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To wonder how one would go about abolishing private schools?

466 replies

Chuffin · 19/07/2019 16:41

If anyone is following the @abolisheton campaign, they state their aim is to integrate private schools into the public sector and hope this to be included in Labours next manifesto.

My children are about to start independent school, having had a terrible time for a whole host of reasons in their state primary.

Aside from the moral argument for or against private schools, I am very interested in whether it would be legally possible to abolish private schools and how this would happen? Would this even be feasible realistically?

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BertrandRussell · 21/07/2019 18:42

Have you read the Labour Manifesto?

CendrillonSings · 21/07/2019 18:56

Have you read the Labour Manifesto?

Since the manifesto for the next election hasn't been written yet, no I haven't, and nor have you!

Just because these policies are backed by a good number of tory MPs and lots of voters.

The last Labour leader is championing this campaign. If the Tories put David Cameron or John Major front and centre on a campaign to shut down comprehensives and send the kids to work at 13, wouldn't that look like a declaration of intent to you?

sionnachbeag · 21/07/2019 19:01

This isn't a party campaign, its a small group backed by a few MPs. As I said, your attempts to make this seem like party policy are laughable

Political analaysis worthy of 4chan tbh

CendrillonSings · 21/07/2019 19:06

OK - so if and when it becomes party policy, will you denounce it? Or embrace it? Will I be allowed to worry then, o political oracle?

sionnachbeag · 21/07/2019 19:15

I would say the same thing i have here all along.

Wealthy parents will continue to buy privilege for their kids that will give them advantages over others. The only way to combat this is to increase funding for state education, to level the playing field as much as possible.

However, at the moment it isn't and your inaccurate criticisms of Labour are vacuous.

CendrillonSings · 21/07/2019 19:17

The only thing vacuous is your inability to answer the question.

sionnachbeag · 21/07/2019 19:20

I did answer the question, sorry that you don't understand it.

Its interesting that the pro private school folk on this thread seem to be the most lacking.

funnylittlefloozie · 21/07/2019 19:21

Not a chance. Drain the dreadful jumped-up "Marbella and Range Rover" parents off to the local "private school", full of dim rich kids, and get them out of my hair. Let the state get on with educating those who actually could benefit from it.

BertrandRussell · 21/07/2019 19:38

“Since the manifesto for the next election hasn't been written yet, no I haven't, and nor have you!”

I know. But someone said that Labour policies are full of the words “confiscate” and “ban” and I assumed that she must be talking about the 2017 manifesto......

TryingAndFailing39 · 21/07/2019 19:41

Drain the dreadful jumped-up "Marbella and Range Rover" parents off to the local "private school", full of dim rich kids, and get them out of my hair.

Nice. Nothing insulting and generalising children in a debate!

TryingAndFailing39 · 21/07/2019 19:46

want us all to be down in the gutter

Just as unnecessary as the dim rich kids comment.
Whatever people think of the school system, insulting children is low!
I have 2 in private schools and 1 in state. All happy with their schools and I am happy with them too.
I’ve worked in state and private. Currently private but would go back to state - I moved because of a specific job which doesn’t come up very often.

LesLavandes · 21/07/2019 19:48

Dim rich.... oh. Do you have a chip on your shoulder? 😮

BertrandRussell · 21/07/2019 19:55

“Drain the dreadful jumped-up "Marbella and Range Rover" parents off to the local "private school", full of dim rich kids, and get them out of my hair”

Ugh. What an unpleasant comment.

mainstreet · 21/07/2019 19:59

Since nothing short of the total eradication of all selective schools has been a staple of Labour party ideology since 1964 (apart from a period between 1997-2010 when only being elected was the aim of the Labour party, though even then they did their best to deny working class children access to a selective education)

It is not a earth shattering suggestion to suggest that the most leftist group of ideologues won't think that's a good policy However,
to lose another 1 million votes)

This along the lines of
First they came for the Private Schools (i was not bothered because my children go to the comprehensive)
Then they went for those living in 5 bedroom houses (i only rented so was not bothered
Finally they took my life savings of £20k to give to the poor !

Cinammoncake · 21/07/2019 20:00

I wish labour wouldn't entertain nonsense like this. I fucking despair. It just hands the vote to the tories over what? Political posturing? The tories have made a complete mess of brexit. Labour should have been poised to jump on it. But nope. They are still running in circles spouting crap like this that alienates even more moderate voters. Why not have solid proposals that address big issues not fucking this. Current Labor is a just so inept.

Completely agree. Labour's dire performance has allowed the Tories to go so extreme to the right. Any even half decent opposition should have countered them. I reckon Labour have totally had it and the LibDems will overtake them. It feels like they have gone beyond help now.

sionnachbeag · 21/07/2019 20:03

Utter drivel that post.

The neimoller reference is actually quite sickening.

Since 1964 ablur have been in power for a total of about 28 years and it never happened .

BertrandRussell · 21/07/2019 20:05

“First they came for the Private Schools (i was not bothered because my children go to the comprehensive)
Then they went for those living in 5 bedroom houses (i only rented so was not bothered
Finally they took my life savings of £20k to give to the poor”

Fuck me, that’s offensive!

Knittedjimmychoos · 21/07/2019 20:06

Sion I don't think they are lacking at all. However my own grammar is poor and that is laid squarely at the door of my utterly shit state school that let me get to age 10 without the basics.
I was never able to catch up.
So if I'm lacking, maybe that's why and why I'm pro choice

mainstreet · 21/07/2019 20:11

If they took someones life savings , they would become poor themselves !!

Knittedjimmychoos · 21/07/2019 20:12

Offensive, really?
How strange, we clearly have different goal posts on what we find 'offensive' 😕.

Is the refences to close to home, this abject passion for the socialists but the uneasy back of the mind worry about the deep vein of anti sematism running through the labour party right now?

sionnachbeag · 21/07/2019 20:19

Its offensive, it draws comparison with Nazi policies.

There are issues in the Labour party eith antisemitism but no more than others. I mean Labour aren't allied with parties that have antisemitic views and policies in the EU parliament, nor do their leaders meet with Steve Bannon, or cite cultural marxism or any other events But hey, its ok when tories do it.

Like deporting people who were here legally.

mainstreet · 21/07/2019 20:26

Before i am taken of the air !

No it compares Labour policy to that of Communism !

BertrandRussell · 21/07/2019 20:28

Anyone who thinks drawing a parallel between somebody nor being able to send their child to private school and sending people to concentration camps is not offensive needs, as my mother would have said, to “go and have a little chat with thenselves”

sionnachbeag · 21/07/2019 20:30

It doesn't compare it to communism, cause Niemoller wrote it about the Nazis.

Your education wasn't very good.

mainstreet · 21/07/2019 20:33

Point taken .