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To think this is unfair? (Work)

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MouthFullofGum · 24/07/2019 17:54

I hate my job. Want a new one but the area I want to go to I need training.

Thankfully I work for a large global company so was going to request shadowing/work experience etc

My manager has said I can have 1 hour every couple of weeks Hmm

I’ve worked there 3 years. I do more work than anyone (no bragging) and I thought companies were suppose to encourage growth and development

OP posts:
MouthFullofGum · 25/07/2019 22:07

She thinks that being busier means she should get what she wants regarding shadowing and has also said that she doesn't feel like she can progress if she doesn't get what she wants. If if that's not seeking a promotion then you know.

Busier? Never once did I say I was busier.

It just doesn’t take me the entire working day to do my allocated work. So I have two options

  • Pick up other people’s work (my manager would tell me too so I’m not being a martyr)
  • Do nothing

There is zero progression in that department so what the hell kind of promotion am I after exactly? Hmm

OP posts:
LolaSmiles · 26/07/2019 07:37

It just doesn’t take me the entire working day to do my allocated work. So I have two options

- Pick up other people’s work (my manager would tell me too so I’m not being a martyr)
- Do nothing

Or speak to your manager first because right now they haven't directed you to do it, ask if there's other things different to your current role that can develop your skills.

Or slow yourself down and don't pick up other people's work because getting through your work and sorting out other people's isn't the sort of thing that gets people moved sideways or upwards, if anything in my experience it's how people get trapped or stuck long term. If you're paid to get through your work, get through your work, keep an eye on training, secondments, look at what opportunities are going elsewhere.

If they do direct you to do it then that opens up another conversation about appropriate pay and progression, but also it raises the question about wasted resources if they're funding X number of posts to do a task but X number of posts isn't needed (but that's not your problem that's for the manager to manage properly).

There was a sense of 'its unfair, but i do so much more' running through your posts. It might not have been intended but it was there, combined with suggesting you can't progress if you don't get as much shadowing as you want.

Shadowing is time consuming for the people having others shadowing. It slows their productivity down. Often the shadowing is watching and asking questions, not trying to do the other job. It's good to have people shadow you and it's important, but it does affect your workload.

It's annoying and frustrating feeling stuck in a job, but I've shared a few lists of things that can be done to advance your career without taking the hard done to line. You catch more flies with honey, take the opportunity, use it to your advantage and keep your eyes open. You may during the shadowing want to speak to someone who manages the new department about prospects there.

Of course it depends on the nature of the job because if it's entry level or fairly generic office work then you may find that staff at that level are deemed replaceable, whereas roles that have a bit more specific training or skills attached to the employee may lead to more flexibility from the employer.

UserThenLotsOfNumbers · 26/07/2019 08:04

OP if you have spare time left over, can you do some online training courses such as what's on Lynda.com? Use the time to plan your exit strategy or look for other jobs?

VivienneHolt · 26/07/2019 08:16

Complaining that you can't progress because you haven't been given what you want is entitled.

You keep on trotting out this line, but it's a very slanted interpretation of this situation. OP isn't complaining because she didn't get what she want. She has simply identified that the 'opportunity' she has been given is a poor one which doesn't offer much by way of development. That doesn't mean she won't make the most of it. But she's honest and realistic enough to know that it's not going to take her very far in terms of development, and is quite reasonably frustrated by that.

I'm not going to carry on arguing about 'uppity' since we won't ever agree, but I think taking refuge in the dictionary instead of acknowledging the real-life context in which the word is used is telling.

LolaSmiles · 26/07/2019 08:17

UserThenLotsOfNumbers
OpenLearn also do some good courses

Or she could ask to be put through any industry specific training through work depending on her role.

missbattenburg · 26/07/2019 08:25

Personally I don't think it's unfair. I've worked with people who think any progression should be in the company's time and that they shouldn't have to give up anything themselves.

People who want several hours a week to shadow someone else but still want an hour for lunch and to leave bang on the dot leaving time. Who won't put any own time into reading up or learning.

To me that's not someone wo wants progression. That's someone who wants to get out of doing their job.

Progression should be a joint effort betwen employer and employee in so far as it is beneficial to both. Joint effort means you need to do more than just expect time off your job for someone else to show you how to do a dufferent one.

UserThenLotsOfNumbers · 26/07/2019 09:32

(Thanks Lola, I will check out Open Learn!)

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