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Ending a friendship - was I rash?

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StellaStreet · 24/07/2019 09:05

Hello,

I'm new here, and I'd appreciate others' perspective on a friendship (or whatever the heck it is) that I think I should end.

Last year, this amazing man entered my life. Smart, witty, and incredibly intelligent. We'd chat for hours, and pretty much from the get-go he started to share the secrets of his life, and what he thought of others. I thought it a bit odd that such a level of closeness would be achieved so soon, but overlooked it because of the sheer amount of attention he was giving me. I'm talking about hundreds of messages a day, pretty much through the entire day with only a few hours break in between. It was like a firehose of attention, praise, and flattery, and he'd laugh at even the most banal thing I'd say. It was becoming obvious I was the centre of his world, and that he'd placed me on a pedestal. It was also clear he had been stalking me on FB before we started chatting, and during this phase, he'd continue stalking, and not missing a chance to leave a comment on my posts. But then it started to change.

I noticed he'd then start talking about other women he was chatting with on dating websites. This was also around the time when he'd start making a few cutting remarks (disguised as just jokes), and I began to notice he'd start to brag about his accomplishments, especially in areas he knew I was insecure about. This prompted our first argument, as I reasoned that anybody with empathy - and who knew me as well as he did by then - wouldn't have boasted in such a way. I asked him to please stop doing so, followed by an explanation of why I was hurt. There then followed an outpouring of hurt and rage from him, that I should ever have doubted him, and it was significantly out of proportion with the nature of the argument. In the lead-up to this argument, I noticed I was getting drained of energy, increasingly anxious and depressed, and my work colleagues noticed a significant downturn in my mood from my otherwise happy, confident, cheerful self. I felt I was being crushed, but despite this, I felt desperate to get him back, because I suppose by now I was hooked on him. Throughout the friendship, he'd get quite intimate by giving me plenty of mental images to think about, and he certainly knows how attractive he is, and ditto his physique.

After a period of silence, we started chatting again, but it wasn't the same. The draining continued until a few weeks later another argument came out of the blue. By now I was pretty much a shell of my former self. I don't remember what prompted it, but again, I felt his rage was significantly out of proportion, as was the cruelty and paranoia. No matter what I tried to put my side across, he'd callously and coolly give a contemptuous answer back. I was then discarded.

A few months later, he made a media appearance, and naturally wanted his world to know about it. That included me. No apology, and no reference to how things had ended, though he did sound humble in his greeting. I decided to give him another chance.

It wasn't that long before I was being devalued and belittled again. Anything I had done, he'd find a way to prove or show that he'd done more of or is better at. He hardly missed an opportunity to do this, all while praising me, and considering ourselves to be equals. As time progressed, he'd find ways to belittle the things I enjoyed doing, implying I had little integrity in doing them - while he claims to have integrity and admire it in people, he's also quite a hypocrite. The harsh jokes increased, but when going over a topic I was insecure about, instead of stopping when I was becoming irritated, he carried on through, then complain harshly that I was too sensitive and defensive about it when I tried to get him to stop. Anyone with empathy - such as the rest of my friends - would know when to back off, or talk about it more sensitively.

I began to notice he was increasingly cruel, callous, and judgemental about how he talked about others. OK, I regret that I ended up doing a little of the same myself, but the scale of his callousness took my breath away. This is the part he doesn't allow anybody to see, I guess, except me, and it's vastly different to the sweet, charming, engaging, and happy persona he puts across to people. He travels a lot, and recently told me about how everyone he met liked him, and remarking how intelligent he is. It got to the point where it was bon-stop boasting, interspersed with mocking people he considered inferior to him - actually, he considers pretty much everybody to be inferior to him in most ways.

Again, I felt I was being crushed, and my mood had significantly dipped. He made one last hurtful remark to me after another period of boasting, at which point I ended our friendship. I don't know if there's anything to salvage, or if it would be worth it. We weren't romantic partners, BTW.

Part of me misses him, his intelligence, and our meaningful conversations. He's a remarkable man (he said the same about me plenty of times), but I wonder what was really going on behind it all. Was I too hasty in ending it, and should I have been less sensitive and defensive about things? I'd appreciate some feedback on this.

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Proseccoinamug · 24/07/2019 09:07

Run for the hills.

MatildaTheCat · 24/07/2019 09:08

You know the answer. Don’t look back.

DisplayPurposesOnly · 24/07/2019 09:09

No.

thetimekeeper · 24/07/2019 09:11

Www.freedomprogramme.co.uk

Might not have been a romantic relationship, but it still has all the hallmarks of classic abuse.

He basically love bombed you then dropped you to break your self esteem and make you dependent on him to make you feel good again after he made you feel shit about yourself.

Seriously, stay the hell away from him and go on the freedom programme or go to counselling or something to learn about healthy relationships and how decent people treat each other.

He is not a decent person. You weren't being sensitive or defensive, you were reacting normally to abusive behaviour. Abuse is about power and control, men like him thrive on feeling powerful, that they can control your emotions, and treat you like shit but still get you to jump when they click their fingers. They get off on it.

This was not a healthy friendship.

IAskTooManyQuestions · 24/07/2019 09:12

You were being groomed, for what, who knows. Run. Run and run some more. Block on all SM. Alter your name slightly too. Put in or remove an initial, make it difficult for him to re establish contact under an alias.

Pinktinker · 24/07/2019 09:12

Was this purely an online ‘relationship’?

Merryoldgoat · 24/07/2019 09:12

Jesus - that’s a long post which is essentially:

A man stalked me, pursued me, belittled me and left me feeling awful about myself and wasn’t at all sorry nor did he ever take responsibility for his actions.

You would be stupid to continue any contact with this man at all.

And hundreds of messages per day is not even in the vague vicinity of normal.

PuzzledObserver · 24/07/2019 09:13

Read your post back and imagine someone else had written it. What would you be telling them?

Good riddance.

Nanny0gg · 24/07/2019 09:15

What friendship?

It's not like one I've ever experienced

hazell42 · 24/07/2019 09:22

He is a textbook narcissist and could well be a psychopath.
He believes himself to he superior to just about everyone, especially you.
He can be charming, but it's an act designed to suck you in.
Your value to him is in your adoration of him which is why he goes ballistic if you question him.
But while he loves to be adored, he also despises you as weak for adoring him
because he adores no one.
Knowing this about him, which in your heart of hearts you do, because you have explained it to us, why would you want him in your life.
His initial love bombing of you was a ploy. You would have given him the elbow long ago if you didnt have the memory of that. Trust me when I tell you that that is not the real him. Dont waste your time trying to find that person again. He was never real to begin with

tobedtoMNandfart · 24/07/2019 09:22

Lovebomb. Devalue. Discard.

Classic narcissist.

Stay away.

Jamsangwich · 24/07/2019 09:24

He's shown you exactly who he is. You really don't need to doubt yourself.

Greeve · 24/07/2019 09:25

Firstly, anyone can write LOL. It doesn't mean they are really laughing.

It seems like you thought you and he have this special connection that superseded friendship and even relationships. Like you were the only ones who "got" each other and you could be your imperfect flawed selves without all the pretence. It seems like you thought he would eventually turn out to be your soul mate.

When he started talking about other women, you realised you were just a mate he really likes and has a lot of banter with but who he wouldn't consider a candidate for something romantically committed. Why? Because for him, it is only friendships which have that level of transparency. Stupidly, pretence and game playing are inherent in relationships so of course, he couldn't both be genuine as he has been and your boyfriend.

It makes sense to a lot of us that the person you are most transparent with would be the better candidate for a relationship but if you have learned how to have relationships from Hollywood movies, his way makes more sense.

ConkerGame · 24/07/2019 09:27

Run away! ASAP! Block and never contact him again!

StellaStreet · 24/07/2019 09:37

@merryoldgoat Apologies for the length, it's how things come out sometimes. I need to work on shortening what I write.

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StellaStreet · 24/07/2019 09:41

@pinktinker Yes, it was online only, though we have spoken. We've known of each other a little while before this, but not had anything to do with each other. I wasn't looking for romantic interest in him as it happens, and I was careful to not let that happen. Looking back, it's almost as if he was a manager/therapist, and I was one of his staff/patients.

Thanks all

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SuzieSunshine · 24/07/2019 09:43

This scared me tbh. It's obvious that you should leave him and the quicker the better - he sounds horrific.

herculepoirot2 · 24/07/2019 09:43

Of course not.

EscapeTheCastle · 24/07/2019 09:45

Don't ever, ever contact him again. He will try to contact you, so don't be tempted to reply.

Pinktinker · 24/07/2019 09:49

I had a situation like this with an online ‘fan’ if you life. Some middle aged guy, twice my age took a liking to my Twitter and then Instagram page. I was anonymous on both to an extent, neither had my surname or anything. He always liked and commented on every single thing I posted then eventually started sending me daily messages. I just tried to keep a distance but would be nice enough to reply. Anyway eventually I started to get creeped out by it because he started declaring his undying love for me Confused so I blocked him. He found my Dad on twitter and started messaging him! It was so fucking weird.

You really, really need to be careful online. Lots of crazies out there, I hope you haven’t given him any personal info such as address or full name.

CatInADoghouse · 24/07/2019 09:49

You've dont the right thing to end his abuse towards you. How could it be right to carry on letting him do this to you? This isn't a friendship in any way, shape or form. He chose you as his victim. Run as far away from him as possible!

QueenoftheBiscuitTin · 24/07/2019 09:49

Block and never look back.

CatInADoghouse · 24/07/2019 09:50

*done not don't!

FlamingoFlamenco · 24/07/2019 09:51

He sounds like a nasty piece of work.

You did exactly the right thing.

I hope you are feeling better and looking forward in your life - it will be awesome without him! Flowers

greenwaterbottle · 24/07/2019 09:51

Merry old goat has it

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