand. But it's ok for OP not to want that.

I have absolutely no chip on my shoulder, I just find it bizarre the comments on these threads that come from people who clearly are materialistic and everything cheap and not popular is beneath them and shit.

The assumption from them that parents are putting their children in something cheap and nasty just because it’s not top of the range is to be frank, disgusting.