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Epstein Dead

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Treaclesweet · 10/08/2019 16:33

AIBU to find it remarkably suspicious that a powerful paedophile, known to have evidence against the rich and powerful, is dead before he is brought to trial? I thought he was on suicide watch?
No justice again for the trafficked teenage girls. I'm sure Prince Andrew is very pleased.

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herculepoirot2 · 10/08/2019 16:36

Not really. Who wants to stand in the dock for sex crimes? Nobody I ever met. On the other hand, it’s perfectly possible he was bumped off. 🤷🏻‍♀️

RadicalFern · 10/08/2019 16:36

YADNBU. It is all highly suspicious.

MyFokMarelize · 10/08/2019 16:36

Are you suggesting that it might not have been suicide?

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Treaclesweet · 10/08/2019 16:39

Or that he has just been disappeared instead? There was a lot in the files about mar-a-largo...

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herculepoirot2 · 10/08/2019 16:41

And a paedophile, of course, is attracted to pre-pubescent children, not underage girls. I think we should use that word correctly.

MulberryPeony · 10/08/2019 16:46

I’m also if the opinion that perhaps someone didn’t want him talking. Let’s hope he left some irrefutable proof of their misdeeds somewhere.

zeezee3 · 10/08/2019 16:47

Shame.

MissConductUS · 10/08/2019 17:01

Or that he has just been disappeared instead?

He hanged himself and his body was taken to hospital, where there will no doubt be a postmortem examination.

www.nytimes.com/2019/08/10/nyregion/jeffrey-epstein-suicide.html

Trump has no friends in NYC government and it's a high security jail, everything videotaped, etc.

The lizard people could have done this, but not Trump.

Kochicoo · 10/08/2019 17:03

YANBU. Really suspicious. He was apparently on suicide watch already so how would he have got the time unwatched, let alone get whatever he needed to kill himself? And Fergie has apparently just arrived at Balmoral so we can all know that she is the true love of Andrew's life and not listen to the news about his alleged involvement in this scandal

LakieLady · 10/08/2019 17:04

He was supposed to be on 24-hour suicide watch.

I'd bet £1 to a pinch of poo that someone was at least bribed to turn a blind eye.

Sparklesocks · 10/08/2019 17:05

Whatever happened, and yes it’s very suspicious, I’m mainly just very sad for his victims and their families that they’ll never get to try him.

peachgreen · 10/08/2019 17:05

I have to say, I'm not generally a conspiracy theorist but it is extremely strange. Even if he did kill himself, you can't help but think a blind eye might have been deliberately turned.

Otterseatpuffinsdontthey · 10/08/2019 17:06

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LakieLady · 10/08/2019 17:09

*Trump has no friends in NYC government and it's a high security jail, everything videotaped, etc.

The lizard people could have done this, but not Trump.*

Or someone with criminal connections wanting favours from Trump may have decided to do him a favour first?

TwattyMcTwatface · 10/08/2019 17:10

People who have previously attempted suicide in prison, and are put on suicide watch as a result, successfully kill themselves every month in UK prisons - take a look at Inquest or the government figures on deaths in custody Confused

It seems bizarrely conspiratorial to suggest a man with an ego this size has been killed to silence him, especially when it is widely known that suicide in prison isn't ordinarily prevented by suicide watch, outside of the three MN threads on Epstein.

MyFokMarelize · 10/08/2019 17:13

He was supposed to be on 24-hour suicide watch

I believe that anything is possible once things reach a certain level. Although - having said that - quite why nobody has got to Trump yet remains a mystery.

AnkleWarmersAndPixieBoots · 10/08/2019 17:15

A very, very, very convenient death by apparent suicide, according to NBC news.

longwayoff · 10/08/2019 17:16

Trump has no friends in NYC. Maybe, but a backhander can go a long way.

TheBigBallOfOil · 10/08/2019 17:21

He’s dead? Good.
The maxwell lawsuit will continue, as will the associated release of documents, so that revolting specimen the duke of York is by no means in the clear.

billy1966 · 10/08/2019 17:22

All very strange.

Including the whole getting back together!

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Treaclesweet · 10/08/2019 17:52

What @billy1966 ? What's getting back together?

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Kochicoo · 10/08/2019 18:22

24 hour suicide watch doesn't prevent suicide, given the statistics but I'd imagine most of those people weren't quite as high profile as Epstein.

Cornettoninja · 10/08/2019 18:35

Why would only Trump be in the frame for conspiracy theories? Epstein was connected, almost exclusively, the rich and powerful people. There have been rumours rumbling of royalty and former world leaders hosted by his exclusive air charters.

It’s not a huge leap to think there’s a lot of people who had an interest in Epstein never going to trial.

Tinkerbrews · 10/08/2019 18:44

I believe @billy1966 was referring to the alleged reunion between Prince Andrew and Fergie, @Treaclesweet.

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