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Ending a friendship - was I rash?

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StellaStreet · 24/07/2019 09:05

Hello,

I'm new here, and I'd appreciate others' perspective on a friendship (or whatever the heck it is) that I think I should end.

Last year, this amazing man entered my life. Smart, witty, and incredibly intelligent. We'd chat for hours, and pretty much from the get-go he started to share the secrets of his life, and what he thought of others. I thought it a bit odd that such a level of closeness would be achieved so soon, but overlooked it because of the sheer amount of attention he was giving me. I'm talking about hundreds of messages a day, pretty much through the entire day with only a few hours break in between. It was like a firehose of attention, praise, and flattery, and he'd laugh at even the most banal thing I'd say. It was becoming obvious I was the centre of his world, and that he'd placed me on a pedestal. It was also clear he had been stalking me on FB before we started chatting, and during this phase, he'd continue stalking, and not missing a chance to leave a comment on my posts. But then it started to change.

I noticed he'd then start talking about other women he was chatting with on dating websites. This was also around the time when he'd start making a few cutting remarks (disguised as just jokes), and I began to notice he'd start to brag about his accomplishments, especially in areas he knew I was insecure about. This prompted our first argument, as I reasoned that anybody with empathy - and who knew me as well as he did by then - wouldn't have boasted in such a way. I asked him to please stop doing so, followed by an explanation of why I was hurt. There then followed an outpouring of hurt and rage from him, that I should ever have doubted him, and it was significantly out of proportion with the nature of the argument. In the lead-up to this argument, I noticed I was getting drained of energy, increasingly anxious and depressed, and my work colleagues noticed a significant downturn in my mood from my otherwise happy, confident, cheerful self. I felt I was being crushed, but despite this, I felt desperate to get him back, because I suppose by now I was hooked on him. Throughout the friendship, he'd get quite intimate by giving me plenty of mental images to think about, and he certainly knows how attractive he is, and ditto his physique.

After a period of silence, we started chatting again, but it wasn't the same. The draining continued until a few weeks later another argument came out of the blue. By now I was pretty much a shell of my former self. I don't remember what prompted it, but again, I felt his rage was significantly out of proportion, as was the cruelty and paranoia. No matter what I tried to put my side across, he'd callously and coolly give a contemptuous answer back. I was then discarded.

A few months later, he made a media appearance, and naturally wanted his world to know about it. That included me. No apology, and no reference to how things had ended, though he did sound humble in his greeting. I decided to give him another chance.

It wasn't that long before I was being devalued and belittled again. Anything I had done, he'd find a way to prove or show that he'd done more of or is better at. He hardly missed an opportunity to do this, all while praising me, and considering ourselves to be equals. As time progressed, he'd find ways to belittle the things I enjoyed doing, implying I had little integrity in doing them - while he claims to have integrity and admire it in people, he's also quite a hypocrite. The harsh jokes increased, but when going over a topic I was insecure about, instead of stopping when I was becoming irritated, he carried on through, then complain harshly that I was too sensitive and defensive about it when I tried to get him to stop. Anyone with empathy - such as the rest of my friends - would know when to back off, or talk about it more sensitively.

I began to notice he was increasingly cruel, callous, and judgemental about how he talked about others. OK, I regret that I ended up doing a little of the same myself, but the scale of his callousness took my breath away. This is the part he doesn't allow anybody to see, I guess, except me, and it's vastly different to the sweet, charming, engaging, and happy persona he puts across to people. He travels a lot, and recently told me about how everyone he met liked him, and remarking how intelligent he is. It got to the point where it was bon-stop boasting, interspersed with mocking people he considered inferior to him - actually, he considers pretty much everybody to be inferior to him in most ways.

Again, I felt I was being crushed, and my mood had significantly dipped. He made one last hurtful remark to me after another period of boasting, at which point I ended our friendship. I don't know if there's anything to salvage, or if it would be worth it. We weren't romantic partners, BTW.

Part of me misses him, his intelligence, and our meaningful conversations. He's a remarkable man (he said the same about me plenty of times), but I wonder what was really going on behind it all. Was I too hasty in ending it, and should I have been less sensitive and defensive about things? I'd appreciate some feedback on this.

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dontgobaconmyheart · 24/07/2019 09:51

He has got under your skin OP (as all abusers do) and your best be here is to focus on protecting yourself. You are pouring too much sentimentality on those 'meaningful' conversations, I bet he has them with all the women he talks to and they are wheeled out in the same way. It may be tough to come to terms with OP but you just know all the other women that give home time of day (and I bet they all have low self esteem) are 'remarkable as well'. There is a lot more significance in the fact that somebody who says they care for you and respect you repeatedly chooses to hurt you, insult you and degrade you. He might be smart but he's clearly not that smart if he has to rely on abuse and control tactics to keep women interested. His emotional intelligence is also clearly pretty non existent too, which is neither attractive or a safe bet for a 'friend'.

Dont do it OP, there are plenty of (legitimately) smart interesting people out there who don't need to make a huge performance out of it to get you to notice. He sounds embarrassing and isn't worthy of your misplaced adoration. The gap you are feeling cannot be filled by him. You don't miss 'him' you miss feeling special and the highs of his positive attention in the abuse cycle.

See friends, seek out counselling, remember that he really is not one of a kind, and he is most definitely not a friend to you. Friends uplift.

HotChocWithCream · 24/07/2019 09:53

He sounds dangerous.

Block him in every way possible.

Nearlyalmost50 · 24/07/2019 09:53

You wren't rash, he sounds really quite horrid. More to the point, it was affecting your mood and your ability to have energy to meet other nicer people. Don't go back there again.

Drum2018 · 24/07/2019 09:55

He's a remarkable man

No he's not. He's a creepy, narcissistic cunt. Do yourself a favour and block him completely. Do not give him any chance to contact you again. Build on your self esteem, even if you need counselling to do so.

urbanlife · 24/07/2019 10:02

Block him and do not talk to him again. He is a absolutely playing you. Stripping your confidence to enhance his. He will bring nothing but sheer misery.
You shared nothing of value, move on resolutely.

darthbreakz · 24/07/2019 10:09

Narc - block block block and don't let him near you again.

fruitbrewhaha · 24/07/2019 10:11

Blimey OP. Read it back to yourself.

This bloke is very strange, this is not a normal healthy relationship.

Block him from every platform.

wigglybluelines · 24/07/2019 10:24

He is a textbook narcissist and could well be a psychopath.

This. Please, do some research into narcissism. You'll recognise his character instantly, and it may help you put things into perspective.

You were definitely not rash, you were acting on your sound instincts. Please listen to them. This man is dangerous. Cut him out of your life completely. Don't ever try to explain or argue with him, he is incapable of understanding or empathising. He sees everything through the toxic prism of his narcissistic ego and he will never change.

81Byerley · 24/07/2019 10:24

Did you ever meet him in person? Block him everywhere. he sounds dangerous. He is definitely dangerous to your mental health.

Jemima232 · 24/07/2019 10:26

FFS this wasn't a friendship, OP.

Don't contact him again and be glad you haven't met IRL.

edwinbear · 24/07/2019 10:33

He is a textbook narcissist

This. You will get absolutely nothing from this friendship, block and move on.

ReanimatedSGB · 24/07/2019 10:33

Is he Boris Johnson?

isthatapugunicorn · 24/07/2019 10:35

At best he's massively insecure and takes that out on you... ditch him permanently...

thetimekeeper · 24/07/2019 10:38

You don't miss 'him' you miss feeling special and the highs of his positive attention in the abuse cycle.

See friends, seek out counselling, remember that he really is not one of a kind, and he is most definitely not a friend to you. Friends uplift.

Beautifully put.

ChicCroissant · 24/07/2019 10:45

You've never even met him OP. Just block him.

Daylily34 · 24/07/2019 10:53

OP you have no idea who this man is - no idea what he’s capable of - or who he might pretend to be next . Block him and be very careful about strangers you engage with in future online . You might even be best deleting all your social media profiles and starting again.

Ijustwanttoretire · 24/07/2019 10:54

Read your post back and imagine someone else had written it. What would you be telling them?

^ This

StCharlotte · 24/07/2019 11:03

Yes, it was online only, though we have spoken. We've known of each other a little while before this, but not had anything to do with each other.

So he's managed to do all this emotional damage and you haven't even met him??

Oh love, just block him and forget he ever happened.

Whosorrynow · 24/07/2019 11:11

Something allegorical to do with Boris Johnson?

StellaStreet · 24/07/2019 16:27

@stcharlotte

So he's managed to do all this emotional damage and you haven't even met him??

We knew of each other because of mutual acquaintances. Through them, he knew more about me than I knew about him.

He knew about narcissism because he claimed to have been the victim of it a few times, but now I've researched it a little, it seems clear I was being gaslighted (gaslit?) by the subtle put-downs, pokes, and constant one-upmanship. It's odd, though, for a narc to tell me the various things he'd said to and thought of the other people in his life he domineered over and ridiculed pretty harshly. You'd think he'd keep quietly about all that, in order not to show his hand.

I'll do some more research. Thanks all.

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flumposie · 24/07/2019 16:34

Block him. He sounds awful.

Jebuschristchocolatebar · 24/07/2019 16:38

Yes that’s all good but do you actually know if he is a real person or someone who claims to know someone you know? I deal all day with scammers and online fraud and this sounds like he was trying to groom you or engineer you into eventually doing something like giving him money. They can groom your for years

VivienneHolt · 24/07/2019 16:40

Honestly how can you even think it’s rash when over and over and over again he has treated you like shit? He’s had too many chances already! Be grateful your life is free of him now.

BMW6 · 24/07/2019 16:42

Good grief OP can you really not see what an awful, awful person he is and that you should have absolutely NOTHING to do with him?

It's as plain as the back of a bus.

mussolini9 · 24/07/2019 16:45

OP, for your own sanity please read this - www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000Q9J0RO/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1&tag=mumsnetforu03-21

Your man is a coercive controller who lovebombed you, is now enjoying demeaning you & getting a narcissistic thrill out of how much he can hurt you yet still keep you dangling.

Will you please do yourself another favour & accept that this is NOT your fault? You have been caught up in a horrible net. Don't let this arsehole isolate your from friends, family & colleagues.
Get rid of him. AND READ THE LUNDY BANCROFT BOOK!!!!!