Vegan drinking Whey (milk) Protein ... but refuses Vegan 'sausage' roll that was brushed with milk (out of habit) before baking

[MrsForgetful2]

Just wondered as 1 little sausage roll has caused a HUGE family upset :(

My stance is ... if he had not been using the whey product I would have backed him up 100%... as I have been preparing food for him respecting his 100% commitment.

He sees vegetarians as flawed for still eating eggs and dairy.

His argument is the Whey product he bought before turning vegan and was therefore a waste to throw away.

My argument is... he could have took the top layer of pastry off rather than upset his grandma...

I repeat that if he was not consuming WHEY I would not expect him to have even done that... but seems he's more keen on not wasting the money he spent on his whey.

Me, if I were vegan, I would not knowingly break from it

The way I see it if he eats ANY dairy he IS a VEGITARIAN

There’s no difference between the milk and if she’d just made regular pork sausage rolls. Should he eat those so as not to hurt her?

There is because whey protein is milk. He is still drinking milk. And it was milk on the sausage roll.

Theres a big difference between a product he is already eating and trying to get him to eat meat.

Having graduated from Uni this week ,He is about to leave home on Sunday...for a life 500 miles away. My husb and I are driving him there and as things stand will be a loooooong atmospheric journey.

He is sharing a flat with a friend who has been vegan for years and is who suggested he become vegan

My son was vegetarian 6months and then for past 6 weeks has been Vegan.

My husband says that son will get fed up of being vegan... I however do not think that... as I said before , I accept his choice

Teenager is insensitive to the adults in his life. This is not News.

my parents are vegetarian (son also quizzed them why they eat fish , eggs & milk during same visit he refused her ALDI VEGAN Sausage rolls...because as a vegetarian she brushed them with milk,

he then came home and within 2 hours was drinking his WHEY (Milk Protein) shake

hes 22 and just graduated physics masters degree

Teenager is insensitive to the adults in his life. This is not News.

He isnt a teenager. He has graduated uni.

He deliberately drinks his NON-vegan shakes.... that sums it up perfectly

Was your son polite when he declined the sausage roll? If so then your mum is probably over reacting if all she’s done is brush a frozen sausage roll with milk and put it in the oven.

Yes your son is being a little hypocritical but I’m a fairly new veggie and I have slipped up a few times by not checking labels etc. Does that mean I have to accept any and all non-veggie products made and given to me because they were just trying to be nice?

I’ve seen quite a few weird attitudes on here from people that feel just because they once saw someone eat a hot dog they can’t POSSIBLY be vegan and have lost the right ever to turn down food on vegan grounds again. Nobody’s perfect and no one has to eat anything they don’t want to, even if you made it for them, even if they’ve eaten it before, even if they asked for it then changed their minds.

yabu to police what another person is comfortable putting in their body. People are entitled to choose their own limits.

It was only a sausage roll, no idea why you're getting so worked up about him not eating it. Would you place any other adult's food choices?

Your parents are not vegetarian if they eat fish

the funny thing is I actually prefer the Linda McC sausages and the Aldi vegan Sausage rolls...

and I casually mentioned that to him, and his response was 'you should be a vegan'

I've also tried his vegan cheeses and hated them ... and love my eggs ... so i like the idea of having 'Veggie" meals which are healthy for me and maybe my 'meat free' meals over the years will add up to something significant regarding animal welfare/environment etc.

Ah, I misread. Thought it said he was almost starting Uni.

My kids know I would laugh at them if they tried to pull holier than thou attitude. It's too hot to get het up over stupidity of youth.

YABU and over invested in what other people eat. Noone should have to eat something to make someone else "happy". Noone's happiness should depend upon other people eating what they cook. It sounds like you have an unhealthy attitude to food IMO.

Does he know about alcohol yet? Lots of it isn't vegan.

...and HIM telling ME to buy what he dictates to make HIM happy is different?

when he said he was vegan i treated it like someone with a gluten intolerance... i never even applied his flora on bread using the knife that i had used for butter.

I cleared him a shelf in the fridge and the cupboard so he could stock up all he needed.

Most days he cooks his own food as he has been doing for 4 years at uni

I am NOT dictating what he eats.

All i am saying is how can a VEGAN drink WHEY PRODUCTS WILLINGLY? And then throw his toys out the pram when his grandma pointed out she had accidently brushed pastry with milk.
(she could have told him AFTER he ate it...or not at all...)

Yes your son is being a little hypocritical but I’m a fairly new veggie and I have slipped up a few times by not checking labels etc. Does that mean I have to accept any and all non-veggie products made and given to me because they were just trying to be nice

Not really the same. He chooses to consume the same product. Mill. He didnt slip up drinking his whey. He knows drinking that makes him vegetarian, not vegan.

And yes, he sounds really rude. Tell people that vegetarians are flawed and telling people they should be vegan.

yes hes told me about the alcohol ... thats good as he said last year he was worried about his drinking...

Thankyou ALL (yes...ALL) for your comments.

On sunday , when he leaves home to start his working life,
I will get my cupboard and fridge shelves back , but am scared that this rift between him and my parents may fester.

As i said before ... I was totally on his side initially regarding my mum being upset that he refused to eat a NON VEGAN food.. however I changed my opinion when I discovered he was still using WHEY.

My attitude then became, why didn't he just peel of the top layer of pastry?

@Hidingwhoiam yes I accept that’s not really an exact parallel to this case. It was more directed at those saying he can’t describe himself as a vegan at all because he drinks these protein shakes and doesn’t want to waste them. He clearly eats an almost entirely vegan diet with the exception of this one thing, how should he describe his diet to those who want to cook for him?

What's important here is how he handled the situation, not whether he ate the sausage roll or not. That's not the bit that should actually upset or anger anyone. Was he grateful to your mum for her efforts?

It sounds like you need to be pissed off with him for being rude to Grandma, not for choosing not to eat something non vegan.

What did he actually say when he 'threw his toys out of the pram'? He could politely say that he didn't want to eat something that had been made with milk and that would be fine. The only problem is if he was rude.

As an aside, I find it a little odd that you call your parents vegetarian when they eat fish and that seems fine, yet you are very keen to call your son a hypocrite for drinking a whey product when he calls himself vegan. At least he's aware that he isn't fully vegan yet.

@nails : he does see himself a fully vegan. his friend told him it was ok to use up the whey... me... if i were veagn...i would not be flip flopping- refusing a little milk glaze then drinking pint size whey shakes twice a day ...

aha ... over the years i have always used 'vegatarian' very lightly with my parents... but thats another story.

yes my son was rude (but he ofcourse believes he wasn't - and knowing him as I do, I believe that HE thinks he was not rude)

He came home from the visit very happy and oblivious to the feeling he hurt.

I then discussed this with him at length and his reaction toward me is why I posted this ... I am expected to see things from his perspective but he either refuses or is unable to do the same.

my parents are vegetarian (son also quizzed them why they eat fish

Sorry, OP, but your parents are pescatarian who are pretending to be vegetarian and your son is a vegetarian who is pretending to be vegan. It doesn’t matter WHY he’s taking the whey, he’s still not a vegan. You have a lot of confused people in your family. 😁

If everyone's still upset to the extent that a cat journey 24 hours later, when your son is leaving home to live 500 miles away, there something wrong that goes far beyond a sausage roll.

Why would you let this ruin your last day with DS, it wasn't even your sausage roll?

He should have been polite in his refusal, then everyone should have moved on.

Maybe he is just a very inconsistent vegan also known as a vegetarian 😂
And op _ your parents are inconsistent vegetarians also knows as pescatarians 😂
And also: gosh people. Such drama
Your mother shouldn't be so upset over him not eating something. And your son needs to stop being a hypocritic
And everyone should eat whatever they feel like eating. And not preach or judge. (Allright you can do that but only in your head haha)