To think that Home Educated children should be inspected every year?

[jennymanara]

I think home education can work. I know a fair number of parents who are home educating from some who teach their kids to those who are unschoolers.
But I also think there are parents who home educate who are not up to the job and claim to be unschooling, but are in fact just educationally neglecting their children.
There should be an annual inspection of all kids being home schooled. This should check that children are actually getting some form of education, and not just left for example to play minesweeper all day, as one single mother I knew did with her teenage son.

There's an independent fundamentalist christian school near me where children are taught by rote, no interaction between pupils, they don't do external exams only there own 'christian' exams where they are expected to give Bible quotes on all subjects, nothing from modern science etc.

I feel this is pretty rubbish schooling so can I use this one example to write off all schools?

There's good home ed and bad home ed. And good schools and bad schools. But at the end of the day we have the freedom to choose how we educate our children, and that's a much better approach than trying a one size fits all 'make home ed do the same as school' idea.

@Anxiety is that in the UK?!

@ohrainyday i think the h.ers on this thread are trying to say that a register will be 'opening the gates' to other things. So for me, what concerns me is that bejng put on a register will then enab le LA to come into my home and start negativel y affecting my kids lives, by enforcing changes etc.
It's like HE are concerned of where it will lead

I also find it insulting that some cf will come in 'with my kids best interests at heart' when theY didn't give a rats when they were at school. and being abused.

Jesus christ just read that back, I meant my kids were being abused AT SCHOOL.

No, nobody's saying that it's fine for children to be abused *ohrainydays".

You said "kids can be removed from all contact with the outside world legally "
You were removed from all contact with the outside world, but when parents de-register a child from school that's all they are actually doing. They are saying that they no longer want the school to educate their child. Don't mix up de-registering a child from school with "removing them from all contact with the outside world legally". That's not what de-registering a child from school means. For you personally that is what happened after you were taken out of school, but that is not what de-registration means, legally.

Did you go to school in England?

... I read the whole thread, i know which posts you're referring to but... Are you being serious?
I think it was used as an example. To say that the register/monitoring would be never ending, and microchipping was used as we all know what it is and it drives a point home.

I do not think anyone anyone would say abuse 'is fine'. Or by protesting against the register is the same as advocating abuse.

I can't speak on behalf of other's. I am protesting against the register as I see too many negatives compared to the positives.

The only way I believe abuse will stop is if abusers are wiped off the face of the earth, and thats just not going to happen is it? Doesn't mean I don't care. Doesn't mean I support 'human' filth. I don't believe a register will fix the problem. Maybe I'll be proven wrong?

@BaldCape - Yes in the UK!

Anxiety - that is nightmare fuel. Country I previously lived in had similar, but I didn't thinj it really went on here.

But at the end of the day we have the freedom to choose how we educate our children,
We have a legal responsibility to educate our children. HE is just one way of doing that.

I’m baffled that people are so taken with the idea of a register. What on Earth do you think being on s list will do for any of us?

The thing is @ohrainydays is that a register doesn't target the shit he'rs. It targets us all. We're all getting ggrouped together. It's almost feels like discrimination.

ohrainydays it's difficult to discuss this with you as you are now saying that doctors and schools are "society". That's not what you said before. And I thought you were talking about "legally removing a child from society" and I was trying to explain that there is no such thing.
There are very few cases of abuse or neglect of HE children. You were obviously one of them and I am very sorry about that. Were any concerns raised about you while you were at school do you know?

I understand your concerns. It's just that there isn't an easy way to solve the problem of children being abused.

But the government ALREADY know these children exist. We register births in the UK.

Is there a sighing emoji for mn?
Not that I have to 'prove myself', but I will, to humor you.

FOR MY FAMILY:
my children see a doctor as and when needed
eldest wears glasses, so is seen yearly by an optician
dentist every six months

And then
They're in Scouts
One is in Guides
Both are in a coding group at the local library
Both are in a chess group at the local library
Both pester numerous librarians on a regular basis, and are known as friends by several library staff
Both go to a horse riding group (and one competes nationally)
Both are in Muay Thai groups
Both are in boxing clubs, both compete nationally
Eldest is in the local Harriers
Both speak to local shop keepers
Both have made friends with the baristas at our favourite coffee shop

Both are currently out playing with several schooled friends that have their parents pop o ut and have a chat with them

Etc

Etc

My kids definitely exist lol. They are definitely seen/heard.
You are being ridiculous.

Rainydays you are misunderstanding it!

I know you are not picking on the good uns. I GET THAT.
I don't think you comprehend that a register will not solve the problem. It will instead make life miserable for the good home ed families.

the register is redundant.

Im trying to think of an analogy. this is the best I can do atm

(Exchange the term 'rat' with 'abusive piece of shit'.
Exchange the term 'house' with 'home ed'.
Imagine the fire, bein g this register)

You wouldn't burn your house down to kill a rat.

I am finding the constant throwing of “but kids get abused anyway” as a response to completely genuine safeguarding concerns absolutely disgusting.

Rainy I’m sorry about your abuse. I wish someone had protected you.