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AIBU to find this fascinating? 4-Year-Old Australian Boy Claims to be Reincarnation of Princess Diana

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OneWorld · 18/07/2019 19:58

I really want this to be true, but I feel for the boy! All sorts of problems this kind of thing can cause for him!

www.thesun.co.uk/news/9517414/boy-claims-he-is-princess-diana/

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Isatis · 19/07/2019 01:16

Its a fact that even after death memory cannot be destroyed so it has to go somewhere.

No, it really isn't a fact.

Aaarrgghhh · 19/07/2019 01:21

I wouldn’t get my hopes up that it is real. Kids are good at absorbing information and we don’t realise how often they are actually listening. For a long time when I was younger I would tell other kids that I lived in a caravan, I was convinced about this. I asked my mum about the time we lived in a caravan and she said that we never have. I think I argued with her a bit and was convinced we did. It’s quite funny thinking about how serious I took it. I was about seven I think.

TuesdaySunshine · 19/07/2019 01:21

I don't really agree with pretzel's definitive analysis of why small children often speak in terms of remembering a previous life, and neither do I pretend to understand it as a phenomenon, but I do know that it's a recognised developmental stage that seems to occur in all cultures and social groups, and sometimes involves things that almost certainly could not be learned from their own environment (e.g. languages no one at home speaks in communities that don't have electricity, still less TVs). Having had a child who spoke in quite clear terms about his 'before life' (not famous or moneyspinning, sadly) I can also tell you that it's a whole lot harder to dismiss when you hear it with your own ears.

I do believe in reincarnation, but only in the sense that Brian Cox believes in it - i.e. in the sense of the entire universe and everything in it being constructed from the same matter that is endlessly constituted and reconstituted into trees, animals, diamonds, sludge on the sea bed, bananas, people, etc. I suppose hypothetically, if a larger than usual amount of matter found itself by great coincidence sequentially reused in first one person and then, later, in another, it might account for past life memories like this, but...I don't know, I don't know. It's a fascinating phenomenon though, to be sure.

SummerPlace · 19/07/2019 01:31

@EnthusiasmIsDisturbed Still I’m sure his parents are living the media attention and already spending the money they see coming their way
I haven't read the full thread yet, so I don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but David Campbell, the father, is extremely well known in Australia and is a very successful cabaret/stage performer and TV presenter. I don't think this will really do much to raise his profile or garner him additional media attention.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Campbell_(singer)

His father is Jimmy Barnes from Cold Chisel. I have no idea how successful Cold Chisel is outside Australia, but here they are an iconic band.

Tavannach · 19/07/2019 01:36

Since when was a unicorn the national animal of Scotland?

The unicorn was first used on the Scottish royal coat of arms by William I in the 12th century.

Birdie6 · 19/07/2019 01:39

His father is a B list singer, being interviewed by a tabloid-type magazine. I feel sorry for the child, being used like this by his father.

Koalablue · 19/07/2019 03:52

I wonder if his Dad or Grandad have an album coming up to sell. Grin

User8888888 · 19/07/2019 04:06

Young kids have incredible imaginations and pick up so much. My 3 year old currently has an imaginary friend and it is amazing to see how absorbed she is in her play and make believe world. The parents shouldn’t be peddling their 4 year old around (or giving the child ideas!).

MarieFromStTropez · 19/07/2019 04:17

@Titsywoo My DS did similar. He kept recounting tales of things he'd done and when we questioned him about them, he'd always say, "it was before I met you guys" Grin. He just had a very fertile imagination.

SummerPlace · 19/07/2019 05:44

@Koalablue I wonder if his Dad or Grandad have an album coming up to sell.
Cynical, but perhaps accurate.

The movie of Jimmy Barnes' autobiography was released last year, so maybe this is timed to help with sales of the DVD (for Fathers' Day or something). Both have recent album releases, I think.

On the other hand, David Campbell seems to write a lifestyle column for the (Australian) Daily or Sunday Telegraph - I don't know which and can't see it as you need to be a subscriber - and apparently that is where it originated. So maybe it was just a puff piece or tongue-in-cheek filler that he wrote and the story has taken on a life of its own.

overnightangel · 19/07/2019 06:24

I love reading stuff like this, although it’s undoubtedly utter bollocks

Funny how these people are always a nazi pilot or a member of the royal family or Anne Frank or Alexander the Great, not Trevor who worked in the spar in Bognor Regis, or Val who ran a B&B in Burnley and went dogging every Friday night

onemorecupofcoffeefortheroad · 19/07/2019 07:40

Funny how these people are always a nazi pilot or a member of the royal family or Anne Frank or Alexander the Great, not Trevor who worked in the spar in Bognor Regis

That isn't actually true - have you watched The Boy from Barra? Whatever you believe it is quite a remarkable story - a boy in Scotland who believed he was the reincarnation of a boy who lived on the remote island of Barra in the Outer Hebrides. They found the house he had lived in and the details between what he remembered and couldn't ever have consciously known and what they found there were astonishing. There are plenty of stories about children believing they are the reincarnations of very ordinary folk.

I don't know what the truth is but some of these stories are so compelling yet remain unexplained.

ScreamingValenta · 19/07/2019 07:45

Here is a link to the story of the Barra boy - it's a fascinating programme.

Owlsintowels · 19/07/2019 07:51

My brother was obsessed with making paper shoes when he was a child and I distinctly remember him telling me he used to be a shoemaker until he died at 33.

It was a very odd and out of character thing for him to say which is why it stuck, it was almost like he was suddenly possessed for the time it took him to speak

I don't know how old he was, probably about 5

I'm a total non believer, this was just 'one of those things'

Creepy though

HisBetterHalf · 19/07/2019 07:54

YABU for reading the Sun Confused

GoFiguire · 19/07/2019 10:14

A friend (with an uncanny knack for getting things right) predicted that I would have a girl and twin boys. Four years on I did indeed have a girl followed by twin boys (twins don’t run in the family and I didn’t have IVF). She also told me that I was the reincarnation of an English Lord who had been shot down and killed in WWI. I tried researching this but couldn’t find anything. I do believe that I should live in a castle, though.

Bandara · 19/07/2019 11:14

Ive always felt very connected to world war two. I am sure I had a life at that time. I went to see auschwitz and I felt I remembered something. I just hope I was on the side of the victims. And not a nazi. I would hate to hear that I was

Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/07/2019 11:27

Reincarnation is just unplugging you and plugging someone else into the same socket

Actually, for reincarnationists it's the other way round; it's the immortal soul which is "plugged into" another life rather than that life being plugged into it

The soul itself holds the knowledge of its entire existence, but accessing this during any particular life depends on things such as receptiveness - which perhaps explains why a child's uncluttered brain often makes a good conduit

It really is a subject which rewards study, and if it helps there's a pretty good article here: blavatskytheosophy.com/a-right-understanding-of-reincarnation/

donquixotedelamancha · 19/07/2019 11:32

Shame on them for exploiting him to make a bit of cash, it makes me uncomfortable that he can’t really consent to all this media attention.

Can't believe how bigoted some people are being about this child. The appropriate thing is for her to dress as Dianna for now, start hormones at about age 12 and then surgery.

It's not 2014. We don't medicalise this stuff anymore. TPAP.

Lifecraft · 19/07/2019 14:31

I used to tell people I was once a turtle... dont remember anything from my turtle life

Maybe shell shock caused you to forget.

Lifecraft · 19/07/2019 14:35

Its a fact that even after death memory cannot be destroyed so it has to go somewhere.

It's a fact that 99% of sentences that begin "It's a fact" are followed by complete and utter tripe.

And my sentence above was one of them, because it's actually 99.5%.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/07/2019 14:53

Maybe shell shock caused you to forget

Brilliant!!! Grin Grin

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