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to be a little perturbed to have discovered that my next door neighbour is a Creationist?

276 replies

Greensleeves · 25/06/2019 22:59

DH overheard our next door neighbour having a row with his wife in the back garden yesterday. He was insisting - belligerently - that the Earth is 6000 years old, Stephen Hawking was an idiot and the moon landing was faked. His wife was cackling and saying things like "but it's basic GCSE physics!".

For the avoidance of dripfeed: he's a dour, ill-mannered git who bellows at his kids all weekend and lets his dog shit on our drive.

OP posts:
isabellerossignol · 26/06/2019 11:35

With regards to Adam and Eve and their sons, I was taught at Sunday school that they had loads of daughters too. It's just that women weren't important enough to be named in the Bible unless they did something of note...

Still didn't stop me from getting a stern telling off for wondering why people were marrying their sisters. Hmm My experience of evangelical Sunday school was that any awkward questions were brushed off with 'it's Satan who is making you question this, he wants to plant doubt in your mind, and the fact that you are questioning this is proof that he is getting into your head'. Which is all quite frightening when you're a child who is curious about the world.

viques · 26/06/2019 11:36

. I have an otherwise intelligent, funny, well read friend who believes all sorts of weird stuff because she is a Jehovahs Witness. We choose not to discuss certain things. As others have said he sounds as though he would be an unpleasant fool no matter what his beliefs. Just be thankful you are not married to him.

And tell him to clear up his dog shit or you will be summoning Satan from his fiery kingdom and asking him to do a bit of smoting on your behalf.

Oliversmumsarmy · 26/06/2019 11:43

There really is no excuse to think the world is 6000 years old and that the entire universe was created in 6 days

But if God didn’t create the Sun and the Moon till the “4th day”

How could anyone tell how long the 1st 2nd and 3rd “days” were. They could have been billions of years long

TheClitterati · 26/06/2019 11:45

I* thought they had 3 sons, Cain, Abel and Seth........*
*
but* Seth was a TW and therefore was responsible for birthing the next generation

TheClitterati · 26/06/2019 11:46

Bold fail Bear

araiwa · 26/06/2019 11:50

He created light on the first day, creating day and night

Yet he created the stars on the 4th day

So no idea where this light was coming from in the first 3 days.

Macca84 · 26/06/2019 11:53

I'd love to see the ending of religion and all the ridiculous ideas that come with it. It's absolute madness what some folk will believe 😂

ineedaknittedhat · 26/06/2019 11:58

My sil has a science degree from a good university and a very good job and she's a creationist. She also believes fossils were planted by satan to deceive people into believing in evolution.

I can't take people like this seriously.

NotBadConsidering · 26/06/2019 12:11

Judgement Day arrives and God summons all humans before him. In a booming voice he says:

“Listen, I created all of the known Universe, the Earth and all creatures. I also created you humans. I gave you the power of critical thought. I gave you the ability to analyse evidence and reason. I deliberately made the Universe and Earth to be a test. There was never any evidence for my existence. You were supposed to come to conclusion that I didn’t exist. You were supposed to use the power of rational thought I gave you to be atheists. So all those who decided in their lives that I didn’t exist, congratulations! You’ve earned your place in Heaven. And all those who wasted their brains and rational thought to come up with wild speculations as to my form, power and appearance, you’ve failed, sorry”.

And God smote those believers, casting them into eternal Hell, while those Rational Thinkers lived in Eternal Glory.

Amen.

honeygirlz · 26/06/2019 12:13

And God smote those believers, casting them into eternal Hell, while those Rational Thinkers lived in Eternal Glory.

Ah well, you can't have it all. At least we were right though 😂

MadImFurious · 26/06/2019 12:33

he's a dour, ill-mannered git who bellows at his kids all weekend and lets his dog shit on our drive.

This bit seems more important. Nice people also share batshit beliefs.

Woody68 · 26/06/2019 13:08

Why are you perturbed. Wtf difference does it make to you??

codemonkey · 26/06/2019 15:03

*Well, not exactly. A creationist is a person who believes that the universe and living organisms originate from specific acts of divine creation.

So, that makes me a creationist. The definition references neither the moon landings nor the age of the earth. The reason that I struggle with the Big Bang theory? If there was nothing, what caused the bang?

I believe in science. And engineering. And modern life.

I completely reject the concept that faith and science are mutually exclusive . Some very famous scientists are not prepared to categorically state that there is no divine being (God).*

I wouldn't call this creationism. I think that's what most rational monotheists believe. Surely creationism is a rejection of evolution by natural selection? A PP has said as much too.

codemonkey · 26/06/2019 15:05

My best friend is a flat Earther and major conspiracy theorist. I have listened to him ramble on rather extensively but I don’t agree with a single word of it

You're a much better person than me. I think I'd have shot him.

MulticolourMophead · 26/06/2019 15:07

I caused a Creationist to explode once.

I asked him what made him think a year for God was the same amount of time as a year for humans.........

Seems the Brahmins of India believe a year for Brahma equals more than 300 trillion years.

codemonkey · 26/06/2019 15:08

Further to my post two above, creationism has to be opposed to evolution because that's what causes hoohah. That children are being taught it as a bona fide alternative theory to evolution. Which it's not of course.

If creationism is simply that God caused the big bang I can't see many people getting aerated about that. It's not like science has any definitive answers to that one yet.

RomanyQueen · 26/06/2019 15:13

Post his dogs shit through his letter box, let him be creative with that. Dirty bastard.

EKGEMS · 26/06/2019 15:17

Oh good grief and if you discover they prefer margarine to butter what'll happen you have them drawn and quartered?

IceCreamSoda99 · 26/06/2019 16:20

I doubt a creationist would marry a non-creation who laughed at their beliefs, nor would they get to the point that they had children with them before having this argument Hmm

AwdBovril · 26/06/2019 16:25

I know a creationist who got a first in their science-based degree. The contradiction baffles me.

I like the idea of posting the dog mess back through his letterbox.

RandomNameChange415 · 26/06/2019 16:34

This guy doesn’t sound like a Christian with minority religious views. He sounds like a conspiracy theorist with increasingly serious personality problems whose wife should run for the hills with the DC.

Anyway, just because nobody’s said it yet:
Christianity and Creationism are not synonymous.
Evolution by natural selection is endorsed by both the Roman Catholic and Anglican Church.
Darwin was buried in Westminster Abbey with full honours/

Bluerussian · 26/06/2019 16:37

Be thankful he doesn't believe the earth is flat.

crosstalk · 26/06/2019 20:24

Where did all the hate come from? I've understood a bit more about creationism and its differences but not why people are advocating OP posts dog poo back through his letterbox which is appalling. She should just speak to him about dog poo. And possibly ask him to stop shouting at his children if it disturbs her Or speak to his wife who may be the person to approach.

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73kittycat73 · 26/06/2019 20:52

Hi @TheClitterati What's a TW if you don't mind me asking?