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That the lady in the Bank can't catch the Gay ?

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MrsGaryLightbody · 05/07/2019 14:31

Well that was a fun trip to the Bank.
Lady in front of me was obviously complaining but I only caught second half when I had started to feel itchy that I'd miss my bus .
Apparently the bank teller had personally changed her phone app to the rainbow flag and she didn't like it as she didn't want to catch The Gay .. I listened and admired the teller explain patiently that she hadn't done that personally but it was to celebrate pride. Customer then says well I'm not gay so take it off NOW ... pushing her mobile through the gap ... I so want to know how that ended but they opened another booth.. aibu to call bank and ask lol 😂

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Juells · 05/07/2019 17:53

NKFell

I am also bothered by this. I love how everyone giving an example of gay people they see on TV/hear on the radio are men.

It's because they're the only important ones.

AppleTartlet · 05/07/2019 17:57

It changed on everyone's app! The bank teller didn't do it and didn't do it to just the lady's app on her phone. The lady thought this was the case and wanted the teller to get it off( the teller never personally did it)

The lady may have been elderly, or intellectually challenged, or not very technologically aware. It's not a huge deal. It's easy for young people who've been raised with computers and mobile phones, and now apps, to take it in their stride. I spent the first part
of my adulthood without even a landline. Now I've got a smart phone. It's smarter than I am, to a degree. Younger people really have to start to take into account, and understand that there was a whole different world that existed before they were born. And if something you've just got the hang of suddenly changes, it throws you off kilter.

Gay people have always existed, it's nothing new. I've got friends who are gay going back 40 years. People are more educated nowadays so life for homosexuals has become more mainstream.

I've never had the slightest problem with an individual's sexuality.
They are just the person they are. However, I wish banks and others wouldn't fuck with my apps. I neither want nor need rainbows everywhere to advise me that I need to be woke. I am woke. And if I was not woke, but homophobic, the rainbows would just wind me up anyway.

I suspect that most posters here in support of OP have had a mobile phone since their early teens and are perfectly at home and comfortable with the technology that they grew up with. I didn't have a mobile phone until I was well past 40 and then it was just a brick sized gadget that only had the capacity to make and receive calls.
And mostly, it didn't work because the connections were a bit rubbish.

I can imagine that any older person who finds that their usual bank logo has changed might suspect that all is not well. And with the plethora of warnings about scams, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that they might be worried about being scammed.

I don't know the circumstances of the OP, obviously, I wasn't there.
But reading between the lines, I just see an elderly lady who's not really sure why the website has changed. And is worried enough to ask the bank teller about it.

I seriously doubt that she objected to the Rainbow implication.

SimonJT · 05/07/2019 18:03

@Ohbehave1 My parents genuinely think I caught it, the issue is people believing you can catch queerness often think you can cure it.

AppleTartlet · 05/07/2019 18:25

She indicated that she was not wanting the rainbow icon because she didn't want anything to do with THOSE people!

Even in that extreme case, her bank is her bank, and they are the people who look after her money. She's free to change her bank if she wants to.

Personally, I think you've egged it up a bit. And she's just an older woman who didn't understand the change. And asked about it.
And didn't understand so held the queue up a bit. And you were a bit pissed off with the slowness.

That's my take on this.

MitziK · 05/07/2019 18:27

Hopefully, somebody explained to her in very simple language (maybe with pictures?) that the way to avoid having that pesky symbol on her phone is to delete the app and then reinstall it afterwards.

Fibbke · 05/07/2019 18:28

Clare Balding is pretty visible.

LauderSyme · 05/07/2019 18:29

AppleTartlet Your serious doubts are misplaced, as the OP has consistently made clear. Everyone who has expressed sympathy for the poor, wee, confused elderly lady is mistaken. OP has posted several reiterations, such as this one:

"Ok I wasn't going to come back as so many people have missed the point but the customer WAS NOT elderly.
She indicated that she was not wanting the rainbow icon because she didn't want anything to do with THOSE people!"

Some people are vocally homophobic. It is interesting how many contributors to this thread are resistant to accepting that.

Soubriquet · 05/07/2019 18:36

None of these big businesses actually give a shit about pride

It’s about showing they are part of what’s going on as a token amount

ElizaPancakes · 05/07/2019 18:37

Just as an FYI Barclays has been a major Pride sponsor since 2014. Of course it’s bandwagon jumping but you know, it’s also the changing times.

I’m not a fan of Pride for all the reasons stated in this thread btw but I don’t object to a rainbow icon.

SarahAndQuack · 05/07/2019 18:49

Oh, FFS. I am a sodding lesbian.

Are you both lesbians, @CassianAndor and @Juells? If so, they you surely recognise that we're not the borg.

Ohbehave1 · 05/07/2019 18:59

The long and the short of it is that if you truly are a supporter of lgbt+ rights you won't have an issue with anything being rainbow. If you start to complain about it you are either suffering from a lack of your own privilege or your mask is slipping.

flamingnoravera · 05/07/2019 19:00

The rainbow app has ruined my carefully colour sorted apps screens. All my blue apps including Barclays are in the first screen, now I've had to move it to the multicolour page. Am I alone in sorting apps by colour?

AppleTartlet · 05/07/2019 19:13

Some people are vocally homophobic. It is interesting how many contributors to this thread are resistant to accepting that

Ok I wasn't going to come back as so many people have missed the point but the customer WAS NOT elderly

Yes of course I read that. However, this is a purely text based forum.
There are older people here who can read between the lines.
I know for sure that there are homophobic and racist people.
Even amongst my own acquaintances there are.

I suppose I just doubt that the lady was being homophobic rather that being unsettled because her app had changed. It's quite unsettling when you're not used to things changing, things outside your control. Especially your bank account.

Of course if this was a purely homophobic encounter then I'd be down on it like a ton of bricks. Completely unacceptable.

However, why would a bank change its logo when its going to confuse half its customers? Why do they need to trumpet their acceptance of homosexuals?

I have friends from way back who have same sex partners.
It's not new. It's not a new thing. We just accepted it as a tributary of the norm back in the day. It's really not anything new.

Even my bloody parents who'd both be over 100 years old if they were alive today would have said the same. Live and let live.

All this rainbow carry on is just balloons and trumpets.

I suppose, perhaps, I just haven't known any gay people who've encountered any major issues. But that in itself says something.

AppleTartlet · 05/07/2019 19:15

Maybe I've just lived in a bubble.

Ponoka7 · 05/07/2019 19:30

In the News, a man had to be removed by security and the Police called, because he'd bought a rainbow gnome and not realised what it symbolised.

He was returning it and kicked off because gnomes are gender and sexless.

There's nowt as queer as folk (but not gnomes).

sophiasnail · 05/07/2019 19:34

I am gay.... I also have no idea why we have to have rainbows everywhere - they certainly don't represent me and I have been happily civilly partnered for 10 years! I don't think all this pride nonsense helps to show the world we are "normal" people who just happen to fancy the same sex.

ElizaPancakes · 05/07/2019 19:47

@flamingnoravera they’re changing it back in a week or so

ElizaPancakes · 05/07/2019 19:47

So don’t mess all your icons up!

Hithere12 · 05/07/2019 19:49

I wouldn’t want my bank app to be a rainbow background 😫 I want it to be basic and boring. I wouldn’t want a sea side background either

peachgreen · 05/07/2019 20:13

This forum is fucking unbelievable at times. "Gays can get married now, I can name a famous lesbian and I don't know any gay people who have had any problems" so obviously homophobia doesn't exist any more and a woman insisting on removing a Pride icon from her phone because she didn't want to have anything to do with "those people" definitely isn't homophobic because gosh, if it had been, you'd all be so cross. Good Christ.

flamingnoravera · 05/07/2019 20:16

@ElizaPancakes thanks for the heads up, I will move it back to the blue page when it changes back! I am very colour focussed and it's the way I locate apps- I know what colour they are so I go to that screen. My books are filed in colour order too!

skybluee · 05/07/2019 20:20

To be honest I think it's amazing that big companies are like this now.

I remember a time when it was very very different.

And yes it is still needed.

metro.co.uk/search/#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=gay&gsc.sort=

A search in the Metro of the word "gay" brings up what's currently happening in the UK and worldwide. And a lot of it isn't pretty. It's pretty hateful.

TheBigBallOfOil · 05/07/2019 20:24

I’m not on the bandwagon with Prude anymore since the T got added to the LGB, to the particular detriment of the L.
So I don’t want to be made to join in. I’m consciously avoiding those companies making a big thing of it. It’s not something I want to support anymore.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 05/07/2019 20:43

This very day, lesbians at Pride have been refused entry, refused service at pubs and generally harassed by other male participants and representatives of Pride and Stonewall.

Their crime seems to have been saying they are female homosexuals attracted to other female homosexuals; and that lesbians do not have penises.

Lesbians.
At (what was called) Gay Pride.

The lesbophobia under that rainbow is disgusting.

AppleTartlet · 05/07/2019 20:45

The rainbow app has ruined my carefully colour sorted apps screens. All my blue apps including Barclays are in the first screen, now I've had to move it to the multicolour page. Am I alone in sorting apps by colour?

Well there you go. Homosexuals and bisexual people have been part of the fabric of my friends and my life for many years, without any worries, without any problems and without any public shouting or gesturing. I've never given it a second thought. My neighbour's female cousin has a wife. A woman I work with also has a wife.
It's pretty unremarkable to be honest. 30 years ago my best friends were a male couple. It's maybe a shift from the norm, but not enough to remark nowadays.

Rainbows, bells and whistles are not required. Nor are pride marches. I suppose they might be quite fun and a jolly celebration.
But really, I don't think it does bi or gay people any favours, to want to be singled out and make a big 'thing' of it.

None of my gay friends are remotely interested in pride marches.
They are just normal people. You can only do a march if mainstream is against you and you're fighting for your rights. Well, mostly, they're not. Nobody really cares who you live with. Honest. They don't.

There's really no need to go out and march for homosexual pride, any more than I'd go out and march for heterosexual pride. Pride marches, I feel, are counter productive. Why make a show of thinking you are so different? It's not a special thing, to be gay. It really isn't.
It falls within the norm.

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