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To think there is a grave in my garden?

409 replies

IsItATomb · 09/07/2019 19:21

NC for this as the pics are outing.

Moved in to my house in April and it has what I thought is a really ugly raised bed in the garden. Now the summer has arrived I've realised it gets no sunshine on it at all so isn't a raised bed after all.

DD and I were pottering our there this afternoon and we came across this plaque on the raised bed.

WTF.

Is it a coincidence or is it a grave?!

To think there is a grave in my garden?
To think there is a grave in my garden?
OP posts:
TheTitOfTheIceberg · 10/07/2019 20:28

That’s a lovely way of thinking about it *MrsButterBosom”.

BettysLeftTentacle · 10/07/2019 20:38

The dead never want to be forgotten and I think thousands of years of this need, this want, this urge, shouldn’t be trumped by an early Victorian idea of “respect” born out of grave robbing.

YES!!! I do a little whoop every time I see a healthy, rational attitude towards death. Thank you @MrsButterBosom.

If I had a grave in my garden I would be ecstatic.

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 10/07/2019 20:49

No way would I go knowingly disturbing graves or ashes or trees planted in memorial.

Someone's laid their loved ones there, who am I to start digging or chopping things there.

Also, that way trouble lays.

justaweeone · 10/07/2019 20:55

I live in a converted Chapel with graves
From 1800 to 1980
The founders and their families are buried there
It's now a closed graveyard
I feel great respect for them and feel very privileged to have them as part of our property
Only are a few are tended and if they leave flowers I will always remove them when they are past their best
My children have grown up with them
And our mantra is ' it's the living that could hurt you' not the dead

NoIDontWatchLoveIsland · 10/07/2019 21:04

I'm an archaeology nerd too. But this is about something in living memory. I would check if the parents are still alive/mind. If they have passed on, I wouldn't take issue with someone excavating something then - graves are for the bereaved, not the dead iyswim.

Angrywife · 10/07/2019 21:33

Surely it's more likely to be where his ashes are scattered, or a memorial tree than a grave!

vale46 · 10/07/2019 21:36

How sad that somebody lost their special son. If it were me I'd keep it and put flowers round it. I don't like the thought of disturbing anyone at peace. I still worry about disturbing the ancient Egyptians!

bubblegumunicorn · 10/07/2019 21:39

@TitsInAbsentia it depends on how old the couple were when they died 1980 was 39 years ago so someone who died in 2018 aged 70 was 32 in 1980!!

IsItATomb · 10/07/2019 22:14

No news yet, I'm waiting for my neighbour to speak to her neighbour to see what she knows.
Her neighbour was a friend of the lady who lived here and is going to try and get in touch with the remaining family to see what she can find out or if they want the plaque back.

If it turns out that he is buried there, in body or ashes then I'll restore it and make something nice of the area.
If not I'll take it down and put the plaque under my cherry tree so he won't be forgotten. That is unless the family want the plaque of corse.

I wouldn't disturb the dead if I knew they were definitely in there, especially the grave of a child.

OP posts:
VanillaSugarr · 10/07/2019 22:52

Sounds perfect and respectful OP.

Lovesabadboy · 10/07/2019 23:00

We used to live in a house that was on the site of an old chapel and we had 3 very old, full-sized gravestones in our garden!

I was only a child when we moved there and I wasn't at all bothered about them.
It is only now I am (a lot) older that I would be a bit more Shock Hmm about them!

Ginandsonic · 10/07/2019 23:12

I read something that it's estimated that 105 billion humans have ever lived. So I'd say it's a safe bet that there's remains all around us all of the time. That's a lot of dead people.

ReganSomerset · 11/07/2019 01:05

Well yeah, gin it is a lot of dead people, but it's also a big planet, lots were not buried and those that were were not evenly distributed. Many will be long decomposed too.

GinPin2 · 11/07/2019 06:31

ashes maybe?

Ladyfaith · 11/07/2019 06:35

Chances are it’s a memorial garden, I have 2 in my garden. Which I honour and look after.

MrsButterBosom · 11/07/2019 06:39

You don’t need to dig up and remove the remains but I think OP is fine to dig up and look to make sure what is actually there if she wants to. I don’t feel that is disrespectful. Interested to see what the neighbour says Smile Nearly everything in London is built on graves btw, anytime any new building goes in they need a year of archeology work because they’re always disturbing plague grave pits or old forgotten cemeteries or Roman graveyards!

BettysLeftTentacle · 11/07/2019 07:13

That sounds like a good plan OP and entirely respectful. If they were all looking down I’m sure they’d be chuffed that they’re all being remembered as a family and their best interests are being looked after.

Seahorseshoe · 11/07/2019 07:21

Probably a memory garden.

Manth85 · 11/07/2019 11:35

I hope it is just a memorial garden and I think its lovely that you'll be willing to keep the plaque if their relatives don't want it.

Justaboy · 11/07/2019 12:04

I wouldn't disturb the dead if I knew they were definitely in there, especially the grave of a child

Thats very good of you OP perhaps a little unusual garden feature?, poor little child deserves a decent resting place!

Be intresting all the same of you can find out more about him?

Maz54 · 11/07/2019 12:18

my neighbour is thinking of burying her husband's ashes in her garden and then having a plaque in his memory. I didn't think it a good idea because what are you going to do if you move, dig it up?? My friend has her husbands in a special made for purpose plant pot with a plant above the ashes if you know what I mean. At least that way you can take it with you if you move instead of creeping someone out who stumbles across it in their newly bought property.

Justaboy · 11/07/2019 13:09

Maz54

Quite agree and the idea of a garden burial is well OK for now but the house sold and other relatives what to pay thier respects?, perhaps not.

I do know of a farmer who had a shepherd who was very dedicated to his job and when the poor old boy passed away they buried him up on the pastures where he worked most of his life. I've seen the plaque that cebrates his life although its on a bit of private land the farmer had the deeds or a covenant set so that people could vist his resting place in perpetuity!.

Medjuel · 11/07/2019 13:35

OP - your story is now appearing in the Daily Fail online.

Chovihano · 11/07/2019 13:52

I thought if you dug somewhere and found bones you had to report it to Police, who came round and investigated.
I'm not sure I'd want all that fuss and upheaval.

CoolCarrie · 11/07/2019 14:16

Ruth Rendell used a very similar idea at the start of A Fatal Inversion..., it’s one of her best imo.

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