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runningheights · 06/07/2019 20:33

DD3 is in Y10, she has just turned 15.

For English she has to write an essay analysing the differences (vague so can be lifestyle, childhood etc) between people born from 2000-2006 (early/mid noughties basically) and people born between 2010 and 2016.

So simply put, can you guys think of many differences between your teens (born in 00 would mean 18/19 and 06 would be 13 this year so yeah, teenagers) and younger children.

So far she’s planning to speak about how her and her sisters’ generation (DD3 is born 04, DD3 is 02 and DD1, 00) experienced late 20th century ways of perceiving life from their slightly older parents, DD3 grew up with a bulky old 00’ television and we didn’t get a proper flatscreen until the early 2010s, they had CDs/DVDs instead of iPads etc.

Any other ideas? DD would be very grateful as she’s lost the majority of her plan and finds it tricky to think on the spot!

OP posts:
BackforGood · 06/07/2019 21:40

I've just thought of the main one !!!

dd, born in 2001 - I had no MN !!! Grin

runningheights · 06/07/2019 21:42

@BackforGood Imagine if she wrote that about MN and her teacher marking it is on Mn and finds this and my other posts! Oh god BlushGrin

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AnAC12UCOinanOCG · 06/07/2019 21:47

I was 15 between 2000 and 2006 and I did my own homework.

YetAgainNameChanged · 06/07/2019 21:59

My comparrison of what mine could do at similar ages.

2004 child - was using internet at home on huge computer with base unit etc in main sitting room.
Uses a mouse with ease.
No real awareness of environmental catastrophe, just a bit of 'don't drop litter' knowledge.
Waiting (desperately) for cbeebies to start at 6am. No 'on demand' or netflix.
Olympic excitement 'Great' Britain. Royal weddings and babies.
No idea Brexit is a word.
Paper money (notes).

2015 child - at same age is using touch screens on a handheld digital device whilst lying on the sofa.
Expects everything to be touch screen. Can't use a mouse.
Aware of plastic and rubbish and environmental problems.
Never has to wait for tv. Everything instantly watchable on demand or online on a tiny hand held screen.
Knows (but doesn't understand) the term Brexit.
Plastic money (notes).

Ellisandra · 06/07/2019 23:24

I don’t think paper vs plastic notes is anything but a cosmetic difference. I think a much bigger difference is paper notes and bank cards, vs the connectivity of ApplePay and using a mobile phone to pay.

BackforGood · 07/07/2019 00:02

@runningheights

Grin
Gingerkittykat · 07/07/2019 01:00

Very young children having access to technology. I've seen toddlers be able to unlock a phone and find an app or be entertained during a family meal by a tablet.

Similarly I recently saw a mum and young child out in a cafe, mum completely ignored child while on phone and child sat in silence.

How will that affect social development?

Thistly · 07/07/2019 01:14

To add to Ellisandra’s point about free nursery education;

When my youngest started school there’s weree a few children crying every morning as they went in due to being separated for the first time from their primary carer.
I think this is more and more unusual now, and children belong to an institution from a much earlier age. This helps with safeguarding as well as early education.

However there has also been a mushroom in home education for older children, which is not always a great experience when children are removed from school due to poorly dealt with bullying.

stucknoue · 07/07/2019 01:18

The main difference is kids born before 2005 or so would not have access to tablets or smartphones most likely. When we went to restaurants we had to entertain our kids with crayons and colouring books! Not sure exactly when CBeebies started, we lived overseas. But most things are similar, my kids played computer games and other "modern" stuff

MrsMonkeyBear · 07/07/2019 04:51

Online shopping!!! No Amazon Prime to order that last minute outfit for world book day. You had to physically go shopping.

Napster/Limewire to download all your music. Now it's all YouTube/Spotify.

Voice activated technology - my 2 kids love nothing more than shouting at Alexa to play songs/turn the tv over/phone DH at work.

Online gaming. Although it's been around a while, possibly over both. Earlier kids would have had friends round to play Fifa etc. Now they don't have to leave their rooms to have social interaction with peers.

Ilovemylabrador · 07/07/2019 04:57

The biggest changes are
2007 first iPhone came out and that helped bring technology forward - touch screens internet demand tv etc

Free nursery child

Smoking ban

There is a lot of growing scientific evidence that children’s brains are no longer developing in the same way

sashh · 07/07/2019 05:50

Changes to GCSEs and A Levels.

For everyone referencing 9/11 - both groups won't remember it and have no experience of life before 9/11.

Being glued to your mobile phone, when I started teaching I can't remember ever asking someone to put their phone away. But phones were actually phones, not minicomputers.

The first group may well remember the London Olympics and even to have attended but the second won't.

Di11y · 07/07/2019 06:13

ease of access might be a good theme. tv on demand, amazon, unusual foods in supermarkets, vegan and gluten free on so many restaurant menus.

Di11y · 07/07/2019 06:16

even smart phones would come under that category, internet and social media on smart phones earlier.

Kyriesmum1 · 07/07/2019 06:20

The ban on smacking

Older children could be weaned from twelve weeks younger ones were 6 mths.

My older daughters (2002/03) both got a child's trust fund, youngest daughter 2007 didn't.

Canyousewcushions · 07/07/2019 06:44

Gina ford vs attachment parenting
Phone develpment- the younger ones are growing up being able to interact with tech through touch screens and speech from day one. And the number of photos we take of them now that we always have a camera in our back pockets.
Shift to card payments over cash - younger children my have less experience of handling cash as it's used less
Growing up with better recycling at home
Better awareness of forest school benefits- more school and nurserys do outdoor learning
Netflix/iPlayer. Not confined to what is currently on CBeebies.

Nappyvalley15 · 07/07/2019 06:44

Agree Rainatnight. Yes OP brainstorm a little with her yourself but asking mumsnet is a step too far imho. The teacher is trying to develop her independent learning and research skills with this assignment.

Canyousewcushions · 07/07/2019 06:48

Tamagotchi vs furbie (and now hatchimal) Am unclear on exact timelines. There must be other changes to what is in the top Christmas toys list.

Pokemon on game boy vs catching them in the real world with the app.

Starfish85 · 07/07/2019 06:59

I think the impact of austerity on children in low income families has been huge. Depending what your DD is like if she can thoughtfully write about it then it would give a very different angle to just technology differences. The rise in the use of food banks, the closure of children's centres, change in benefits, more children classed as homeless, more classed as living in poverty...heartbreaking really.

chipsnmayo · 07/07/2019 07:26

Back to phones - those born after 2010 probably will barely use landlines. A lot of parents of now use mobile phones. Whereas my DD is 21 and I had a land line, if she wanted to ring someone she would use that. I still have mine but its barely used.

And heaps of her peers first phones were either basic brick phones, or if you were lucky flip phones, or slide up phones. She got one in y6 and only a couple of her peers had one.

Definitely enviro issues, my DD did a climate change project in 2009ish convincing global warming was real.

DD has seen the change in the growing power of women in the work places and more flexibility, and women with more high profile roles.

Ellisandra · 07/07/2019 11:00

There is a lot of focus on smartphones here, but it would be interesting to remember that for both cohorts, there are people with access to the latest technology.

If you compare 2000 child with the latest phone of the era, with 2010 child with a much more powerful phone - you’re still looking at two children with access to the latest technology. Overall, their backgrounds and health and life chances are probably not that different.

But take the 2000 and 2010 children who are poor. The 2000 child may be less likely to be going to school hungry than the 2010 child - pre and post recession, introduction of lots of tax credits vs austerity and a shameful rise in food banks. I’d encourage your daughter to step outside the bubble she lives in re technology. (not criticising her - I’m in the same lucky bubble!)

Stillabitemo · 07/07/2019 11:12

The different government policies for each cohort?

YouTube!

eurochick · 07/07/2019 11:50

Tech has to be the biggest change. I got my first mobile in about 2000 and it held 5 text messages and did voice calls - that was it. Internet was dial up and very slow. Music was on CDs, maybe mini disk - no streaming. No tablets. Laptops were around but most people still used desktops at home and in the office.

Travel - before the "disruptors" like Ryanair got going, air travel was expensive and pretty inflexible. I studied in France in the late 90s (so a little before your time window) and a flight back to the U.K. was over £400. You can fly to New York for that 20 years later.

saoirse31 · 07/07/2019 12:02

I think I'd let her write her own essay tbh but I'm an old parentGrin

BackforGood · 07/07/2019 18:40

Changes to GCSEs and A Levels.

Not for most of that cohort. My dd2 was born in 2001 and was the first year to do all the '1 - 9' GCSEs, (So those born in 200o did English and Maths from the new and other subjects from the old) so that will be the same exams for both cohorts until some Education Minister of the future sticks their oar in again
My dd1 was born in 98 - so too old for OP's dd's comparison, and was in the cohort where 1/2 the A levels had ASs and half didn't (depending on subject, at the same school)

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