To wonder how you could go on a cruise months after killing your 6 year old Great Grandson?

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Very upsetting article warning.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7218223/Stanley-Metcalfs-parents-relive-told-sons-twin-sister-died.html

On his Facebook there are pictures of him on a cruise holiday months later after he lied about what happened. I find it hard to fathom how any family members are on his side.

The shooting was a totally preventable accident but what he did afterwards was totally despicable IMO.

It says his wife was in the kitchen at the time of the event. I’m shocked she too was ok to head off on holidays. She doesn’t feel upset at what her husband did? I truly don’t understand.

What a tragic story.

Maybe they just wanted to get away from it all. Not have a holiday as such, but escape the situation for a while.

I guess the on-side family members rationalise that it was a pure and simple accident.

I’m guessing he’s a sociopath. His wife is probably trapped with him.

Nothing in that article about going on a cruise etc or what other family members may or may not thing. You're rubber necking on a Fb page for salacious gossip?

He's been tried. He's been convicted. The judicial process has run its course. No need to keep gum slapping and chewing the cud.

The cruise wasn’t the big problem, I’d say the worse one was the post on the Facebook saying ‘Life goes on’

For fucks sake, I've got tears in my eyes after reading that and I dont even like kids

Totally agree with you OP. So tragic for his parents and twin sister and the extended family that understand the grandfather was wrong.

othing in that article about going on a cruise etc or what other family members may or may not thing. You're rubber necking on a Fb page for salacious gossip?

The info on the cruise is right there in the article.

Maybe he has (frontotemporal) dementia?

The info on the cruise is right there in the article.

And the FB page is set to public, full of brexiteering and ‘England is for the English’ style posts.

Quite warms the ❤️.

I'll never understand this as long as I live. Something more going on I'm sure.

That poor little boy. How absolutely tragic

‘React’, not teach

I read this earlier. Absolutely awful. It was completely preventable. The poor boy asked to see his grandads gun, so he shows him it whilst pointing it directly at him, with the safety catch off, AND had the gun modified it in some way (without applying for a firearms license as he knew it wouldn't be granted). With all that in mind, he then decided to check if the safety catch was on by shooting it whilst pointing it directly at the poor boy.
He's not once apologised, and the poor mum and dad are left to deal with the fall out. Absolutely horrible story.

How on earth can you blame his parents for this?

If it was a total accident, then why was he convicted?

He’s an adult. He had an illegal firearm and he shot a child at point-blank range with it then lied about what happened.

He has never apologized for his actions and has never shown any remorse for what he did.

He deserves zero sympathy.

I don’t understand why the aunties have fallen out with the mother.

Even if she wanted to “turn the other cheek”, (understandably she didn’t) the decision to prosecute was not hers but the Crown’s.

The parents are in no way to blame for this. Entirely the grandfathers fault.

@BlackCatSleeping

I don’t blame the parents or have any sympathy for him. It goes without saying all the things he did wrong and is to blame for. It’s all there in the article.

But he isn’t the only one who could have prevented it happening.

Some older men are simply belligerent, cantankerous, selfish old know it alls. When you add that to disabilities both physical and mental you end up with a total liability who can’t be told and can’t find a shred of care if something goes wrong. I know, my dad is one of them.

I think that’s what’s happened here. He of course has not intended to kill or hurt the little boy. But when it has happened he’s too embarrassed about his own inadequacies that led to it happening to admit guilt or say sorry (which implies guilt).

Maybe he has (frontotemporal) dementia?

Or maybe he's a cunt ?

Sorry, but it's deeply offensive to all the real sufferers of dementia whenever someone tries to offer up a variant of dementia as a reason for acting like a cunt. Even a half-A4 summary page of statistics would demonstrate that the amount of cuntery excused by "dementia" would require 1 in 2 people to be suffering some form of dementia.

I'm too old and too ugly to be upset by much these days, but the story of that poor lads death had me blubbing on the bus. Even now, days later I'm welling up.

I think 'bollocks'. But the jury presumably thought an old man couldn't possibly do something awful and there were no witnesses other than the child.

You never point a weapon at anything you aren't intending to shoot. You certainly don't then discharge it whilst pointing it at said something to check if a safety was on. It's fucking obvious if it's on or not. And you don't leave it loaded, either.

There is no way when somebody knew firearms licensing requirements and how to get a firearm modified to the extent that it required a license that they were unaware of the fundamental rules of firearms safety - assume it's loaded, never point it at anything you don't intend to shoot, never pull the trigger if you don't intend to shoot something and DON'T FUCKING SHOOT CHILDREN.

His parents knew this man kept air rifles, that they were loaded and he used them for the purpose of shooting things.

How do you know that they knew the guns were kept loaded?

His parents knew this man kept air rifles, that they were loaded

It doesn't say in the article the parents knew he left the air rifle lying around loaded (or that it was illegally modified to be more powerful). It says the police told them.

Such a tragic story, a horrific accident caused by the grandfathers negligence. To try to place blame on the parents is abhorrent.

Anyway, the man is a dyed in the wool cunt, its his fault. He did it, he clearly has no fucks to give. Other people might have behaved badly, but he killed the boy.