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It's High Crimes and Misdemeanours Time! Trump thread no. 95

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Roussette · 23/07/2019 08:05

I thought it was about time I started a thread so here it is! Mueller time tomorrow...

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/21/mueller-report-trump-nadler-impeachment

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lionheart · 10/08/2019 15:43

The bots are blaming the Clintons, the Deep State, blah, blah, blah.

AcrossthePond55 · 10/08/2019 17:00

Well, no matter how it happened, unfortunately it looks as if he'll take his secrets to the grave. The case against him will be closed. And in the US, client confidentiality does NOT end with death so his attorneys are under no compunction to release their files on him. But then again, no one 'inherits' the confidentiality, so they are free to do if they want to, even over the objections of his family/beneficiaries although they could tie it up in court.

It looked to me as if his case was the first domino in the string of dominoes to fall. He's the one they had real evidence against. The rest of his powerful buddies will come down to 'he said, she said' without Epstein's testimony and evidence. The only other avenue that I can see is the civil suits going on by his victims and/or if Ghislaine Maxwell turns State's Evidence for immunity.

Wonder who is in line to inherit Epstein's estate anyway?

Roussette · 10/08/2019 19:17

Across I just wondered on this tweet bearing in mind your post...

Lisa Bloom
@LisaBloom
Predator Jeffrey Epstein killed himself. On behalf of the victims I represent, we would have preferred he lived to face justice.
Our civil cases can still proceed against his estate. Victims deserve to be made whole for the lifelong damage he caused. We’re just getting started.

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lionheart · 10/08/2019 21:36

SDNY:

www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/statement-manhattan-us-attorney-death-defendant-jeffrey-epstein

'Statement Of Manhattan U.S. Attorney On The Death Of Defendant Jeffrey Epstein

Manhattan U.S. Attorney Geoffrey S. Berman said: “Earlier this morning, the Manhattan Correctional Center confirmed that Jeffrey Epstein, who faced charges brought by this Office of engaging in the sex trafficking of minors, had been found unresponsive in his cell and was pronounced dead shortly thereafter of an apparent suicide. Today’s events are disturbing, and we are deeply aware of their potential to present yet another hurdle to giving Epstein’s many victims their day in Court. To those brave young women who have already come forward and to the many others who have yet to do so, let me reiterate that we remain committed to standing for you, and our investigation of the conduct charged in the Indictment – which included a conspiracy count – remains ongoing.

We continue to urge anyone who feels they may be a victim or have information related to the conduct in this case to please contact 1-800- CALL FBI.”'

lionheart · 11/08/2019 13:04

This pulls no punches.

www.thecut.com/2019/08/trump-baby-photo-el-paso-shooting.html

'Posing for this photograph, the Trumps remove any last doubt about their dead-eyed cruelty and transactional view of life. Smiling emptily above this wounded little boy, whose life was shattered before he could take his first step, the president and his wife call to mind those famous safari photos taken by Trump’s sons, Eric and Don Jr. — in which they, like their father, smile brightly over the victims of their own heedless cruelty and violence. To Donald Trump, this baby is little more than a hunting trophy in his own brutal race war (which explains his triumphant thumbs up).'

Whosorrynow · 11/08/2019 13:23

That is exactly what I thought, the baby is displayed as if it were a hunting trophy, or a prize farm animal in a competition
this is not how normal people would respond to a baby who had been orphaned in a horrific massacre
This baby to them is just the spoils of war

Whosorrynow · 11/08/2019 17:37

Seems Trump has a big incentive to deflect attention away from his part in all the lolita fun
www.politico.com/f/?id=00000158-267d-dda3-afd8-b67d3bc00000

cozietoesie · 11/08/2019 20:01

You said it. Smile

cozietoesie · 11/08/2019 21:36

A special Sunday treat for you all. I was looking for this on Netflix and discovered that it's now on YouTube.

cozietoesie · 11/08/2019 21:38

Warning.

This version has the murder of the children in it.

TheClaws · 12/08/2019 01:47

Hmm. A stretch here from Lara Lea Trump and the GOP, and zero points for trying.

GOP @GOP
“I do think when you hear time after time these slip-ups from [Biden]…I think that would give people a lot of pause in voting for him for President.” -
@LaraLeaTrump

TheClaws · 12/08/2019 01:57

The WH has reportedly drafted an Executive Order putting the FCC in charge of monitoring social media. This is on the heels of a ‘thinktank’ of conservative social media identities at the WH last month.

techcrunch.com/2019/08/09/reports-say-white-house-has-drafted-an-order-putting-the-fcc-in-charge-of-monitoring-social-media/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

lionheart · 12/08/2019 01:58

I watched the clip but avoided the entire thing for that reason, cozie.

Sad
Whosorrynow · 12/08/2019 11:59

I'm wondering if anyone is familiar with Tom Joseph?
mobile.twitter.com/TomJChicago
Apologies if I'm repeating things that have already been posted, (i got this from the thread on Jeffrey Epstein) Tom seems convinced that trump has dementia and from his website he seems to have a very in-depth view and relevant experience
I suppose everyone around him knows that he's declining cognitively and they just keep him there because he's a useful idiot?

lionheart · 12/08/2019 13:15

No, I haven't -- it's interesting.

I've come across Dr Jack Brown before (he's mentioned on the thread and does the body language interpretation).

Roussette · 12/08/2019 16:15

This is interesting and if true, very suspicious

www.rawstory.com/2019/08/bill-barr-allegedly-made-secret-visit-to-jail-before-epsteins-death-when-does-that-happen/#.XVFy1bzbKRk.twitter

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PerkingFaintly · 12/08/2019 16:23

Epstein's death is going to be the new Who Shot JFK conspiracy.

So many people with a vested interest, so many possible routes to get at him (inc if he did it himself but was encouraged), so little trust in any testimony given by anyone in this story.

I thought this immediately I heard of it. Now anyone can make up any story they want, and project it onto Epstein, especially regarding his death. It will be a very murky cesspit, with very little light shone.

I just really hope the women who were assaulted have their voices heard, and get some measure of justice.