AIBU to think Harry and Meghan are taking the piss?

[ohymygodbethenny]

How are people not more outraged? And no, tourists do not visit the UK specifically because of the royal family.

"This year, 320,000 people were recorded as homeless in Britain"

The accusations on my part are simply due to well documented patterns of behaviour and the repeated mention of MM over and above others who have behaved no differently or much worse. Whilst KM was slated once-upon-a-time, why is she suddenly popular by comparison? It seems that posters who don't like MM are inadvertently painting themselves as shallow and cruel in their attempt to not appear racist. So you'd rather argue "we gave KM a hard time too, it's what we do to all newcomers"?

As for slyly putting down KM - how else can a poster highlight the fact that others in the RF are no better? She's a good example to use being a high profile woman of similar age and married to the other brother.

Agree @Ghanagirl. The comments about Meghan or Serena Williams and Diane Aboott are always far more vitriolic than those reserved for other women in the public eye. But people will never admit it as they think racism is a burning cross or the EDL and they don't realise the impact of microaggressions or dog whistle racism.

I'd genuinely like to know:

People who dislike MM, do you dislike the DoE more than her or less?

@Ghanagirl
Please point out where I said that.
Oh that's right, I didn't.

I stand by what I said, people are hurling racism accusations at anybody who disagrees with them.
As I said it is quite possible to take a dislike to someone without it being racist.

I personally think it comes across more like jealousy than racism.
A beautiful woman who has bagged her real life prince.
Even then that won't be the case for everyone who doesn't like Meghan, some people just don't like someone for whatever reason. That's life and doesn't mean someone is racist.
The amount of abuse Kate got before Meghan came along was horrendous too (and let's be honest, she still gets it mainly from the "Meghan fans") only now Meghan is in the firing line.
I don't get it but its what happens.
Look at all the shit Fergie got when she came along and that was without social media.
It wasn't racist was it?
No it was just the ugly side of human nature.

As I said these constant accusations of racism really undermine genuine racism IMHO.

It isn't really for non-POC to tell POC what "genuine racism" is.

@PineappleFwitters
Bit of a silly comment when you don't know the skin colour of a poster.

Well I'll take it back if all the posters who talking about "genuine racism" or "playing the racism card" are indeed POC.

In another discussion it was said by posters who are now accusing others of racism that MM wasn't beyond reproach and that it was fine to criticise her for things that other royals are also criticised for. So in very recent memory W and K were slated for their renovation costs, there was a petition to stop Eugenie having a carriage ride after her wedding because of the security costs, the Queen was savaged both in the media and online for the tone deaf gold piano. And now H and M are being criticised for their spending. A perfectly legitimate discussion given the cost and their position, and one that has occurred with several other royals only now it's racist. It would appear some posters do actually think MM should be beyond reproach after all.

I've often seen MM criticised for having been divorced. So was the current Spanish queen yet she seems to be admired by fans of the rest of the British royal family. I think she also had a big white second wedding (I could be wrong about this).

MM has, IMO, shown a lack of sensitivity towards ordinary Brits by wearing hugely expensive clothes. However, I'm not so naive to believe that the rest of the high profile royals don't enjoy equal luxuries. It's just that they're better at keeping it quiet and it doesn't get reported in the media.

Bit of a silly comment when you don't know the skin colour of a poster.
Is this the part where you suddenly announce your black.*
A Mumsnet classic...

@allibaby
That’s for you

Why do you think MM should be exempt from criticism Ghanagirl? Why do you think it's okay to label somebody a 'racist arsehole' without any evidence? I posted about Eugenie's carriage ride at the time and how it was a bad PR move, tone deaf and stupidly expensive. I feel the same about H and M's move to Frogmore given the massive additional security costs it entails. Why is one fine to discuss but the other should be derailed and shut down?

@ghanagirl get your facts right. Everyone DID criticise Kate and William on here when they overspent. That was in the past. This is current. I am the least racist person out there. If I have ever heard anything mildly racist in the past, I have stood up for the person. Colour has nothing to do with it. I love everything that Michelle Obama stands for as a person. I read her book - she is amazing. I dislike Meghan because there are lots and lots of stories about her treating people cruelly, cutting people off and being a social climber

@Ghanagirl
No it's not as I never feel the need to announce my skin colour to strangers on an Internet forum.
Mainly because it's none of your damn business.

I don't however presume to know the colour of posters skin and make presumptuous comments on something I have no idea about.

@allibaby
When talking about racism of course your skin colour is important.
Some posters have form for saying racist things and when called suddenly claim they are black or married to someone black.

What is racist about scrutinising the spending of the RF, something that has always happened?

Ah yes, Michelle Obama and the whole "worthy black person" trope 🙄

I dislike Meghan because there are lots and lots of stories about her treating people cruelly, cutting people off and being a social climber

The evidence for all this beyond stories that have appeared in the Sun or Daily Mail?

@Ghanagirl
I get that but as I haven't said anything racist my skin colour is irrelevant.

Or are you accusing me of being racist now?

If there are any people of other ethnicities on here: I am not disputing or trivialising that racism is a problem. I understand that it is a massive social issue. However it is possible to dislike Meghan and not be racist. She is not coming across well lately. The media do tend to turn on women who marry into the royal family so i will have to take that into account too. Poor fergie has only just been reserected

When people are called racist arseholes for expressing a mild opinion on a public figure they probably feel defensive and forced to try to prove they aren't racist, and then that also apparently makes them racist. Race wasn't brought up in this thread until the usual derailers who attempt to shut down any discussion on MM whilst also denying that she should be immune from criticism. I'm a republican, I don't want a world where certain members of the RF are beyond reproach thanks.

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I dislike Meghan because there are lots and lots of stories about her treating people cruelly, cutting people off and being a social climber"

there are lots and lots of stories about her treating people cruelly, cutting people off and being a social climber

And there don’t appear to be any actual substance to any of those stories. Can you supply any details?

Oh wait, Piers Morgan says it so it must be true!

@LaurieMarlow who cuts off their Dad? Normally. What did he do - talk to the press? Princess Diana talked to the press loads of times. I think that meghan is very cruel to her father

Piers Morgan is well-pissed off he never graduated from a casual acquaintance to a friend (so he could get insider gossip).