To think adults believing in ghosts are odd

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Hi,

Aibu to think grown adults believing in ghosts is a bit odd?

I have an acquaintance who is also going on about going on ghost hunts and 'investigations' at supposed haunted sights. Of course they always seem to come back from them and say the evenings where 'quiet'.

I feel it's a bit odd that a grown adult can believe in this sort of thing. They're obviously not hurting anyone with this hobby but I find it so strange they're certain that ghosts exist.

If ghosts existed, there would be some form of evidence. Same with a deity.

There are lots of things that can’t be explained or scientifically measured

I have had experiences that I can’t explain or sometimes have just known things it had the same dream as my ds

Then I am more open rather than closed to critical thinking as I don’t believe that once I have looked at all the options as to why I have had such an a experience I can accept that I still don’t know the answer

I hallucinate frequently and vividly at night during sleep/wakefulness (or when napping during the day) and have often wondered if people who only experience this say once in their lives would think they've seen a ghost (although I often do question whether I'm going into another dimension because the feeling is just bizarre and confusing - jk ) can't account for people who see things during the day wide awake though.

Why would a ghost be wearing a raincoat?! Raincoats don't have souls

Well yes, the ghost of clothing always struck me as a strange phenomenon. As does the elusiveness of ghosts, as a PP mentioned. Why are they so fleeting, and generally appearing to individuals who are alone, rather than out and open and viewed by hundreds at once? Are they shy?

But mostly, why are they mostly adults, too? For most of human history - until very recently, in fact - life expectancy has been low. You were lucky to survive your own birth. If you did, you'd likely die by age one, if not, five. If you got to adolescence then you may live a decently long life. But most people who have ever lived and died have been children and babies. There are so few child and baby ghosts reported!

But mostly, why are they mostly adults, too?

Maybe children don't have unfinished business here so they move on to wherever it is they all supposed to go.

Some religions believe that small children are pure and move to heaven kind of automatically. This may be similar.

Re the clothing. Imagine if they ended up naked😂
Ghost doing helicopter with his willy in a corner of the room. 😂

Yes, it's weird.

I'm not convinced on ghosts. Whilst I don't doubt that people have experienced them, I just don't think that the phenomena can be attributed to the soul of a dead person. I think there's some type of scientific or psychological reason behind it.
As for God, well that depends on what God is in the first place. God is not a beardy bloke in white, sat in a cloud, that's pretty certain. A Muslim pal says God (well, Allah) is 'the mysterious, unexplainable force of nature' and I quite like that.

*Well no one is denying that. If science explained everything, we wouldn't be doing it anymore. We'd have no scientists, because there would be nothing left for them to find out. So it's pretty obvious to all that science doesn't know everything

The fact that science can't explain everything and we don't know everything is not a reason to believe in ghosts. Because the science we do know, plus the complete lack of any evidence, tells us they don't exist.

If science can't explain something, then do more science, don't just latch on to any old cobblers.*

You're contracting yourself there. Because of lack of evidence you insist they don't exist, yet you say if science can't explain it then do more science. The fact that science can't explain everything and we don't know everything is not a reason to NOT believe in ghosts.

Do you believe love exists? We all feel it but you can't prove its existence. You can't photograph it, you can't measure it, you can't dissect it in a lab, you can't record it, you can't synthesise it. Does that mean it doesn't exist? There are many things that science can't yet explain or prove, it's pretty arrogant to claim they aren't real.

I've seen some very strange things in my life and I don't "have something wrong with my brain" and I'm not taking any medication. My seven year old daughter has also seen the same things as me, so I can't say it's imagination anymore.

I just can’t be dismissive when I know I don’t know everything.

Agree.

It is sad to see some people being so insulting on this thread.

I saw ghosts, as an adult.
YABU.

StarlightIntheNight

Shooting stars a quite common. There are several known meteor showers that take place every year (Perseoids, Leonoids etc) as the earth's orbit takes it through the dust trails left by comets. These showers can last several days and at their 'peak' 'shooting stars' can be seen every few minutes. Even outside of these known showers meteors can be seen as random space debris enters the earth's atmosphere and burns up. If you live in a large city or town they are more difficult to see due to light pollution but they are there.

The fact that science can't explain everything and we don't know everything is not a reason to NOT believe in ghosts

In which case it's not a reason to believe in them, either.
The "science doesn't know everything" argument (for ghosts existing) is so weak: it's carte blanche to make all sorts of ridiculous claims, rather than be rational;
to make any sort of stupid claim and say "You cant disprove it, so there". It's using science as a shield to defend their extraordinary claims, than than a tool to explain them.

People believe in all sorts of crap things, (as evidenced on this thread) and the reasons for that will vary. But the burden of proof lies with those who make extraordinary claims; who claim things for which there is no evidence, not those who deny it.

And actually, the science of love is pretty well documented and involves adrenaline, dopamine and serotonin.

LagunaBubbles

My grandfather was the most down to earth Yorkshireman you could encounter.

He was walking home from work with a workmate when they met a friend who was off work ill, they asked him about why he was all dressed up in his Sunday best, chatted went home and found out the person he had just chatted to had died hours earlier.

I'm willing to say he didn't encounter a ghost but some form of group hallucination or a folie à deux, but I would love to know what it was.

He probably just mixed his times up, sashh

I've never seen or 'felt' one, but I know some extremely level headed people, inc. relatives, who've had extraordinary experiences that have changed their minds completely. And these are people who would never make things up, or seek for such experiences at all.

I think most people are pretty much sceptics/scoffers, until something happens to change their minds.

So I do think it's U to write all believers off as 'odd'.

It's a different thing, I know, but my mother was occasionally acutely telepathic over long distances - only when someone close to her was in some sort of acute distress. We would find out afterwards that what she'd felt (or dreamed) was uncannily spot on.

Scoffers have often told me that these things were pure coincidence, and unless such a thing could be proved under lab conditions, it didn't exist.

However my mother's ability could never be proved under lab conditions, since it only ever happened in a situation of acute distress in a loved one.
But that doesn't stop me knowing that her brain could somehow pick up messages in a way nobody yet understands. However, when you think what a cheap radio can pick up out of thin air, and compare it to the huge complexity of the human brain, it's not IMO surprising at all. Nor that some people can see or sense things that others can't, and maybe never will.

The most logical explanation surely is that it was a timing mix up?

Not so odd when you've actually seen one.

But nobody has ever actually seen one, according to non-believers. That’s the thing!

If you don’t believe, you won’t think something is a ghost.

If you do believe, you won’t be convinced that it was a trick of the light and not “supernatural”.

I do find it odd that in 2019, not one single person hasn’t managed to catch anything on camera.

I once met a woman who was so hysterical about this ghost in her house. Her young daughter was also dragged into this madness, truly believing that a ghost had physically harmed her, moved objects around. The poor girl. They told me it had been goimg on for months. I asked why they hadn't moved if it had been harming her. Fuckin nut job. They were so accepting of it and revelled in the attention people gave them

I think I may have caught a ghost on video. My family and I witnessed it ‘live’ walking past a neighbours window back and fourth for around 10mins and I only filmed it to zoom in and prove to the others that it wasn’t a ghost, but after watching the footage I’m not sure what else it could be.

I’m not sure what else it could be.

The neighbour?

I grew up in a 450 odd year old wonky tudor house that creaked, whistled and groaned on a good day let alone when there were strong winds. As a kid it was quite spooky what with branches scraping on the windows, doors slamming shut, sudden draughty drops in temperatures and the dog growling at something every hour. Dozens of people had probably died in the house over the centuries and I guess if I believed in ghosts I could have had a field day attributing every noise and knock to the supernatural. I kind of took my dad's school of thought that it was a draughty poorly insulated old house that had seen better days and that dog was just doing what dogs do when they hear random noises. I saw no ghosts, or floaty torsos although I used to have great fun telling overnight visitors that the place was haunted and guess what, armed with that knowledge half thought they had 'seen' or 'felt' something the next morning. When I'd didnt bother with the childish game everyone just had a normal night's sleep it would seem.

No it doesn’t look human. I am honestly the biggest sceptic ever and even with the video I’m not truly convinced, but it is odd. I only filmed as my dad was convinced it was a ghost and I wanted to prove him wrong.