I am terrified of the climate emergency but more terrified by how ambivalent others seem to be about it!

[CopperPatch]

Just that really, I see people sharing things on social media, commenting on threads, talking about climate change etc but actually changing their lives very, very little - or finding ways to justify not taking action.... it is not scaremongering, it is not a fear project, our planet will no longer sustain human life because of us but so, so many people seem to not care, or only care on a surface level - great click bait but changing their lives in any way seems a step to far. Yes we need wide-scale political and economic shifts but we also need every day action from every day people - and that is EVERYONE'S responsibility!!!! AIBU to expect more of everyone?!

I don’t want it to stop because the quicker humans are wiped out the quicker the planet can recover without us

WHAT!!!? Climate change is far worse for other species that it is for humans!! It’s led to the extinction of 60% of animal species in just 70 years! If you care about wildlife/mammals you should be doing everything you can to stop climate change.

Once those species are gone they are gone for good. They won’t “recover” once humans are gone. Animals are much more vulnerable. A chimpanzee can’t hop on a plane or migrate to another country.

Anyone with 3 or more children can tell you how judged they feel

Anyone with no children or one child can also tell you have judged they are as well. We’re all judged unless we have the perfect set.

Thefastandthecurious...animals aren't famously nice to each other either. That beautiful tiger will butcher a gazelle. The magnificent orca will kill a seal. However,, theh only take what they need unlike the greed of man.

Sorry for the typos...

At least those two aren’t making the problem worse

But they are.

Unless a couple kills themselves on the birth of their second child.

(Not suggesting they should, or anything, but given there’s often a 40/50 year overlap between children being born, and their parents dying, the argument that having two children balances everything out is moot).

Really? You should be much more afraid of chemtrails and 5G!

Really? You should be much more afraid of chemtrails and 5G! Conspiracy theorists have appeared

Conspiracy theorists have appeared hmm

Haha are you joking? Anyone who has done 5 minutes of research on EMF’s knows the dangers of 5G.

I'm more concerned with deforestation and the polar ice caps being 20 degrees above normal

I'm more concerned with deforestation and the polar ice caps being 20 degrees above normal

EMF’s are ridiculously harmful. For now EMF radiation is doing more damage to you than climate change. CC will cause more harm in the future.

EMF’s are ridiculously harmful. For now EMF radiation is doing more damage to you than climate change. CC will cause more harm in the future.

^This. Well we agree on something!

Most people are sleep walking where 5G is concerned.

EMF’s are ridiculously harmful. For now EMF radiation is doing more damage to you than climate change. CC will cause more harm in the future. Oh what a load of old tosh. High intensity microwave would be dangerous if you stuck your head in a radar station but the rest is very low energy.

I recycle all the milk bottles I have. China opens a new coal-fired power station every fortnight. Anything I do is a drop in the ocean compared with that.

Stop hating the west, start believing in the right of the west to depose the despotic Communist regime of China.

I read a book called 'The Overstory' this week and it makes climate change so utterly simple to see and fix.

Oh well, if it's all so utterly simple, so simple it's in a fiction book, why don't we do it then? Common sense would say "Because it's not so simple"; a conspiracy theorist says because big greedy people have too much to lose. GROW UP.

I’ll tell you what I find terrifying

Extinction Rebellion, part of a hard left Marxist group RiseUp! Who’s stated aim, which you can see on their own website, is to install full communism in the U.K. by causing as much disruption and mayhem as possible. Similar to how the co-founder of Greenpeace stared that his former scientifically based movement had been hijacked by anarchists and anti capitalists and had shunned the scientific method completely

People thinking that we are to blame for a rising temperature which has been climbing since the end of the ice age long before you had your wood burner or the industrialisation of the last 150 years

People with zero clue about how far the U.K. has come in terms of recycling, energy efficiency and awareness / reduction of emissions vs the rest of the world

People with zero clue how tiny the U.K. is in terms of these things in the global scale compared to behemoths like China, USA and Russia. Look for some numbers you’re wasting your time in the UK

The fact that there is a fast growing scientific consensus against man made climate change but billions and maybe trillions are being blindly spent on pointless and meaningless things like manufacturing ‘clean’ devices and power that actually have long complex supply chains that cause massive pollution

The fact that despite us not being able to accurately forecast the weather or deal with a bit of snow, or the fact that the last few Glastonbury’s have been sunny, that maybe this isn’t a fast accelerating trend influenced by mankind

That people are commenting on how terrified they are about something that may well or probably isn’t happening maybe because they are foolish, ignorant, or missing something meaningful in their lives, like how young men liked to travel to football matches to fight in the 1980’s.

The hypocrisy of people using rechargeable cars, phones, laptops to drive around in and post this utter drivel online when the IT industry is responsible for more CO2 than all of Germany and the minerals used to make devices have some of the worst and most disguising pollution and human exploitation in their supply chains on the planet, google lithium and cobalt mining

Get a grip.

Stop hating the west, start believing in the right of the west to depose the despotic Communist regime of China

This ..... is not going to happen. Sorry!

Who the heck suggested banning central heating - saying it was a new concept!

The Romans had forms of central heating, heating water and letting it flow through channels in the floors to heat buildings. Hardly going to meet modern Health and Safety but not a 'modern concept'. Inbetween the H&S lobby and moderning enclosed systems houses and other buildings had coal fires in every room.

Who the heck suggested banning central heating - saying it was a new concept!

The Romans had forms of central heating, heating water and letting it flow through channels in the floors to heat buildings. Hardly going to meet modern Health and Safety but not a 'modern concept'. Inbetween the H&S lobby and moderning enclosed systems houses and other buildings had coal fires in every room.

Exactly! There's not a human civilisation that hasn't sought to keep warm. Chopping down wood to burn wasn't exactly efficient, either.

You won't stop people from having children as it's a strong biological urge, like sex or hunger
But religious beliefs come into this, that's man made ideas. And Trump is reducing funding of birth control in third world countries thanks to keeping the believers of these religions happy.
We need to go back to the 1950 where people walked and cycled a lot, or used buses, and didn't have much in the way of central heating. We could used internet access so that people worked from home.

We need to go back to the 1950 where people walked and cycled a lot, or used buses, and didn't have much in the way of central heating

Ridiculous. A lot of those people suffered without adequate heating. I grew up in a victorian council house in the 70s, with no central heating. We relied on the gas cannister. I remember the cold. I was asthmatic and used to sit as close to the fire as I could. When it was really cold we got into our parents beds.

I have hypothyroidism and as much as I detest the heat the cold can leave me feeling very ill. Elderly and vulnerable people die because they are afraid to turn the heating on.

Things like this - don't get me wrong I'm sure relatively well and strong people will be able to manage cutting back - make me switch off.

People with zero clue how tiny the U.K. is in terms of these things in the global scale compared to behemoths like China, USA and Russia. Look for some numbers you’re wasting your time in the UK

My most fervent wish for eco-disaster deniers is that they'd stop bleating on about China.

We buy their stuff, we create the demand, we drive the process. We are China.

Neither are you the only person on the thread who knows that the UK has set ambitious carbon goals.

I sort of agree with you about climate change only inasmuch as I think there are other issues that are less ambiguously disastrous e.g. deforestation, biodiversity, plastics/ocean, agribusiness and so on, but I doubt this is actually the point you're trying to make here.

less ambiguously disastrous

Bad turn of phrase

Straightforwardly disastrous

“We are China”

Ludicrous. What percentage of China’s production do you think goes the the U.K., a country with less than 1 percent of the global population, compared to China, that has 20%. Like China has no domestic market. Idiotic comment.

I am terrified that we, as individuals, cannot do much anything about it. Cannot stop logging, mining, building... Especially in places like China.
And all that virtue signalling about going vegan and not travelling is also very unhelpful.