to ask for help with DD school project?!

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DD3 is in Y10, she has just turned 15.

For English she has to write an essay analysing the differences (vague so can be lifestyle, childhood etc) between people born from 2000-2006 (early/mid noughties basically) and people born between 2010 and 2016.

So simply put, can you guys think of many differences between your teens (born in 00 would mean 18/19 and 06 would be 13 this year so yeah, teenagers) and younger children.

So far she’s planning to speak about how her and her sisters’ generation (DD3 is born 04, DD3 is 02 and DD1, 00) experienced late 20th century ways of perceiving life from their slightly older parents, DD3 grew up with a bulky old 00’ television and we didn’t get a proper flatscreen until the early 2010s, they had CDs/DVDs instead of iPads etc.

Any other ideas? DD would be very grateful as she’s lost the majority of her plan and finds it tricky to think on the spot!

First iPhone was 2007 and first iPad was 2010 so children born before that wouldn’t have grown up with tablets and touchscreen technology.

YouTube started about 2005, Netflix and BBC iPlayer in 2007. So earlier generations wouldn’t have had streaming programmes to watch.

The vaccination programme was different. Hepatitis vaccine was recently added.

House prices went through the roof and fewer young people own property, so children nowadays are less likely to live in a privately owned home.

I was a teenager in the mid 00s and now work in a secondary school.
What about the advent of streaming online like Netflix and the like. They didn’t exist when I was teenager in the mid 00s
Smartphones
Had dial up internet . Couldn’t use landline and internet at same time. Perhaps more reliant on landline then.
Tv shows. Big brother when it was good. Friends was just finishing. The o.c. Other teen drama shows. Lots of home makeover and make you different shoes ( 10 year s younger, trinny and Susana, Gok wan how to look good naked)
GCSEs graded from a-d not numbers and more coursework
Nail varnish and beauty wasnt as big business fake tan and stuff.
Era of the celebrity for no reason was just dawning and it wasn’t fuelled by Social media.
Sure I can think of more

@TeenTimesTwo great point about gender. My 10yo can tell you that there are people born in the wrong body, and she made an LGBTQ+ logo for her phone screensaver yesterday. I don’t think that awareness was as early for my 19yo stepdaughter (though I wasn’t there). I think it’s interesting that my 10yo has that awareness before puberty, not after.

The 2000 will have lived through #metoo whilst the younger group will - one bloody hopes - expect not to suffer it. Though they will. But maybe they’ll identify it as the travesty it is, rather than feel guilt or shame.

Body positive - my 10yo accepts that as a “thing”, the 19yo has seen it develop.

She mainly wanted to discuss tech and how things have become more unsafe since the rise of modern terrorism. Keep the ideas coming thank you all so much again!

Ahh yes the #metoo thing. Definitely in the minds of the 2000s generation with them being teenagers and having to experience sexual assault etc. Hopefully in 10 years when the younger group are teens, it will be a thing of the past

Oh and smoking was banned in 2007 so before that babies might have been breathing smoke in cafes etc.

Children wouldn’t have had married same sex parents because gay marriage wasn’t legalised until about 2013.

Mobile Phones - just did snake and text! You could change the front cover to a different colour, no cameras.

Snake!!!!!!!
How good was snake?

It wasn’t assumed that you had internet. And society didn’t rely on it. Say sponsorship ; you had a sponsorship form which you had to put your name and your pledged amount; address and you ticked for gift aid nowadays it’s a just giving page. Online banking; online shopping was only just making a real appearance and hardly ever done. Amazon was just a bookshop.

My DC are 20 and 18. Niece and nephew are 5 and 3. I think there are quite a few differences.

When my DC were small, they played games on the PC, watched videos and later dvds hired from Blockbuster. DN and N play games on tablets or parents iPhones and watch films streamed from Netflix.

Weekends didn't seem to focus so much on entertaining the children when mine were young. I can't remember going to National Trust Properties regularly ever being a thing.

Everything seems to have a label now 'attachment parenting', 'baby led weaning, 'baby wearing' etc' I did all that, but instinctively, rather than it being a particular parenting style. I think that's probably due to the internet.

Tech and parental awareness

With DD (born 2005) I referred to a couple of books for pregnancy/parenting advice. Occasionally googled but was not that useful.

With DS (born 2011) couldn't even find the books. Yes I was second time mother - but if I wanted advice I went on-line for it.

Also when DD was born GF (who cannot be named and routine/ timetabled babies were all the thing (some woman who wrote a book called the BabyWhisperer I think - all about Eat, Activity, Sleep, You - or some such guff).

With DS attachment/baby led weaning much more relaxed stuff was coming in and routines were seen as dirty words!

Yy to the personalisation of phone covers. Remember phone charms. Flip phones were the in thing. The sassy snap close.
What about movies pop culture. Not as many sequels. Music at the time r’n’b indie rock. The last top of the pops was in 2006. How you access music has changed

She mainly wanted to discuss tech and how things have become more unsafe since the rise of modern terrorism.

See, I'm not seeing that as a difference between the two groups you are talking about.
I was bringing dc3 home from being born in hospital, as the twin towers were coming down, so she was obviously one of the older ones in this age group. I don't really think the one group's experience of life is any different from the others.

we didn’t get a proper flatscreen until the early 2010s, they had CDs/DVDs instead of iPads etc.

As I type, I am watching a 'big backed' TV , but yes, my dc had CDs / DVDs whereas now I guess dc are more likely to watch stuff on a phone or tablet.

I presume they have been given the title, but it really is too close an age group and too current a situation for their really to be a difference.

Smoking ban 2007

Does your mum researching your homework for you when you’re fully 15 years old count as one of the generational things she means?

All very valid points ^^ written them all down honestly thanks so so much, DD and I are very grateful

Yeah, I know 16 years isn’t a great big gap but they were provided with the title

@VioletCharlotte if I was writing the essay, I’d argue that your tech related paragraph wasn’t that much of a difference. Both groups were playing games on a screen and watching TV. Just the tech behind it was different. It’s not like, say - comparing boats games and books with tech. I don’t mean it in an argumentative way! Just don’t see it as a huge difference.

However, totally agree with you about the rise of labelling and impact on parenting. I was all those “baby wearing” and “BLW” things, but my husband never heard those terms for his 19yo. Mind you... even that was a difference for the parents rather than the children. He didn’t have a carrier, but other friends did, and his wife weaned with finger foods ASAP. So I’m not sure of the impact for the children.

It would be interesting to dive deeply into what the internet has done for parenting, and what that has done for the children. But then - for everyone person supported and empowered by internet sources - are there as many feeling shit because of Instamums?

My 5 and 2 year olds can choose whatever they want to watch via Sky On Demand and Netflix. It means you no longer need to have recorded a programme to watch it instantly. I think we currently have 144 episodes of Paw Patrol downloaded - I'm not sure there even are that many 🤣
This instant access to things has an effect on the demands of a child being able to be met. They can't quite understand why we only get two channel choices in the bedroom (old style tv).
What effect will this have in the future if they are not given any restrictions?

One massive difference that has directly affected children's lives is the rise of the anti vaccination movement.

For a parent to a kid born in 2000, the idea of your baby being at risk of measles, for example, would have been laughable in the developed world. Not so much any more.

Cyber bullying, or sharing posts/images virally can lead to prosecution now as opposed to a telling off etc

The increase in teen addictions to phones, games and social media defining how teens are influenced.

Seems like a cracking good essay to be writing too!

Also there has been a increase in flexible working/WFH - as tech/broadband etc have improved. This probably would probably mean it was from about 2010-15 (your DD could probably research some stats into it. But more working from home/compressed hours etc have probably impacted on parental "presence".

Though as PP said - the free nursery hours and the unrelenting pressure to get both parents working - this probably reduces parental "presence".

Rise of modern terrorism... what is her view on that? Many would say the Twin Towers heralded that. If you want to “UK” it, 7/7 was 2005 - the first group. I’d be interested in what your daughter thinks is the difference between the two groups.

My 10yo had a cousin (unharmed thank goodness) at the Ariana Grande concert. Both her and the 19yo know why their bags are checked entering any event now. But they’re equally aware yet simultaneously blasé about it.

@StringedBeans that was my point (about childcare funding) and I’ve just googled some research on it, and the increase in mothers to the labour market was estimated at 3%. Sweeping statement based on a quick google... but I think the 15 hours helped already working parents financially, but didn’t increase the working numbers hugely.

Which of course is what OP’s daughter should be googling Come on - we’re all working hard on her paper - let’s here more from the personally actually living this difference!

I have dc 16, 13, 5, 5 and 3.

Between the eldest and the youngest 3, that I can think of,

Tv - no on demand, no streaming, no YouTube, dvds were only just getting popular when dd1 was born, music was on CD, charts were sales of singles. CBeebies was there, but only if you had sky (We didn't), so we had 4 channels (no c5 either where we lived then). Kids tv was on bbc2 for a couple of hours in the morning, and bbc1 for a couple of hours after school.

Pubs - kids were allowed and almost encouraged in during the day, my youngest 3 have never set foot in a pub.

Smoking was still allowed in public places.

Dd1 was weaned at 15 weeks, the younger 3 waited till 6 months. Dd1 was weaned traditionally too, no blw then.

Food - lots of things that are common place now weren't then (certainly not in your big standard asda anyway!) - avocados, hummus, organic food.

Internet - we had dial up, many people had no internet at all. There was little social media, forums were few and far between, and populated by "geeks" generally. No online shopping, although I was shopping online with Iceland by the time dd1 was 3. There wasn't the wealth of information out there that there is now.

Vaccinations - Andrew Wakefield was still very influential when dd1 was born.

Maternity leave - longer and more generous now.

Childcare - the 15/30 hours stuff wasn't there as much, dd1 got 15 hours once she turned 3.5, dd3 could have had 15 hours since she turned 3, and could have 30 hours after summer.

Benefits - when dd1 was born, tax credits were literal tax credits, her dad got a new tax code which gave him a tax refund and extra money each pay. Tax credits (as we know it now) came in April 2003, and was an absolute shambles for months - I think we were 8 months before we got a payment. There was no benefit cap, no bedroom tax, no limit on the number of children.