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WIBU to insist on this pram?

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aliensprig · 14/08/2019 09:15

I really, really want a Bugaboo Fox. In the reviews it ticks all the boxes for me: sturdy, lightweight, all-terrain, great storage and obviously pretty damn gorgeous!!

BUT DH doesn't think we should spend a grand on something we'll only use for about three years and wants us to get something second hand. He doesn't understand that there are literally billions of types out there, and some of the cheaper brands are cheap for a reason!

Also he won't ever be pushing the damn thing - I don't drive, and will be doing A LOT of walking with it. We live in a hilly town with some rural areas, so just buying something at random from the Argos catalogue isn't going to cut it. It needs to be light, easily folded, have good storage and be able to tackle mud, uneven ground, hills and busy streets.

WIBU to just buy the Fox regardless? We're not rich by any means, but we're not poor either, we can afford it. Plus I expect my parents will want to cover half the cost. Or should I compromise and get something cheaper like the baby jogger city mini? I don't like that it's forward facing only, but it's another all-terrain and my husband is more likely to agree on that one...

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Gingerbreadsonme · 14/08/2019 11:00

My pic would be a Babyjogger City elite. You can get a bassinet attachment for the first 3 or so months. It’ll cost you less than £500 and they last for years. And are genuinely good as an all terrain buggy. It wouldn’t matter if I was a millionaire, this is the buggy I would buy. Mine’s lasted 5 years of heavy use and still in excellent condition. Never downsized to a light stroller because it’s so much easier to push a big heavy toddler in it!

whattodowith · 14/08/2019 11:01

I live in a small historical hilly town with some cobbles, lots of uneven pathways and some muddy tracks. My bugaboo cameleon has been absolutely fantastic and the best thing is, they sell on well too so you can recoup some money. Plus if you decide to keep it and have another child in a few years it will still look great.

I’m a huge Bugaboo fan so I can fully understand you wanting to buy one. You could compromise and get a second hand one.

pictish · 14/08/2019 11:01

Sorry if I’m repeating what someone else has said...I haven’t read the thread. Just wanted to pop in and say you are not going to want to be bothered with that huge thing when your baby is mobile and sitting up...you’ll end up ditching for a wee stroller. I’d bet my last tenner on it.
I’m all for you getting the pram you want...but you won’t use it for three years.

teachermam · 14/08/2019 11:01

Get it second hand

Zuma76 · 14/08/2019 11:01

I would think carefully about this. I have a friend who spent £1k on a bugaboo and used it for about 6 months the then just got a McClaren stroller for £100, which is light, easy to fold and perfect for public transport. I got a pram on eBay and then after 6 months bought a running buggy as by that time I’d worked out what I actually needed. As pp have said you could have a baby who hates being in the buggy and you have to have a sling all the time.

HerkyBaby · 14/08/2019 11:07

I bought a second hand mountain buggy terrain- an incredible bit of kit. Perfect for all terrains and folded down to practically flat. It’s not a question of affordability really it’s a question of us there anything better to spend your money on. Would Getting something cheaper enable you to take an extra months maternity leave or pay for a cleaner to enable you to spend as much time as possible with your new born ?

hsegfiugseskufh · 14/08/2019 11:07

also a stroller doesn't have to be an umbrella kind, I did buy one of those but ds sort of hung out of it. I bought a hauck rapid 4, which is like a solid seat because it doesn't fold in the middle. Its huge. He's quite long and I reckon he'd still fit in it now at 3.5

I think it was about £80 when I bought it and it has been worth every penny!

Kpo58 · 14/08/2019 11:08

The bugaboo fox doesn't look like it has much practical storage underneath it with that shape basket. You definitely won't be able to bring much shopping home with it. If you aren't just doing online shopping, how are you going to bring it home?

When you do decide on a buggy, get a Buggy G clip type thing so that you can hang bags from the handle when the basket is too full.

Bollockingfuck · 14/08/2019 11:09

Also worth bearing in mind if you and OH are tall - the fix only goes to 17kg and bugaboo seats are very snug imo. Most buggies are only tested to 15kg but jogger styles / US imports usually significantly higher.
All my children would have outgrown it by age 2 - even my 32
Just my viewpoint from another non-driver, walk everywhere, bus and train user.

Bollockingfuck · 14/08/2019 11:10

Sorry meant to write - even my 32 week prem baby was huge by 2.

bumblingalonghappily · 14/08/2019 11:11

I'm also in the 'if you want it and can afford it then buy it' group. It's your money. The bugaboo Fox does have amazing reviews and has an excellent resale value. The only thing I definitely object to is buying it if your partner isn't in full agreement.

Yeahnahmum · 14/08/2019 11:14

You "expect" your parents to pay half? But what if they dont??
And i get it.. its your first and you want to have all the cute stuff etc etc
But hell no! Sooo much wasted money.
If you really want it: buy a second hand one.
And otherwise buy a cheaper one that is still mega cute and all other things you mentioned.

You WON'T use it for 3 years op. Really you don't

sheshootssheimplores · 14/08/2019 11:14

I bought a Stokke as I fell for all the blurb. It really wasn’t my dream pram at all but I stuck with it as I’d paid about £600 then for DS2 I bought the carrycot second hand. The bloody parasol was something ridiculous like £50. My son used to grab hold of the bendy bit and wield it like a jousting stick as we passed people It was so embarrassing 🥴

As your kids get older you realise how much nonsense you bought when they were babies, and they’re babies for such a tiny amount of time. Save your money for parent and child swimming lessons and little groups. As least that’s money that’s beneficial to the child and not just some overpriced carriage.

SunshineCake · 14/08/2019 11:16

I have no idea what the pram is but so many parents spend a fortune on the first prom and a huge percentage of babies end up in an umbrella Maclaren by six months.

Constantlurker · 14/08/2019 11:17

If you want it, can afford it, buy it. But don't justify it by saying you'll use it for 3 years! My DD is 18 months and hasn't been in her buggy since she started walking as she point blank refuses to go in there. Which was 5 months ago. So we only got 13 months of use! Ours was second hand so it wasn't too much of a blow. However if you're planning on having more than 1, you can use it for both babies so it's swings and roundabouts really.

Noseyparker85 · 14/08/2019 11:18

My SIL has this pram - its a nice pram, great for shopping trips etc. its awful offroad - can't handle uneven surfaces, struggles on grass.

If you are looking for all terrain this isnt the one.

noeyedeer · 14/08/2019 11:21

I'm another saying have a look at the Mountain Buggy Terrain. I had the Maclaren XLR system, which was great and lasted my first until he was walking, but we moved to the coast when DS2 was just over a year old. I wanted something that could do woodland, sand and running. I thought I'd use the XLR for shopping trips, but it never came out of the garage again. Experience tells me that 3 wheels, especially big back wheels, are much better for off roading.

MyAppleTree · 14/08/2019 11:21

I spent a fortune on a Bugaboo, loved it and used it for 2 kids BUT I then progressed to a baby jogger and didn’t even get the Bugaboo out for child 3. The baby jogger gave me many many years of use Vs a few months of the Bugaboo.

CharityConundrum · 14/08/2019 11:22

3 years is an optimistic estimate- my oldest wouldn't sit in the pushchair much past 18 months and my youngest only went in it a handful of times in total, so maybe consider whether you would want to spend that much if you wouldn't be using it for as long as you have planned.

Lostinspacecakes · 14/08/2019 11:25

Go for it. Looked after, they hold their value very well so you wouldn’t have a problem selling it on. I had a Bug Buffalo and a Bee3 and LOVED them both.
Try bugaboo selling pages on FB. You might find a bargain Fox on there

Frouby · 14/08/2019 11:25

Don't do it OP.

Go for the Maclaren that you have have the newborn bit on. Or a cheap travel system then the Maclaren.

Ds is 5. Had a cheap travel system, then went for the maclaren when he was 6 months old. We did the school run for his sister, dog walks, horse shows, stables, holidays, days out in the countryside. Passed it onto my dsis when he was 2 (as he wanted to walk everywhere by then), dsis did similar for 2 years. Then passed it onto my niece. Saw a photo other day of it, and it's still immaculate.

ittakes2 · 14/08/2019 11:30

Yabu - sorry if I was you I would be getting a cheaper pram and spending money on driving lessons.

LaurieMarlow · 14/08/2019 11:33

We went for the Chameleon and I love it, still going strong with 15 month old DS2. I'd go for it if you can afford it, they're a dream to push.

We also have a Maclaren which is cheap and is easy to fold but I hate pushing that awkward piece of shit with a passion.

Chocolatedeficitdisorder · 14/08/2019 11:34

I ditched the travel system by the time baby was 6 months old.
I bought a McLaren umbrella fold buggy which did the job without a problem, although I didn't do a lot of offroading.

troppibambini · 14/08/2019 11:34

I had a bugaboo for my first loved it.
If you can afford it buy it.
I bought the donkey for my last too didn't love that as much.
I resold both for a good price.