to ask for help with DD school project?!

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DD3 is in Y10, she has just turned 15.

For English she has to write an essay analysing the differences (vague so can be lifestyle, childhood etc) between people born from 2000-2006 (early/mid noughties basically) and people born between 2010 and 2016.

So simply put, can you guys think of many differences between your teens (born in 00 would mean 18/19 and 06 would be 13 this year so yeah, teenagers) and younger children.

So far she’s planning to speak about how her and her sisters’ generation (DD3 is born 04, DD3 is 02 and DD1, 00) experienced late 20th century ways of perceiving life from their slightly older parents, DD3 grew up with a bulky old 00’ television and we didn’t get a proper flatscreen until the early 2010s, they had CDs/DVDs instead of iPads etc.

Any other ideas? DD would be very grateful as she’s lost the majority of her plan and finds it tricky to think on the spot!

Goodness not a lot of difference between those two times! Try and do more non tech stuff. I’d say huge change happened after the 9/11 terrorist attacks in NY, for example.

Changes to Parenting styles the latter being more relaxed than the snowflake generation now. How this may/may not be having an impact on children's mental health.

Obesity crisis - more prevalent in younger generation.

The rise in awareness of children's rights etc.

Yes exactly! I think 9/11 and the London tube attacks, Iraq war, financial crash would be good to mention as they along with tech are probably the only actual differences between the way teenagers grew up and children growing up now (2-9years old for her project I think)

Social media

@noimaginationatall thank you!!

@lollipopguild Good talking point as FB which is considered an old social media came out after DD1 and 2 were born and in the same year as DD3 was born and obviously didn’t pick up for a little while, instagram/snapchat are very new ect

Brexit?

Ah of course @missyB1 thanks

For the older age group - Facebook.

For the younger age group - SnapChat

The rise of the smartphone and the reduction of the age atbwhuch DC got their first phones.

Differences made by kindles/other e-readers and iPads (all of which were new tech, and not much in the hands of the older group of DC in the question until they were top primary or into secondary)

Remembering the jubilee/Olympic year of 2012 (nation in fairly celebrational mode then, not so much since)

Reading Harry Potter and also The Hunger Games because the films hadn't come out

Watching CBBC as part of mainstream Beeb programming, instead of only being available in a kid's space - a different sense of belonging

The introduction of longer maternity leave was introduced in 2005 which brought about a huge change in children's early lives. It would only be at the very young age of the 2000 -06 cohort that would have experienced their mother being at home for their first 6 months.

There has been a massive rise in awareness of environmental issues in that time too.

My 4 dc range from 2001 to 2009 so youngest is just ahead of the second range but the older 2 (18 & 16) Point out that dc4 (10) has a smart phone when they had a Nokia brick!!

TV - dc1&2 had CBeebies/CBBC on freeview on a giant telly. Dc4 has access to Netflix, YouTube, Amazon Prime etc via smart telly. They watched what was on not necessarily what they wanted!

Things they won’t remember but I do - weaning rules/advice changed. Dc1 was 12 weeks/3mths and by the time we had dc4, it was 6mths. Similarly the guidance on car seats has changed.

Pushchairs and Prams changed too between dc1 & 4. Some of them now look positively space age

I’ll come back if I think of anything else - hope that’s helpful even if we’re not quite the right younger age bracket

Photos - I took film photos and have 2 albums full for dc1. By dc4 everything was digital.

@Lindellia That wouldn’t work as the older age group are people who are currently aged 13-19. My oldest is 18 and has fb but used snapchat/insta more. Younger two are mid teens and don’t have fb. So the older bracket would be snapchat and then the younger bracket is children who are toddlers to age 9 so no social media there except through parents!

@EdithWeston @RangerLady @Unescorted All wonderful points have jotted them down!

I have a 2000 stepdaughter and a 2009 daughter.

Chatting to stepdaughter’s dad, I’d say there were far more differences based on our parenting styles (we’re the same age, I had mine later) and different incomes, than anything about the wider environment. If it were my essay, I’d be making that point.

In general, I’d say that tech wise things aren’t that different - but the age of exposure is. So both young adult and child use / used computer games, social media, apps, social texting... just my younger daughter started earlier. So it’s not unusual for my 10yo to have a phone in her peer group - though still a minority. But for the 19yo, no-one had a phone in primary. So not a big difference - they’ll both look back on childhoods with Instagram and YouTube influencers, reality TV... but from an earlier age.

I’d say that the 2000 group are likely to choose to become vegetarian / vegan in their late teens, whereas the 2010 group are more likely to have been brought up that way, or changed to it via parental decision not their own.

Environmental issues... both, just over different things. My 10yo would instantly tell you about single use plastic, but the 19yo was also in school’s “eco warriors” club. But environmentalist concern is common to both groups. Both went to Brownies and gymnastics, both had classes on personal safety online.

I’m not sure about a McCann effect... that was 2007, so you might get a “left in hotel rooms” vs not, between those two year groups. But I’m not sure it was exactly the norm before McCann.

Oh yes @PhannyMcNee the photos thing especially! We have photo albums galore and photos in folders on the Mac of the DDs from the 2000s and early/mid 2010s but DSIS had her children later (earliest was 2012) and has hardly any ‘real’ photos, they’re all on her phone etc!

@Ellisandra Very helpful post with the direct comparison, much appreciated! I’ve taken most of your points down thank you

Just to clarify on saying that the tech wasn’t that different... obviously the Nokia brick vs the smartphone is! But my point is that both groups are still pretty much children - and both groups have had smartphones in their childhood. It’s nothing like comparing with my 70s childhood, where looking something up for homework was genuinely a walk to the library and the encyclopaedia set!

I agree, completely! The 70s were very different to both the 00s and 2010s😂

First thing I thought of has already been mentioned, the age that children seem to have their first mobile phones. My dc is now 19 and he along with the vastly majority of his peers got their first phone when they went to secondary school, my nephew who would fall into the second category had a phone half way through primary school and was in the majority. Same with iPads and tablets, late teens now were lucky to play on their parents tablets, early teens probably have had their own for a few years.

The effects of one big difference won't be known for a long time yet because the baby weaning age changed in that timeframe. Today's 18/19 yos will have been given their first solid food at 15/16 weeks, but the parents of todays 13 yos will have been advised to wait until 6 months.

I think this probably had a big impact, but that’s supposition rather than research...

2010 was the introduction of 15 hours free nursery for 3-4 years.

Potentially, that’s a huge development. From the impact of mothers who couldn’t afford to work now working*, to earlier identification of safeguarding issues.

*this could be fascinating... financial freedom helps women to leave bad relationships, which is a massive impact for children. It would be interesting as a sociologist to look into that deeply.

Agree.
DD1 (19) got a touchscreen phone in y6 when most people didn't have one, so though she was late to having a phone, she got a 'cooler' one.
DD2 (14) everyone started straight away with hand down iphones

DD1 having to wait for later Harry Potter films
DD2 all available.

DD1 got all the way through secondary before trans / gender stereotyping became a 'thing'
DD2 people she knew at primary are now going by different names etc.

DD1 we expected her to be able to get a job in Europe if she wanted one.
DD2 we don't.

Concern about plastic use much greater now.

DD1 did GCSEs with CAs so fewer end exams but had to hit te ground running at start y10.
DD2 will do new GCSEs, more exams, harder curriculum, but have 2 full years to get the hang of it.

What ideas did your daughter had? If she had a majority of a plan to lose, she just have done some thinking of the topic?