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To tell DH me and the DC are moving and it's his choice whether he comes?

333 replies

VizzyWoo · 28/07/2019 13:53

We live in a tiny village of around 15 houses, basically a small estate in the middle of a field surrounded by farms. The village has no services, not even a shop. We've lived here since the DC's (now 15 and 12) were a toddler and newborn. The nearest shop is in another larger village 2.4 miles away, which may not seem like far but it's a lot when you don't drive (I suffer chronic pain that makes it difficult to drive). There are times when DH has been at work and I've had to walk an hour there and back into the larger village to get some milk. So 2 hours for a pint of milk. There is technically a bus that goes to the larger village one way and the nearest town the other way, but it's every other hour (and only turns up 50% of the time so more like every few hours) and stops at 4pm.

The DC's go to school in a town 5.4 miles away and it was a nightmare to get them in, we weren't in the catchment area and they didn't believe that they were the closest school. All of the admissions folk hadn't heard of our village. Eventually we got them in. Naturally both kids wanted independence when starting secondary school. We tried to let them both use the bus service in Year 7 but on the several times they tried the bus never turned up. So DH drives them on the way to work which they hate. Because the bus back to the village stops at 4pm (and never turns up in between them finishing school and 4) they have to wait around outside school until 6 each night for DH to get off work and pick them up.

DD starts college next year and it is 7 miles away. Bus again is completely out of the question. I have no idea how we are going to manage it as it's off DH's work route and DS's school route. We've actually had her in tears because she feels her social life is being damaged living here. If it's Saturday evening and all her friends are meeting up in town, she can never attend as DH CBA taking her. Her friends all go to the gym together and she can't go, DH won't take her. Friends eventually stopped asking her. DS is only 12 but he's starting to want to go out but can't. It's also my social life, I can't go to meet friends for a coffee etc and I am very lonely.

I have wanted to move for years, but DH always says no. His reasoning is that it's quiet and safe here, there is no crime. And that being here keeps the DC out of trouble. He also calls it his "Lovely quiet retirement home" (he's late 50s, is retiring in a few years). DD massively resents him for this. We have had many an argument about it. Personally, I think he is selfish. He has his car and can piss off whenever he likes, and he does. He gets to go into a city for work and is always down the pub in the larger village etc. While me and the DC are literally prisoner at home going out of our minds. He says I'm stupid for wanting to move into the nearby town, and that I'll be giving up our "lovely safe home". I think it's ridiculous. The vast majority of people in the UK live in towns/cities/suburbia nowadays and get on fine!

Me and the kids are becoming very lonely and depressed and he doesn't care or doesn't realize. I'm tempted to join a house swapper site (social housing) without his permission, and if we get someone interested then I will pursue it and he can either come with us or piss off. His choice, but either way me and the DC GO. I think I have a good chance of getting a swap, I'm sure the village is desirable to some. I know me and the kids need to leave this village, it's suffocating us. DD has literally been breaking her heart about it, 15 and going stir crazy. It's awful. I feel like we're being kept on DH's bloody compound.

I love DH but the kids come first. I feel they aren't going to thrive here and are lonely, isolated and depressed. As am I. I feel I need to take control here.

OP posts:
VizzyWoo · 28/07/2019 16:10

@lyralalala

DD has no respect for him anymore. DS going the same way. DD has actually begged me to leave him before because "He cares about the house more than us." How bad must a sitation be for kids to want their parents to split? Sad

It is so tense in the house, because there is no escape for us 3 when we need a bit of space away from each other etc.

OP posts:
ClownTent · 28/07/2019 16:11

My mum didn't drive and my dad worked all the hours god sent, but he still managed to take me and my brother here, there and everywhere without moaning about it, because they made the decision to send us to a school two towns away, so all our friends were there. He also took me to two different stables at 7 and 7.30am on Saturday and Sunday and picked me up, and took my brother to football on a Sunday too.

I have been the only driver in a relationship (before DS) and it is a bit of a pain, but having children changes things and you either drive them about because they can't or you move!

Happynow001 · 28/07/2019 16:11

Good on you, OP, for sorting out DD's lift to the party.

I really am reaching the end of my tether. I still love him somewhat but he has become such a twat.
Are you sure you do love him even "somewhat" or is this just habit?

Do, please, speak to Shelter and/or your council before making any permanent move as there is the strong possibility your council will declare you've made yourself intentionally homeless. Take advice before you leave him (and you do need to as I very much doubt this is his only area of utter selfishness).

bellabasset · 28/07/2019 16:12

It sounds very difficult, I live in a village with a hourly bus service, but less at weekends. But we're near the main trainline.

The thing is you're not retired, you might want go to work part time so moving would give you independence as well as the dcs. As you get older access to medical care etc becomes more important.

aintnothinbutagstring · 28/07/2019 16:13

We live in a city centre, within a 15 minute walk of the main centre, I would recommend it! As much as I'm an introvert, so don't really like crowds, it's nice to be within walking distance of so many things. Particularly over the DC's childhood, we have been faithful users of the town's leisure centre for swimming lessons and another niche sport my DD does. DDs secondary will be a 15minute walk, what do your DC's do til 6pm waiting to be picked up? I'd not want my DC hanging around til that time. You don't even have to move to an urban area, there's lots of quiet suburban places with good transport links into town. And I'd prefer to retire in a city or town where you've got tons of pubs, restaurants, cinema, social groups going on.

IHateUncleJamie · 28/07/2019 16:14

@VizzyWoo if he’s so keen to keep the house “for retirement” - which in itself is not unreasonable - then what about renting it out via an agency until such time that it’s practical to live there again? That way he gets to keep the “dream retirement home” but you could all rent a much more practical home on the edge of or in town for now.

He cannot reasonably object to that. If he does, I think it’s time for an ultimatum.

73Sunglasslover · 28/07/2019 16:15

I think your DH has a choice to make - if it's his choice to stay there he needs to drive people around, pretty much as often as they want him to. If he's not prepared to do that he needs to move - or at the very least you do. I don't think you are being unreasonable unless you guys are wealthy enough to get cabs all the time in which case you could use that solution.

timeisnotaline · 28/07/2019 16:17

This time the twat can't use that threat as I can respond "In the courts eyes the DC are old enough to decide who they live with, and they are going to choose me because they both resent you for keeping them prisoner here just because it suits you."
Yep, you can make up your own mind and I know what I’d be doing.

HJWT · 28/07/2019 16:17

@lyralalala its not the council its the government! Never heard of bedroom tax? Doubt he would want to pay £100-£150 on top of rent!

Happynow001 · 28/07/2019 16:17

DD has actually begged me to leave him before because "He cares about the house more than us." How bad must a sitation be for kids to want their parents to split?
Ah. I crossed with your post saying this ^^.

Time to take action OP - for your children's sake even more than your own.

You put off leaving him before due to his threat of a custody battle but the situation has changed now.

Another thought - can you also see if you can talk to Citizens Advice about your situation?

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/ I'm copying the link so you can do some research online to see if they can help in any way.

I8toys · 28/07/2019 16:17

YANBU - you have done well to last this long.

CitadelsofScience · 28/07/2019 16:17

UncleJamie it's social housing. You're not allowed to sub-let or if you do and get caught, you risk eviction.

ThatCurlyGirl · 28/07/2019 16:19

Bloody hell the whole learn to drive thing...

I've got epilepsy - I can walk for two hours because if I have a seizure I will fall but I make sure I have someone with me who knows what to do.

However can't drive because if I have a seizure while I'm at the wheel I could kill myself, passengers, other drivers or pedestrians. At the very least I would crash the car because I would immediately have no control over it.

I drove for ten years then had a horrific car crash which resulted in brain damage and epilepsy. It's shit, I wish I could drive but it would be utterly irresponsible and selfish to. Not to mention I can't have a driving license because of it.

It's no different for OP. Unless you've had a bout of vertigo it might be hard to understand how suddenly it can come on and how totally all consuming it is - your body just cannot work, you wouldn't have time to pull over safely for example.

You can't adapt a car for a lot of conditions. I don't get what is hard to understand about that, the OP isn't saying it for a laugh or because she can't be arsed - she is not able to safely drive, it's that simple.

Sorry to rant on your thread OP but I feel defensive of you because I know what it's like! Thanks

CitadelsofScience · 28/07/2019 16:20

@HJWT that's not how bedroom tax works. If he's paying full rent then the bedroom tax wouldn't apply.

Pinktinker · 28/07/2019 16:21

YANBU, I never could or would have moved there in the first place. It sounds like you are in an abusive marriage and as though he’s purposely keeping you all locked in like prisoners so he can control you. That may sound melodramatic but it’s the fact he’s refusing to help you with lifts and refusing to move at all even though you’re clearly miserable.

On the plus side your eldest will hopefully be able to drive in the next couple of years but I’d put money on her going to a uni as far away as possible...

lyralalala · 28/07/2019 16:23

@HJWT He’s working and there’s been no mention of benefits so the bedroom tax doesn’t apply.

Then once he becomes a pensioner it won’t apply then either as they are exempt

IHateUncleJamie · 28/07/2019 16:23

UncleJamie it's social housing. You're not allowed to sub-let or if you do and get caught, you risk eviction.

Ah, my bad, sorry. I missed that bit.

Nothingcomesforfree · 28/07/2019 16:23

HJWT what are you on about. The “bedroom tax” is not extra rent!

It’s for people on benefits. They can only claim housing benefit on bedrooms they are entitled to. So a family of three wouldn’t get enough benefit to cover a four bed house.

If he already pays all the rent himself it will make no difference to him.

VizzyWoo · 28/07/2019 16:24

Need a few days first to talk to the DC's about moving (they will be absolutely bloody delighted) and work out a plan as to how I'm going to manage it. Then I'll tell DH.

He will 100% go mad but I am not going to let him talk and threaten me out of it this time.

I am going to say to him "It's us or the house. Either come with us or rot away here on your own. I am past caring. We're off."

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CTRL · 28/07/2019 16:24

I would have left YEARS ago !
Your ‘DH’ is selfish and has only been thinking about himself.

Why should you and your children sacrifice having a life and your happiness for him when he can’t even begin to concider his families feelings when they clearly aren’t happy.

I would join the house swap site, I would put in for a move to somewhere with a social scene and regardless weather his coming he can stay. And regardless weather his name is on the tenancy or not - I’m sure SURE you can move. May be slightly more tricky but at the end of the day if you guys split how can you be bound to living together ?

He can’t keep controlling you guys like this. How would he like it if the tables were turned.

YANBU - MOVE. ASAP

CTRL · 28/07/2019 16:25

And the village can’t be that ‘Safe’ if your sons bike was stolen a few weeks ago.

Your ‘DP’ is a knob

lyralalala · 28/07/2019 16:26

@VizzyWoo

DD has no respect for him anymore. DS going the same way. DD has actually begged me to leave him before because "He cares about the house more than us." How bad must a sitation be for kids to want their parents to split? sad

It is so tense in the house, because there is no escape for us 3 when we need a bit of space away from each other etc.

I don’t want to kick you when you are down OP, but you do realise that eventually your kids will start to question why you didn’t move? They’ll want to know why you allowed the situation to continue.

It won’t just be his relationship with your children that is destroyed it’ll be yours too.

Plus, how much are you going to show your DD that she should accept in her future relationships? And the behaviour being modelled for your DS?

He is a dick, and he clearly likes having you all isolated. However, you are also allowing this, and your kids will realise this at some point and they’ll want to know why.

They need someone to put them first.

VizzyWoo · 28/07/2019 16:28

If he does comply (and I win the lottery and become a unicorn while we're at it) then I'll join houseswappers.

If not then 100% me and DC's to my mum and sort out getting rehoused from there.

OP posts:
VizzyWoo · 28/07/2019 16:28

Because I cannot live like this any longer.

OP posts:
lyralalala · 28/07/2019 16:29

Need a few days first to talk to the DC's about moving (they will be absolutely bloody delighted) and work out a plan as to how I'm going to manage it. Then I'll tell DH.

Please don’t do that.

They are children. You need to work out the plan then tell them once it’s done.

They aren’t adults who should be part of the decision making process at this stage. They especially shouldn’t be told and then expected to keep it secret - that’s an unfair pressure.

Make the plan, then tell them all what is happening. Your husband is very controlling of you, if he’s abusive then the most dangerous time for you all is when he knows you are leaving. Be very careful.

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