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WIBU to pull DS from nursery after 3 weeks for this

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Thegracefuloctopus · 15/07/2019 18:43

Posting here for traffic really but please help.

Ds is 9 months old. He has been going to nursery 2 days a week for 3 weeks, eventually increasing to 3 days a week next month. But a few things have happened which are making me question the nursery. But i dont know if we are being too precious.
Chose this nursery because it was recommended to me and is close to work (obviously checked it out first).
So DS has a nap each morning and each lunchtime on the whole. Since being at nursery, they only do one at lunch time and dont seem to try with the other ones. Once hes had A sleep, thats it for the day. Understandable, most babies dont settle as well at nursery but they dont even try to go with the times ive said, just willynilly (i.e wait till he falls asleep somewhere and pop him in a cot).
He came home with a massive bruise on his shin. No mention of it from nursery. No accident form and it was huge. So big it couldnt have been unnoticed. They also never asked me about it. However, this morning, another mum mentioned her daughter had a small bruise and they made her fill out a form to say it had happened at home. Find it odd they didnt ask for that from me.
DS is still weaning (obviously, hes still young) so he has a milk at 10.30am and 2pm ish depending on his lunch time. HE ALWAYS HAS HIS PM MILK. Today, they said he 'just didnt fancy it' when it was offered and they then didnt try again but waited until dinner time and gave him solids. DS was then starving at pick up.
They rang me to ask me to pick him up because he had to have his eyes wiped 3 times and they suspected conjunctivitus, when i said he has been checked out and doc has said he is fine to go to nursery, they said "if we have to wipe his eye one more time we will call again" i said thats fine and would prep boss that i would need to leave. They didnt ring so assumed all ok but at pick up, his face was covered in eye gunk and they said they didnt want to ring again so didnt wipe it.
When i arrived today, DS was playing 1 on 1 with member of staff in door way to garden. He then crawls over to me and starts gagging and coughing. Litterally as if hes chocking. Nursery staff couldnt give a shit so i slapped him on the back and he was sick and spat out a leaf. I understand kids put things in their mouths but he had been playing 1 on 1 and they wernt bothered by his gagging at all. Key worker then offered him water in a sippy cup i specifically asked her not to use becauae it gives him wind and hes sick everywhere ( hes constantly sick anyway hense me asking her not to use a sippy cup but a munchkin cup. I offered to supply his own but they said they had some avaliable to use so i didnt).
Worst of all, every day hes there he gets really really bad nappy rash. Like red raw, crying in pain from it. Never ever gets that at home. We get him home and he recovers over night then the following day it gets bad again. Like hes been left in a pooey nappy for ages. Ive voiced my concern about it but they just kind of dismiss it.
So, WIBU to pull him from the nursery and find somewhere else or are we being too sesitive? Is this just what nursery is like? Can i request some kind of meeting? I feel like they tell me what i want to hear but ds behaviour doesnt match what they've said. Anyone else been through similar qnd what would you do?

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randomncftw · 15/07/2019 19:10

I would take him out. Have you thought about a childminder? I prefer them in general as I think children get more concentrated care.

NellWilsonsWhiteHair · 15/07/2019 19:12

You've got a mix of issues which are serious and ones where you are being a bit pfb.

Serious issues: suspected laziness re changes, lack of adequate care re eye and lack of reporting accident. Arguably, lack of concern when he was choking but he was in your care by that point.

Everything else, cups, sleeps etc, is normal for a nursery and you're going to need to let it go.

Fundamentally, though, you don't have confidence in the setting, and that's the real issue. Look for somewhere else, because it's hard enough leaving your baby every day without doubting that they're safe and happy.

All of this.

And yeah - I wouldn’t particularly frame this as a nursery vs childminder difference. I’ve used both and all else held equal I think a childminder is much better for that age, but not because they humour preciousness about cups any better.

birdonawire1 · 15/07/2019 19:40

I would look at an alternative to nursery. Childminder sounds better.

Sorryisntgoodenough · 15/07/2019 20:00

Is this just what nursery is like?

Nope. And I actually gave notice to remove my DC from one nursery after only a week. DC was only there 3 sessions and each day something awful had happened from not being fed at all to being given something they were allergic to then finally an injury and having their skin rubbed off.

I was on a waiting list for another place and I begged them to see if they had room. Lovely lady reorganised the baby room and fitted my DC in. Had 3 happy years there.

MyKingdomForBrie · 15/07/2019 20:03

Oh my dear god no you are not being 'sensitive', move the poor baby!

DodgeRainClouds · 15/07/2019 20:11

I’m a nursery nurse and I think you should remove him. ALWAYS listen to your gut instincts.

Thegracefuloctopus · 15/07/2019 20:13

Thank you all for you advice.
Plan is to.take DS in tomorrow (as we have no other option) and call another branch of the same company who are a much smaller setting and see if we can move him there. That way, we dont have to give notice, they will move him straight away hopefully and when i had a show around of this setting i much preferred it but sent DS to this one as it was closer to work and a shorter journey, bloody wish i hadnt now! I feel terrible for letting it go on so long.
Thank you for your suggestions of child minder. We have thought about it but our concern was over when they close for weeks off that we probably wouldnt be able to get care for/get off work which was one reason for going for a nursery. Hopefully my plan to move him works and i dont have to send him back anymore.

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HeadintheiClouds · 15/07/2019 20:14

Good luck 🍀

user2085372673 · 15/07/2019 20:17

This is similar to what happened to me and I waited 6 weeks feeling uncomfortable wit the set up but thinking I was being neurotic, especially as I had friends and an older son who were at the same nursery having a blast. In the end I moved her to a childminder and she was happier straight away. I’d have a look into a childminder, if you can find a good one it can suit some babies better.

Greyworm · 15/07/2019 20:17

Op that is awful. Hope you manage to move him. I think the management need telling. They'll have a million excuses but they still need to know.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 15/07/2019 20:17

Take him out. There are so many red flags. The fact that he was coughing his little guts up and they just stood there has made me cold. Yes I know you were there, but even so. How do you know they would have reacted any differently if you weren't there.

Plus the nappy thing is also a huge concern.

TheTrollFairy · 15/07/2019 20:19

Some of the stuff I think is kind of standard (the naps mostly). Things like the milk i wouldn’t be happy about and the bum rash too (my DD used to get it at nursery and not at home - not great but they have multiple kids) but the other stuff I would be pissed off with, not wiping eyes, giving him the wrong cup etc is just basic and not hard to manage.
I would be giving notice and taking him out

Waveysnail · 15/07/2019 20:20

Nursery I used had their own sleep, milk and meal time routines so I wouldnt expect them to stick different ones for each baby.

Bruises could happened just before pick up.

No excuse for nappy rash unless they are using different creams or nappies.

If hes constantly sick then you may run into trouble with most daycares are lots send them.home after two vomiting incidents

TheTrollFairy · 15/07/2019 20:22

^^ the rash DD got was because her butt didn’t like the nappies they used at nursery so we supplied our own which cleared it up. Not sure if this would be the same for your son?

Her0utdoors · 15/07/2019 20:34

This is what some nurseries are like, and some childminders are like too.
If you have raised all these issues with the nursery and they haven't improved their practice then yes, remove your baby and tell them why, but you need to tell them what the problems are if you want to improve the situation.
I gave removed dd from a nursery and a childminder because they weren't offering the standard of care I required and when I spoke to them about it they were extremely defensive and make the problem out to be my child and the way I parented her. It's a steep learning curve.

LoveB · 15/07/2019 20:38

I would definitely remove my child from that nursery

Thegracefuloctopus · 15/07/2019 20:40

We send in nappies and wipes for them to use and cream is sudocreme which we use at home. The constant sickness is milky reflux which hes being treated for not like a full on vom thank god. Only difference between nursery nappy changes and home is that they wear gloves (which i understand they have to and would never ask them not to!) But i wondered if it was those which were causing a reaction but honestly, it just looks like hes been sat in a poo for too long.
Forgot to mention, when picking ds up today, heard anouther member of staff changing a child (on the floor!) Say "dont kick me, it hurts and i wont change you" so i do wonder if they dont change him as often because he rolls around and stuff. Once you notice a few things, your head cant stop picking up on bits

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Bashbaby · 15/07/2019 20:42

Longer term go nursery and childminder. Works for us and nursery then covers childminders holidays. Definitely change nursery though-our nursery is nothing like that!

koshkat · 15/07/2019 20:46

Pull him out. Trust yourself.
If this was me he would never set foot in the place again.

MeadowHay · 15/07/2019 20:53

If you have a bad gut feeling I would take him out. My DD started nursery at 8.5 months and I spent the first couple of months fretting, especially as it did take her a good 8 weeks or so to fully settle in tbh.

We have had 'issues' with our nursery BUT I think the difference is even when we've had concerns, my gut feeling was always actually that they were doing a generally good job, that she was generally happy and most importantly that she was safe and the issues were more about things I wanted for her in terms of routine rather than anything totally necessary for her wellbeing. The most significant issue we had is that one day they missed one of her bottles a few months ago and she turned out to be very hungry and distressed for awhile after pick up before we realised, but even if that was more a misunderstanding because she had been dropped off and collected at different times to usual. And it never happened again and they took us very seriously and gave us full confidence that it wouldn't happen again. I think there is definitely something in the gut.

Re nappy rash, DD often gets it worse at nursery than the days at home as well, I think this is down to the wipes they use and the fact that they change her a lot more regularly than she gets changed at home, so she's being wiped more often = more nappy rash. They have Sudocrem and we supplied Metanium so they know to apply both when there's nappy rash, they changed her HOURLY when she had a horrible flare up that required loads of medicated creams, and they have switched her to conti wipes which seems to have resolved the problem.

MontyBowJangles · 15/07/2019 21:02

Trust your gut. Always.

Whatkatyforgottodo · 15/07/2019 21:03

YANBU. Trust your gut. There are too many things here that are a concern. Hope the other nursery works out for you and if not, definitely rethink a childminder, I’ve used two and they have both been fantastic!

Nomorepies · 15/07/2019 21:20

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Grumpos · 15/07/2019 21:29

Find a different nursery, my ds goes a few times a week and they are brilliant, they try to stick to his home routine as much as possible and always tell me if something hasn’t gone to plan.
They absolutely adore the kids and you can tell that the kids love being there, without wanting to jinx myself I’ve never have a bad moment with ds dropping him off / picking up etc.
Nursery’s are a great environment for development in all areas but don’t stay at one you have doubts about!

AmIRightOrAMeringue · 15/07/2019 21:31

The napping thing is normal from what I've seen. I dont think they try that hard to get kids to nap if its outside the nursery own napping schedule (and to be fair its probably difficult), most people I know have had knackered babies for a few months.

However the rest isn't great. Nappy rash can happen to anyone at any time - its easy to miss a poo occasionally especially if you're outside and it's not as easy to smell it. But it happening that frequently is worrying

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