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To tell DH me and the DC are moving and it's his choice whether he comes?

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VizzyWoo · 28/07/2019 13:53

We live in a tiny village of around 15 houses, basically a small estate in the middle of a field surrounded by farms. The village has no services, not even a shop. We've lived here since the DC's (now 15 and 12) were a toddler and newborn. The nearest shop is in another larger village 2.4 miles away, which may not seem like far but it's a lot when you don't drive (I suffer chronic pain that makes it difficult to drive). There are times when DH has been at work and I've had to walk an hour there and back into the larger village to get some milk. So 2 hours for a pint of milk. There is technically a bus that goes to the larger village one way and the nearest town the other way, but it's every other hour (and only turns up 50% of the time so more like every few hours) and stops at 4pm.

The DC's go to school in a town 5.4 miles away and it was a nightmare to get them in, we weren't in the catchment area and they didn't believe that they were the closest school. All of the admissions folk hadn't heard of our village. Eventually we got them in. Naturally both kids wanted independence when starting secondary school. We tried to let them both use the bus service in Year 7 but on the several times they tried the bus never turned up. So DH drives them on the way to work which they hate. Because the bus back to the village stops at 4pm (and never turns up in between them finishing school and 4) they have to wait around outside school until 6 each night for DH to get off work and pick them up.

DD starts college next year and it is 7 miles away. Bus again is completely out of the question. I have no idea how we are going to manage it as it's off DH's work route and DS's school route. We've actually had her in tears because she feels her social life is being damaged living here. If it's Saturday evening and all her friends are meeting up in town, she can never attend as DH CBA taking her. Her friends all go to the gym together and she can't go, DH won't take her. Friends eventually stopped asking her. DS is only 12 but he's starting to want to go out but can't. It's also my social life, I can't go to meet friends for a coffee etc and I am very lonely.

I have wanted to move for years, but DH always says no. His reasoning is that it's quiet and safe here, there is no crime. And that being here keeps the DC out of trouble. He also calls it his "Lovely quiet retirement home" (he's late 50s, is retiring in a few years). DD massively resents him for this. We have had many an argument about it. Personally, I think he is selfish. He has his car and can piss off whenever he likes, and he does. He gets to go into a city for work and is always down the pub in the larger village etc. While me and the DC are literally prisoner at home going out of our minds. He says I'm stupid for wanting to move into the nearby town, and that I'll be giving up our "lovely safe home". I think it's ridiculous. The vast majority of people in the UK live in towns/cities/suburbia nowadays and get on fine!

Me and the kids are becoming very lonely and depressed and he doesn't care or doesn't realize. I'm tempted to join a house swapper site (social housing) without his permission, and if we get someone interested then I will pursue it and he can either come with us or piss off. His choice, but either way me and the DC GO. I think I have a good chance of getting a swap, I'm sure the village is desirable to some. I know me and the kids need to leave this village, it's suffocating us. DD has literally been breaking her heart about it, 15 and going stir crazy. It's awful. I feel like we're being kept on DH's bloody compound.

I love DH but the kids come first. I feel they aren't going to thrive here and are lonely, isolated and depressed. As am I. I feel I need to take control here.

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StaplesCorner · 28/07/2019 14:41

It sounds like an abusive relationship when you think about it, he's coerced you into accepting this - it must have affected those poor kids all their young lives. Even if you start making arrangements to move now, with or without him, how will the DC manage in September?

What an utterly miserable existence for them both, what sort of a father does that?

Jaffacakebeast · 28/07/2019 14:42

Only 1 more year until dd can have a moped, 2 more years and she can drive, help with her db, I’d stay in the lovely village. Try other methods for pain relief so u can drive? Push bike? Moped

Nanny0gg · 28/07/2019 14:43

@Beautiful3
I think you should learn to drive, be proactive.

WHY don't people read the OP's posts??

Lobsterquadrille2 · 28/07/2019 14:43

The OP has explained why she cannot drive. I had a thread once where I had to explain over and over again that suspected epilepsy meant that I couldn't drive my DM around as I occasionally have seizures. Yet the replies kept coming that I must learn to drive ..... OP, you are not at all unreasonable and your situation sounds awfully isolating for all three of you.

Teachermaths · 28/07/2019 14:44

You walked for 2 hours but can't drive due to pain?!

You need to look into easier options for driving, automatic and modified cars might help.

Your feelings are completely valid. However you've done very little to change the situation. If you accept what you always have, you'll get what you've alway got.

You dh is a complete arse for refusing to drive the dc.

bobsyourauntie · 28/07/2019 14:45

OP, sever vertigo is a notifiable condition to the DVLA, so you are being sensible by not driving. You are also advised not to drive after an attack.

I think your only option for a more "normal" life is to move into a town. Rural living is a pain in the arse if you can't drive and don't have much support. Where I used to live the nearest shop was 3 miles away.

Whisky2014 · 28/07/2019 14:45

Right ok. She can't drive. If the buses aren't on their now showing up I'd be contacting the company to ask why not and for a resolution.
I'd get the kids bikes and or mopeds.
I'd make sure the fridge was stocked...

Cheeserton · 28/07/2019 14:46

Stop telling her to drive! That's already been done. She says she can't.

VizzyWoo · 28/07/2019 14:46

Great, it's starting again just now. DD's friend's all off to a birthday party later. DH doesn't want to take her because "I've been busy all week."

Going to have to intervene before an argument breaks out. DD resents her dad greatly. What an absolutely thrilling Summer my kids are going to have.

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bobsyourauntie · 28/07/2019 14:46

*severe

WhereYouLeftIt · 28/07/2019 14:46

I had vertigo for a bit, I was not safe to drive. I cannot believe how many people are telling you to learn when you put the reason in your OP Vizzy.

YANBU. And yes, if he refuses to move then he I would, as you plan to do, leave him and move in with family. From what you have written I think he will refuse.

Oysterbabe · 28/07/2019 14:47

I lived in a little village growing up and used to cycle for miles and miles, it was great.
I know you said you can't drive because of pain but surely if you can walk for 2 hours you can sit for 10 minutes?

bobsyourauntie · 28/07/2019 14:48

OP, your DH sounds like a selfish arse. I spend half my life running my 11yo around because I am a single parent and there is noone else to help out. I get that your DH wants some down time, but it wouldn't kill him to help your DD out, it's all part of having kids. DD could help by trying to arrange a lift home later so he doesn't have to go out again.

MarshmallowHeat · 28/07/2019 14:48

Yanbu I’d move.

Talk to a solicitor and a counsellor from now on, and actively plan it. He will block this every step of the way.

I live like this! It’s rubbish.

BuildBuildings · 28/07/2019 14:49

He's being really selfish. When I was in my teens my parents moved us to a semi rural location. Over a mile to a bus stop. Similar issues getting to school. Without wanting to be dramatic it really effected me and I do believe has contributed to my low self esteem and anxiety. Because I always felt a bother asking for lifts, but it was often my only option. I also had trouble settling in my new school because we lived so far away and couldn't socialise with other kids. Also it made me feel horrible that my feelings hadn't been considered and they wanted to live ther because it worked for them and fuck us. (me and sibling)

I'm telling you this because I can't emphasise enough how much these things will be effecting your kids. You seem to know this already. You have to do what is best for your children.

MarshmallowHeat · 28/07/2019 14:50

I wouldn’t intervene though anymore. It’s not your place to lessen the effects of his decisions. Don’t help. Let your kids see the reality.

WhereYouLeftIt · 28/07/2019 14:51

"DD resents her dad greatly."
No wonder! Has he even considered that he'll be in his 'lovely quiet retirement home' all alone? Because his children are very unlikely to want to visit the man who demonstrated so clearly throughout their childhood that he gave not one shit for their happiness. Does he even acknowledge that his selfishness is damaging his relationship with his children, possibly beyond all repair?

VizzyWoo · 28/07/2019 14:51

I do expect him to refuse, I tried this when DD started secondary school and he said he wasn't going to come and that if I did try and move with the kids (plan was to go to family member, file as having left him and get rehoused) it would become a bloody custody battle. It fizzled out eventually.

This time the twat can't use that threat as I can respond "In the courts eyes the DC are old enough to decide who they live with, and they are going to choose me because they both resent you for keeping them prisoner here just because it suits you."

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StaplesCorner · 28/07/2019 14:52

Use this argument as a catalyst. Insist he takes her, if he refuses, you need to make arrangements to get to the nearest town and see a solicitor/get housing advice to move either with or without him.

Don't let your DD down.

HollowTalk · 28/07/2019 14:53

If driving is painful then how are you able to walk so far?

You are living with a very, very selfish man. I wouldn't even give him the chance to go with you. Are both names on the tenancy?

I would start the new school year in a different place, OP, and without him.

StaplesCorner · 28/07/2019 14:53

plan was to go to family member, file as having left him and get rehoused - you have the beginnings of a good plan, get advice first though.

VizzyWoo · 28/07/2019 14:53

He'd lose his precious house whether he comes with us or not, as the council aren't going to let 1 man take up a 3 bed property.

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Longtalljosie · 28/07/2019 14:55

You walked for 2 hours but can't drive due to pain?!

Good God - the lack of understanding about chronic pain is dreadful. Even if it were not vertigo (which we now know it is) you drive and walk with your body in a totally different position. Surely it’s not beyond the wit of humankind to accept that one activity triggers more pain than another!

OP - you should be moving. If your DH is behaving like this - refusing to compromise or accept the rest of you have needs - I’d be thinking hard about the marriage.

Nothingcomesforfree · 28/07/2019 14:55

Yep get on a swap site pronto. They can take ages for genuine people to be interested.Ask your housing association if they have names of people wanting to swap- might be a smaller pool and move quicker.

I agree with scooters. Not ideal in rural places in the winter but it gives them confidence and freedom. Not as if they can even get a part time job.

ThatCurlyGirl · 28/07/2019 14:56

Blimey, he sounds like a massive arsehole. And I don't think that will change no matter where you live!

Refusing to consider moving but also refusing to compromise on things like taking DD to a party... either he wants the best of both worlds and doesn't realise it's totally selfish, or he does realise it's totally selfish and doesn't give a shit.

Either way OP he really does sound like a dick. I can't drive anymore either (epilepsy following brain damage in a car crash) and wouldn't expect to be ferried around by a partner who was a driver but would absolutely expect them to want me to live somewhere that didn't isolate me or make me feel trapped. You know, because I want a partner who loves me and is a teammate.

I'd leave the house and the husband.

Poor you OP, I get how isolating it is Thanks

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