That people working in state run jobs (educational staff, medical staff, emergency service people) etc should never need payday loans

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Shouldn’t the government be paying them enough so that they can “live” on their wage? Or do you think that they are they earning enough and is it just that they mis-manage their money?

It all depends. A nurse/teacher/paramedic may be fine and live well within their salary. Add a couple kids, a high rent area and an unexpected expense like car breakdown etc and suddenly it’s not enough. You could say that about most jobs though.

I think that they are mismanaging their money or having a bigger family than their wages could look after comfortably. There are many lower earners than those in education and nursing .
There are too many people , it’s a simple concept really . We have too many people for the jobs available therefore wages are kept low . Increasing wages will just drive up prices across the board .

We have too many people for the jobs available therefore wages are kept low .

There's a desperate shortage of teachers

The shortage of teachers is because of poor working conditions more so then the pay I should imagine .

And there are probably lots and lots of trained teachers , they’re just not employed as teachers because of the working conditions , pressures from ofsted, poor behaviour of pupils etc

YABU. It's no one's business, anyway.

I used to work for a well known high street chain of shops that did PDLs. My most regular customers were council and nhs staff

No they shouldn't but it depends on their circumstances, money management skills and good judgement in relation to other aspects of their lives. Often not good and not in keeping with the responsible jobs they hold.

Hit depends what you mean by 'live'.

Do you mean wages should pay enough to support the person earning them or enough to support the person earning them, subsidise their part time working spouse, and provide for a couple of kids?

I’m glad we’re not yet like the US where the overgrown toddler running the country can throw an almighty tantrum and shut down the government so thousands of government employees don’t get paid despite still doing their job because they can’t just not do it. Hopefully even boris Johnson won’t be able to do that here!

Councils and the government should pay a living wage of course, so should all employers. But if people work part time they’ll obviously take home less in total than working full time, people have unexpected expenses and no fallback, and sometimes people just make bad choices (I’m not judging, I made really bad financial choices in my 20s including spiralling pay day loans).

Why just state-run jobs? I'm of the persuasion that all work should pay.

so thousands of government employees don’t get paid despite still doing their job because they can’t just not do it

There's our mistake. If we're not being paid enough to live on, we shouldn't be doing the work. I fear your confidence in Boris Johnson not being able to do it here is misplaced as well. If he can get this free port idea through, he can get any other form of corruption through as well. The UK is finished.

& living in London or any of the expensive cities in the UK where housing costs are astronomical - or having hours cut - or starting the job at the lower end or where your housing benefit is cut or where you are transferred to Universal Credit (& that's a subject all on its own)