I can't stop crying at the picture of the 2 year old El Salvadoran girl and her Father. [Edited by MNHQ at OP's request]

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I won't link to it as people can find it if they wish to. I wish I hadn't.

The 23 month old and her Father were trying to cross the Rio Grande in to the United States and drowned. Her arms were around his neck.

I saw it a few hours ago and just can't get it out of my head and help bursting in to tears.

I'm so ashamed of this country's government. The situation down there (and elsewhere of course) is heartbreaking. I'd like to go and volunteer as friends have but can't leave ds.

My friends who've been down there say it's actually played down on the news. Trump and his government should be tried for war crimes.

So then let’s all look at Mexico. They’ve taken a really dim view on those passing through to the US. Why aren’t they housing, feeding, and offering aid to these people? Why haven’t they been called out?

México is a developing country and can hardly be compared with the US in this situation. The majority of the migrants/asylum seekers are heading to the USA via Mexico.
Mexico has no financial system for helping the many millions of extremely impoverished people that live here (legally or not). Not all parts of Mexico are like the five star resorts of Cancun or Puerto Vallarta.
It is actually a difficult process to get a residency visa in Mexico though I've read that the new mexican president has offered to help asylum seekers get temporary visas relatively easy (easier than for those who are seeking normal residency visas).
Also Mexico relies heavily on trade with the US and with Trump threatening tariffs on Mexico exports to the US it is having a severe effect on business and the lives of ordinary Mexican workers (where incidentally the minimum DAILY wage is $5.10 USD per day and the average household monthly income is $843 USD...with no tax credits/family benefit/NHS etc) So Mexico has had to send more troops to the northern and southern border to stop illegal immigration.
I see immigrants from Central America all the time here begging for food or money at the traffic lights so I can tell you they're not all at the border, a lot are trying to settle here. And it's heartbreaking. Men and women with young children and babies, dirty and hungry and desperate. Communities here, although themselves poor, do what they can to help the immigrants (donating shoes, blankets, clothes, food) so to ask what is Mexico doing is unfair imo.

@Mexicoco absolutely. It's easy to pass comment when you're so far removed. I've spent a lot of time in the south and seeing the immigrants makes my heart bloody sad. People can shriek this way and that about whatever politics they like but when you see it, it just comes down to shock and sympathy.

It s a really upsetting image. It made me sob and certainly hug my two very tight when I saw it.
The saddest thing however is that it won't actually change anything.
There are kids in internment camps right now being treated appallingly.
I genuinely don't understand why more Americans aren't up in arms about that.

Firstly, yes people were talking about cases of children dying while trying to get to the U.K. - look back at the post I quoted. Hence my response. I don’t know what financial support is given to asylum seekers in America but I highly doubt it’s any better. Don’t be so coy - I mentioned what asylum seekers receive here because there are plenty of people parroting the lie that asylum seekers come to the UK and receive a house and loads of cash. It’s ludicrous.

Fannywork where did you get that drivel - Breitbart?

Here is the UNCHR fact sheet on Germany’s stats - I’ve never heard your statistic, please do back it up if you have any evidence that the UN made such a statement.
reliefweb.int/sites/reliefweb.int/files/resources/68105.pdf

Here is some actual information on the law, where people go and why
www.freemovement.org.uk/are-refugees-obliged-to-claim-asylum-in-the-first-safe-country-they-reach/

Refugees are NOT legally obliged to apply for asylum in the first “safe” place they reach. It’s simply not true.

These people can’t win. Either they go ahead to arrange safe passage for their families and they’re “single Male economic migrants”. They bring their children and they’re irresponsible bastards risking their children’s lives because they want more money.

Seriously, if you were fleeing war, if you’d seen neighbours, friends and family die, what would you do? Stick around? Be happy living in a disease ridden camp with your children?

If you’d fleed Syria and managed to get to Europe, would you be happy applying for asylum in a country that rejects the vast majority of claims? Would you want to risk being sent back after all you’ve been through? Wouldn’t you try to get to somewhere more likely to accept you and your family?

You can bang on about low expectations but in reality people who pursue this line of thinking are either lacking in the ability to empathise or they’re unable to think about these people are human beings, parents, spouses, people with lives. I’d do whatever I had to do for my children, as would any decent parent.

As for the suggestion that they just want to get to somewhere they can have a decent quality of life, maybe a home and a job... how dare they? The nerve of wanting what all of us take for granted.

And the photos - do you say the same for those who photographed the concentration camps prior to liberation? Actual people in the camps. Thank goodness they did, there are enough people denying it happened as it is, just as there are people here claiming this is staged.

You speak for your self. If you think that story would have raised such a clamour, and galavinsed so many had been an African black child face down on the beach then you are very naive, and have forgotten about your 'racist, Daily Mail reading Grandma.' types you talked about earlier.

And yes I do find it ironic that you outright accused another poster of being racist then accused me of saying you were one.

I agree with an earlier poster that Merle opening the floodgates was a very bad idea. A lot of young men who weren’t even from war zones ended up in quite rural parts of Germany and they did commit some quite awful crimes (eg a gang rape in Freiburg). This caused a lot of negative press and a backlash which actually harmed immigrant communities there, especially in The South, where traditionally people are more conservative.
I think that the British approach taking the most needy from Syrian camps is the right way to go. It cuts out people traffickers and economic migrants (usually young men) and ensure that people such as the Yazhidi sexism slaves stand a chance of getting help rather than being further abused while they try to get to safety.
It’s a very difficult balance to help people who need it most while not encouraging people to make a very dangerous journey

I came off fb when some friends did not even batter an eyelid when the child in the soldiers arms ( poor little mite 😥😥) was shown to national press about 4 years ago .. refugees ... I was distraught and rang hubby ... could hardly talk .. I was on the verge of deleting FB anyway and this finished me off that nobody felt the same upset or even a smidgen of emotion about it ...I still get choked now and the new image ... totally harrowing and heartbreaking