Is there much coverage in the UK of the US shootings this weekend?

[AbsentmindedWoman]

The El Paso attack definitely driven by white supremacy, the second in Ohio is uncertain regarding motivation, as yet. Possibly a lethal family row as the gunman's sister is one of the victims. At the same time some news people are asking if it was partly racially motivated, because the majority of people killed were black (in Ohio).

Not an AIBU as such but didn't see another thread discussing it. White nationalism just seems to keep gathering speed and aggression.

The comparison with muslims and terrorists doesn't hold water. Gun ownership in the States is legal and it's a democracy. And as for it not being a sensitive time to make such points, when would be a good time? There is a mass shooting somewhere in the USA almost every day.

Trump speaking on TV at the moment.

Wow. Can't beleive so many of you think it is ok not to care just because it is America.

It's soul-destroying to care and know absolutely nothing will be done. Again. And it's easier not to care as much than it is to believe that anything will be done. Because it won't.

I think it is worth talking about people like Glen Oakley, who carried children to safety. Or the mother killed while shielding her baby. Because those people deserve recognition. But another disaffected young man (and this is male violence, even though women can access guns exactly as easily) shooting people isn't news. It's a daily occurrence.

Are you saying a person with a house full of guns goes away and leaves his house full of guns with people that didn’t go through the the checks (such as they are)/hold a licence for the guns?

And I’m reading that if I’m 21 I can buy a gun in bloody Walmart!

A 21 year old here can only just buy a packet of fags in Sainsbury’s.

Or the mother killed while shielding her baby

I don't cry a lot at things on tv but watching her family interviewed, and hearing how she shielded her baby and her husband was also killed trying to protect them too - made me tearful.

They have a five year old daughter too, it was her birthday on the day of the shooting

The fact that mass shootings get so much publicity yet other shootings are overlooked is odd.

In Chicago this weekend 7 people were killed and 46 wounded in shootings. Hospitals are overwhelmed. One father lost his second son to shooting. Two of the incidents involved one person shooting 7/8 people. Yet that doesn't make international news because people being shot in Chicago is a normally, everyday occurrence. No one outside of Chicago is weeping for the kids shot there this weekend.

No worries about the guns, they all the thoughts and prayers they need.

I am a Brit in the US, and a gun owner. We have 5 rifles and 3 handguns between us. 3 of which we needed a background check for. AMA if you want to know the process.

I have never experienced any kind of violence here, and I never expect to, my state is exceptionally safe.

@Screamanger Why have you got a gun then?

@Puzzledandpissedoff "sport hunter" ffs - this obsession many Americans have with the "right" to own and use firearms is a large part of the idiotic and dangerous gun culture in the USA.

@Screamanger Why do you need 8 guns?

RezCowgirl

3 reasons. Firstly our goal is to be self sufficient in food, that includes hunting our meat. Secondly we live in remote countryside, we are not at the top of the food chain.

Thirdly, we accepted a handgun in trade for a old motorcycle we were trying to sell. Also one was inherited and important to the family.

Jesus. Thirdly, we accepted a handgun in trade for a old motorcycle we were trying to sell This just sums up America.

@Screamanger your post says it all "oh the gun culture in America is fine, as I needed checks for 3 of the 8 guns I own" but hey I guess the NRA are standing up for "normal" Americans hey?

Thirdly, we accepted a handgun in trade for a old motorcycle we were trying to sell.

Well that’s Okies then.

Also the way every nut job can get round the background checks.

My state is exceptionally safe Not with you, your 8 guns x all your neighbours and their guns in it.

Rosehip10

All I was doing is outline my experience, of the system. not my viewpoint.

And just out of curiosity (and I’m actually getting cross with myself for taking the bait) but just how do you know that the gun you took as part payment hadn’t previously been used to hurt someone, rob a store, terrorise a woman as she was raped?

TSSDNCOP

No idea

Righto. I’m going with 🐄 💩 here. No one’s that much of a wanker.

Ok fair enough,

Until a large majority of ordinary Americans decide that the right to bear arms is not worth the death of hundreds of other ordinary Americans, these things will keep happening.

The remedy lies in gun control, and from what I can see, more people are opposed to that than are in favour.

To me, it's incomprehensible. And tragic.

America pinched Texas from Mexico so its hardly surprising that a few Mexicans are attached to it still.

The remedy lies in gun control, and from what I can see, more people are opposed to that than are in favour.

There's some data from Gallup here. It's pretty interesting. Americans have a complex relationship with guns and gun laws. They want gun laws to be stronger, but they don't want guns banned.

I've lived in the US for well over a decade now, and it still baffles me.

news.gallup.com/poll/1645/guns.aspx

um... American pinched California, Arizona & New Mexico from Mexico. Mexicans call it "The War of the Northern Invasion." Apparently until the 1930s, maps in Mexican classrooms showed those US states as occupied Mexican territory.

TEXAS, OTOH, fought a war of independence from Mexico, supported across multiple ethnic & social communities resident in Texas. After one year of independence, Texans allowed selves to be annexed by USA.