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AIBU in thinking if you have a Council house and the Council are modernising it you shouldn't really moan about it?!

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Mydietstartstomorrow · 09/07/2019 14:00

So I'm in B&M in the queue listening to a customer moan on and on about how the Council have only given her 3 weeks notice that she is getting a new kitchen and bathroom fitted and this is totally unacceptable and how it's going to disrupt her life! Checkout lady then moans that she contacted her Housing Association to find out she's not entitled to a new bathroom for some time yet. AIBU to think some people feel so entitled? What about the people (me) who own their own home and cant currently ever imagine having the money to have a new kitchen and bathroom fitted?! Oh, and the loft was being insulated also!

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Passthecherrycoke · 10/07/2019 13:40

After 40 years you’d be unlikely to get a mortgage so you’d need cash for 30% of the purchase price. Where I live that’s sizeable.

Monkey I see them regularly and usually what we see is someone getting £30-40k off a £300k house. That’s a lovely discount, but probably not giving them an advantage over any other homebuyer because £270k is a fair budget in those areas.

In more expensive parts of our region it doesn’t happen at all, because the houses are so expensive the tenants can’t raise the mortgage even with discount

MonkeyTrap · 10/07/2019 13:57

@Passthecherrycoke

It’s a huge advantage given they don’t need a cash deposit and that’s mostly what prevents renters from being able to buy?

MonkeyTrap · 10/07/2019 14:03

It's just retroactively reclassifying past rent paid as mortgage payments, isn't it?

An option not available to any other private renter.

Passthecherrycoke · 10/07/2019 14:06

I wouldn’t say it’s just the deposit, you’d have to be earning around £70k to get a £270k mortgage anyway. But you’re not going to change your mind because you’re clearly hugely resentful of someone getting something you don’t so may as well agree to disagree

MonkeyTrap · 10/07/2019 14:08

£30k-£40k is not 35% of £300k which is the entry for RTB.
Are you talking about a different scheme?

I’m not overly resentful. I just made the comment they can buy their houses at a massive discount. You’re trying to assert that’s not the case and I disagree that it’s not a big advantage Hmm

JamieVardysHavingAParty · 10/07/2019 14:11

An option not available to any other private renter.

So what?

I have had a council flat, private renting and now I am paying a mortgage. They are all different. Big whoop. Grin

MonkeyTrap · 10/07/2019 14:13

So it is an advantage. That’s what. Hmm

JamieVardysHavingAParty · 10/07/2019 14:16

£30k-£40k is not 35% of £300k which is the entry for RTB.

Huh? Says on your link that there is a ceiling on the discount of £82,800. 35% of 300k is £105,000 so no-one will be getting that high a discount, outside London.

HelenaDove · 10/07/2019 14:27

I was re reading two of the old Grenfell threads last night. From the time of the fire. I think i will continue to take the advice of @Frouby and @ExplodedCloud ta

@lyralalala i also have to have a gas safety check despite not having gas We have electric . We did have gas but it was capped.

I did ask why we still had to have it done and was told "well some tenants will illegally fiddle with it so we still have to check."

There is a lot of moaning on here about tenants saying HAs are all the same
Yet its okay to treat all tenants as potential criminals. Makes me laugh One minute we are all as thick as shit Next we are all criminal masterminds.
Yet tenants who are druggies or drug dealers seem to get a free pass.

My flat stunk so badly of strong weed last night because of him underneath that it affected my eyes.

Pinktinker · 10/07/2019 14:29

YABU. They still pay to live in the house, they don’t get it for free. Having a new bathroom and kitchen fitted is hugely disruptive to anyone’s life, I wouldn’t be pleased with such little notice either.

JamieVardysHavingAParty · 10/07/2019 14:35

i also have to have a gas safety check despite not having gas We have electric . We did have gas but it was capped.

I'm not a gas fitter, but they probably have a legal responsibility to check that capped off pipes are still capped. That is legislation for tenants' safety after a few too many people died as a result of landlords' slapdash attitude to gas safety. It can be bloody inconvenient being in for it (believe me, I know) but it is important H&S legislation that benefits all of us who are or have been tenants.

HelenaDove · 10/07/2019 14:38

Jamie im not bothered by it He just comes in and ticks it off basically.

But ive had SEVEN requests for surveys since New Year, Ive said yes to some of them but cant do it all the time if i have appointments booked and have to be out.

x2boys · 10/07/2019 14:45

Well.if it makes you feel any better monkey a lot I council's have sold their houses to housing associations and the discount on right to acquire is much smaller .

MonkeyTrap · 10/07/2019 14:47

Feeling fine anyway, thank you for the concern. I really don’t give a shit. Just making a statement of fact. It doesn’t mean I’m massively personally invested as MN likes to assume. There is such a thing as passing comment Grin

Passthecherrycoke · 10/07/2019 14:50

@HelenaDove no one knows what you’re talking about. Youre starting to sound bonkers. You would get much further with your cause if you just calmed down and applied your passion intelligently.

JamieVardysHavingAParty · 10/07/2019 14:53

Okay, well, in a break from work, I've calculated that an £82,800 discount on a £300,000 house is 27.6% off.

HelenaDove · 10/07/2019 15:00

@Passthecherrycoke Well now that is interesting considering a lot of it was coped and pasted from the Grenfell threads. Its quite sinister how the attitudes of some change once the timeline gets further away from a tragedy. The put up and shut up attitudes towards tenants is not something certain ppl want to give up any time soon Power is an addictive drug.

Dont be so fucking condescending.

Passthecherrycoke · 10/07/2019 15:01

A lot of what? Seriously I don’t think anyone on THIS thread knows what you’re talking about. It’s really bizarre

HelenaDove · 10/07/2019 15:08

Im talking about my posts YOU said NO ONE understands what im talking about You must be very tired if you have had that confirmed by PMing the others on this thread overnight

You were referencing my posts So i told you where some of them were from.

Passthecherrycoke · 10/07/2019 15:11

Believe me, no one knows why you’re posting 800 word rants from random angry tenants

HelenaDove · 10/07/2019 15:17

To show what a lot of tenants are going through i did link the trustpilot link for Clarion too. After your insistence that the complaints arent representative of them.

Passthecherrycoke · 10/07/2019 15:20

Ok but that doesn’t show what tenants experiences are like in any representative way and I assume you must know that.

RubberTreePlant · 10/07/2019 17:04

Well now that is interesting considering a lot of it was coped and pasted from the Grenfell threads. Its quite sinister how the attitudes of some change once the timeline gets further away from a tragedy.

@HelenaDove it's just that it's harder to follow what those long quotes are about when they're reproduced out of context.

Twotome · 10/07/2019 17:12

Discount is still big. 30% off market value plus an extra 1% for every year you have been a tenant over 3 years. And no deposit needed as the equity is in the discount. You have to live in it for 5 years or subject to pay a percentage of the discount back. I think the RTB scheme is great.

Twotome · 10/07/2019 17:14

Sorry 35% not 30!

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