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Scout Pride Parade -to not allow ds to go

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BigWide · 26/06/2019 15:28

My 10 year old boy scout has had a lot of pressure on him to join in a scout Pride Parade (ie a float in the main LBGQT+ Parade) and I've told him we are busy that weekend but he has had a lot of questions at scouts and I have just had an email asking why he isn't going.

AIBU to think this isn't a place for children, I've been to several Prides (and had a bloody good time) but all have been alcohol fuelled and adult orientated, I would have no problem if we were just watching as could get away if needed but by being in the parade and the field at the end they will. we unable to get away and there for four hours.
I completely support Pride and a person's right to love and be whoever they want, and they have been to my cousins gay wedding but I don't feel comfortable sending them to an adults carnival.

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Drum2018 · 26/06/2019 17:12

If you want to bother replying (not sure I would) send a very short email back saying 'as previously advised, Ds is not available for the float in the upcoming parade.' No further explanation needed. They have a cheek asking why he's not going - tell them a policeman wouldn't ask you that! (Sounds better in Ireland when you say 'Jesus, a Guard wouldn't ask me that!' )

jenthelibrarian · 26/06/2019 17:19

In my experience Scout leaders can be very, very pushy about attendance at events like this.
My politely worded letters, with reasons for not going to things, soon turned into very terse little notes along the lines of 'Secondborn child will not be at this event'.

Toddlerteaplease · 26/06/2019 17:20

I got absolutely flames on another post the other day for not being a pride supporter. I don't really see why it's necessary. And I am absolutely supportive of LGB etc issues.

msmith501 · 26/06/2019 17:22

Might be worth turning the question around and asking why it is so imperative that your dc attend and specifically why they are pressurising / harassing you to go. You can make the point of being a supporter of people's rights to choose but a bit like religion, it's not necessary to attend church every week to be a decent person.

OddBoots · 26/06/2019 17:27

YANBU, dd is gay but won't go to most Pride events as they seem to be more about the fetish than about accepting that same sex attraction is as valid as opposite sex attraction. We have found and attend a Pride event nearish us that is family friendly but that seems to be rare these days.

LondonJax · 26/06/2019 17:29

It shouldn't matter why you don't want or can't let DS go. It's your decision - end of story. You shouldn't have to explain your decision to anyone.

Juells · 26/06/2019 17:30

isthatapugunicorn
YABU, Pride parades represent all aspects of the LGBT community and their supporters. there are floats with kids, family groups, older LGBT people, choirs, church grps which show how we gays are just like everyone else.

That'd be a No from me. I wouldn't allow children within a mile of a Pride parade nowadays, it's all kink and fetish.

Scout Pride Parade -to not allow ds to go

HollowTalk · 26/06/2019 17:31

I'd send them the link to the guy with an erection who was dressed as a dog.

Juells · 26/06/2019 17:32

...and I wouldn't support Pride on principle nowadays because of their treatment of lesbians.

slipperywhensparticus · 26/06/2019 17:36

Although I support the principle I would not take my children it's never really been a kids event

Mummadeeze · 26/06/2019 17:36

I nearly took my 9 year old on a float in the London parade last year but changed my mind at the last minute because I wanted to let my hair down and go without her. I was quite glad I did when I was there because there is a quite a lot of alcohol being consumed, it is quite crowded and I actually don’t think she would have enjoyed it that much. So I don’t think you are being unreasonable either (and I am a big supporter of gay rights and equality).

QueenofallIsee · 26/06/2019 17:38

I was literally just reading an article on social media (US survey but still relevant) that the percentage 18-24 yr olds describing themselves as LGB allies has dropped again 3rd year running. I am absolutely certain it is because events like Pride have regressed public thinking into conflating deviance with same sex attraction. I se no link between BDSM fetish and gay rights but pride does! Oh and my DD is Gay so this is not a homophobic thing...love who you like and I’ll march for your right to do so, but I don’t want my children observing fetish wear or people on leads thanks

TwoPupsAndaHamster · 26/06/2019 17:39

'Pride' is no longer proud.It is just a parade for certain people to show off their fetishes in broad daylight

Yes this is what I think. I took my children, throughout years, to Pride. We all had a wonderful time.

I will not be taking my grandchildren to witness various fetishes. This is not what Pride is about. No child needs to witness that.

Iggly · 26/06/2019 17:40

YANBU

I’m a member of a scouting group and would never encourage this!

Reith · 26/06/2019 17:42

This really surprises me. The Pride event in my city is very family friendly. Lots of community groups, services etc in the parade. The odd drag queen that may provoke a question and only carnival dancers showing a bit of flesh.

chocolatemademefat · 26/06/2019 17:45

My DS1 is gay and has gone to several marches but doesn’t go now. It’s too ‘out there’ for him as a gay man who doesn’t feel the need to advertise his sexuality.

I wouldn’t be taking children to pride as I believe it’s for adults. I can think of much better family days out.

Miljah · 26/06/2019 17:47

I have sympathy for the LGB people who just want to live their lives just like the 'rest of us', except for being more attracted to their own sex, or both, rather than the opposite.

I think the strides we, as a society have made towards this greater equality are being sabotaged by this whole 'woke' nonsense; how Pride is turning into a fetish parade, and how self-ID trans are causing grief to fully trans'ed people who have lived quietly among us for years with no fuss.

RosaWaiting · 26/06/2019 17:51

It’s really interesting that pp says she took her kids but won’t take grandchildren

How did such a lovely thing go so wrong? Meh. I miss the days Pride was a happy occasion.

Miljah · 26/06/2019 17:56

Yes, I used to go to the Gay Mardi Gras in Sydney decades ago. It was a little risque but I would have taken a 10 year old along as it was quite a spectacle. I wonder what it's like now? Hope that hasn't been hijacked, too- tho as a tourist attraction, I guess the authorities would have clamped down if it got too lewd or fetishistic.

isthatapugunicorn · 26/06/2019 17:59

‘It’s all kink and fetish’?? Seriously? I’ve been to parades in London,Brighton, Wales , Glasgow and Belfast in the last year and it sure as hell wasnt all ‘kink and fetish’.

Salzi · 26/06/2019 18:00

No you're not being unreasonable. This movement went from "don't you dare mins what we do in our own room! Let us marry!" To "bring your kids along to our march where we wear dildo suits and display absolute vulgarity, bigot!"

isthatapugunicorn · 26/06/2019 18:00

The stereotyping in this thread is absolutely disgraceful and ridiculous.

mindutopia · 26/06/2019 18:03

I would absolutely allow mine to go (actually I think it’s fantastic they’re making the offer). I was thinking about taking my 6 & 1 year old this year. My religious group marched in Pride several years ago. But it’s also fine that you don’t want to go and you’ve said you’re busy, so that’s fine too.

Fromage · 26/06/2019 18:06

@Juells I wouldn't support Pride on principle nowadays because of their treatment of lesbians

Me too, sadly.

I've been to several Prides in several places, but for the most part they weren't suitable for children. In all honesty, why are we even talking about children attending an event about - and rightly celebrating - sexuality?

We don't expect children to be in the mosh pit at festivals, there's kids' stuff going on at lots of them too - I have no knowledge of Pride doing this so can anyone enlighten me?

I think it would be great for children to be at Pride if they could market it for children and shield them from the kinky people on display. It's great for children to know other families might be different to theirs and that 'family' doesn't just mean Mum, Dad, Son, Daughter, cat/dog/goldfish.

feelingverylazytoday · 26/06/2019 18:21

No, I wouldn't allow my kids to attend and I wouldn't attend myself.

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