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Vegan drinking Whey (milk) Protein ... but refuses Vegan 'sausage' roll that was brushed with milk (out of habit) before baking

60 replies

MrsForgetful2 · 25/07/2019 11:49

Just wondered as 1 little sausage roll has caused a HUGE family upset :(

My stance is ... if he had not been using the whey product I would have backed him up 100%... as I have been preparing food for him respecting his 100% commitment.

He sees vegetarians as flawed for still eating eggs and dairy.

His argument is the Whey product he bought before turning vegan and was therefore a waste to throw away.

My argument is... he could have took the top layer of pastry off rather than upset his grandma...

I repeat that if he was not consuming WHEY I would not expect him to have even done that... but seems he's more keen on not wasting the money he spent on his whey.

Me, if I were vegan, I would not knowingly break from it

The way I see it if he eats ANY dairy he IS a VEGITARIAN

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MitziK · 25/07/2019 11:52

The way I see it is that he's a FUCKING KNOB.

TalkToMeAboutSocialWorkPlease · 25/07/2019 11:52

Yes that's daft. If he had a freezer full of meat sausages he wouldn't have carried on eating them would he?

recrudescence · 25/07/2019 11:55

I don’t think it’s logical to continue to eat an animal product when you have committed to veganism just because it’s already been paid for so I agree the sausage roll thing makes no sense. Also bad to upset grandma - couldn’t he just have said he wasn’t hungry?

munemema · 25/07/2019 11:56

So he's a fairly recent convert?

Is he cooking any actual food for himself?

WiddlinDiddlin · 25/07/2019 12:07

So its not ok to waste the whey protein...

But its fine to waste the sausage roll?

He's being a knob.

Purplejay · 25/07/2019 12:23

He doesn’t have much of an argument while he is still having the whey protein. It is fine for him to use this up but that means he is a vegetarian who is transitioning to vegan.

Having said that, if he has told his family he is vegan they should respect that and remember he doesn’t want milk on his sausage roll!

Socksontheradiator · 25/07/2019 12:26

What @WiddlinDiddlin said!
He's being ridiculous.

Clutterbugsmum · 25/07/2019 12:32

So its not ok to waste the whey protein... Yes because would waste HIS money

But its fine to waste the sausage roll? Not HIS money there fore not HIS problem.

He's being a knob. This with bells on.

HappyPunky · 25/07/2019 12:34

He's not vegan.
If he doesn't want to eat the sausage rolls up to him but I wouldn't cater for him.
At most I'd separate default vegan food like hummus and crudités, fruit etc but expect him to sort himself out.

I'm veggie and don't expect people to put themselves out for me.

SagAloojah · 25/07/2019 12:38

He’s an attention seeking hypocrite. Why are you preparing food for him and does he reciprocate?

He is the complete opposite of the ‘relaxed vegan’ who posted a while back saying that she will eat the odd pasta dish with Parmesan cooked by friends or family so that food is not wasted / nothing special is made for her. No idea why she was attacked, she was lovely.

twoshedsjackson · 25/07/2019 12:40

If he's taking it that seriously, why didn't he consider passing on the whey protein to a fellow bodybuilder who is vegetarian but not vegan?(Slightly different, but a friend/colleague passed on some perfectly good stuff to the local foodbank when it became apparent that one of her DC had a food intolerance, so as not to be wasteful).
It sounds as if the family are doing their best to support him; rather than make a fuss, couldn't he have just said he wasn't hungry, as recrudescence suggested?
Would it be considered PA to make him a gift of a vegan cookbook?

littlepaddypaws · 25/07/2019 12:56

'sees veggies as flawed' this numpty gives vegans as bad name for being preachy. i've been veggie most of my life and do not eat meat or fish [unless unaware of contamination] but i sure as heck don't tell other people they are 'flawed' or wrong for eating meat.
how long has he been on the wanna be vegan thing and how old ?

kateandme · 25/07/2019 12:58

oh shit.my sister cooked for her friend this weekend and put milk brush(out of habit) on the vegan pie!should i tell her?

5foot5 · 25/07/2019 13:15

Bleugh why would anyone drink whey? I make yoghurt and, occasionally, curds and cheese and the whey looks very unappetizing and gets thrown away (a-whey!)

But YANBU, he sounds like an idiot

MrsForgetful2 · 25/07/2019 17:37

Thankyou ALL... will reply later as hate using phone to message!
I am relieved that I am not alone in this world of madness... thanks again xxx

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NailsNeedDoing · 25/07/2019 17:45

Why does anyone else get an opinion about what he chooses to eat or not eat?

You're talking about your argument and what you would do, it's irrelevant. Clearly this isn't about what you choose to do, it's about what someone else chooses to do, and having the right to choose what we've do or don't eat is pretty basic and not something people should be judged for.

MrsForgetful2 · 25/07/2019 21:39

my reply to that is this:

My son criticises others for not being vegan

He came home from uni and i have stocked up on loads of vegan friendly foods (Totally supported him in his choice). I didnt even use same utensils to prepare his food alongside ours. Made sure he had no trace of Dairy or Meat

He then refused to eat a VEGAN sausage roll that my mum had by habit brushed with milk.

I was still 100% on his side... untill I discovered he was still drinking WHEY PROTEIN SHAKES.

Someone in this thread mentioned how he could have said he was a VEGETARIAN 'TRANSITIONING' TO VEGAN ... and that is a PERFECT explanation for him using up stuff he has purchased pre-vegan.
And another quite rightly said would he have carrried on eating a stockpile of meat/sausages ...

My son is a HYPOCRITE who TELLS ME WHAT I SHOULD EAT (vegan)

It is NOT me telling him what to eat.

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00100001 · 25/07/2019 21:44

Ugh he's one if thise vegans
.... Not a vegan and fucking preachy....

What's tosser.

Ellisandra · 25/07/2019 21:51

I think there is a phrase - “pregan”? - for items bought before you turned vegan, than you use up rather than waste. Make up, I’ve heard it referred to. So it makes sense to me that he’s using up the whey protein.

I think he’s perfectly fine to eat that but say no to the sausage roll, politely.

Otherwise, you might as well say vegans can eat animal products provided by others. And when his whey protein is used up, would you say he should still eat against his beliefs to keep his grandma happy?

I have a vegan SD so believe me I feel your pain on it being mentioned All The Fucking Time.

But I think YABU to say he should eat the sausage roll - that was his choice to make, and I did one don’t find it incompatible with using up the whey protein.

Ellisandra · 25/07/2019 21:52

Oh and if your mother was upset at him not wanting the sausage roll, she needs to get a bloody grip!

JocastaJones · 25/07/2019 22:00

There's no logic to it. It's akin to religious belief. He will not eat the contaminated food. Of course the grandma is upset. She made it specially. People prepare food to show their love and it's been rejected. That hurts.

S1naidSucks · 25/07/2019 22:05

He’s a hypocrite and so is any tosser that claims to be a ‘relaxed vegan’. 🙄

Ellisandra · 25/07/2019 22:09

Hurt is when someone says “I don’t want your fucking sausage roll because you can’t cook and no-one has the balls to tell you”.

Not “I’m sorry, I can’t eat that because it has animal product on it”.

Grandma should just say “shit, it’s tricky this vegan thing - I’ll know for next time”.

And he should say “sorry, I really appreciate you trying”.

There’s no difference between the milk and if she’d just made regular pork sausage rolls. Should he eat those so as not to hurt her?

Grandma made a mistake, nothing for her to get hurt over.

If the son was impolite about it though,,I’ll roast him!

BigChocFrenzy · 25/07/2019 22:09

but when it comes to wasting shakes he bought with his own money, then that trumps his vegan beliefs Hmm ?

He's a hypocrite
and rude to his gran

Once he's finished his private stock of whey, then he can -politely - turn down the food his gran - accidentally - brushed with milk

She was trying to produce vegan food and slipped up
He deliberately drinks his NON-vegan shakes

Hidingwhoiam · 25/07/2019 22:10

He isnt vegan. He is vegetarian.

No need for the label of 'pregan' or any other label.

He is currently a vegetarian. So by his own standards he is flawed?