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Man-handling climate change protestors

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Leafyhouse · 20/06/2019 23:17

Anyone else watch with horror as a climate change protestor was forcefully removed by Mark Field from the Mansion House speech? I mean, I'm no fan of political activism, 'direct action' and so on, but she wasn't presenting him with any direct threat, just shouting and being annoying. AIBU to think that his behaviour was totally unacceptable there?

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Beingnicetomyself · 21/06/2019 11:13

"In other democratic countries you would be shot in the head." I'm not sure we should be basing our judgments re this issue on comparisons with those sorts of countries!

PinkieTuscadero · 21/06/2019 11:14

Oh god, do we have to turn this into an “abuse of women” issue? I’ve no doubt he would have done exactly the same thing I’d the protestor had been male. Aren’t we all supposed to be treated equally?

And yet the big burly man who angrily protested at Esther McVey's leadership launch was barely touched. Wow, it's almost as though there are different standards Shock

Beingnicetomyself · 21/06/2019 11:14

(and even in the US I think it's highly unlikely she'd have been shot it the head..)

Oliversmumsarmy · 21/06/2019 11:15

He was a lot bigger than her, he could easily have stood and barred her way

And she could have drawn a knife and stabbed him.

Gamble66 · 21/06/2019 11:16

I think it actually shows how crap security round political figure is and no we are not America but I do think security details particularly after incidents like this increasing will move to being armed and more direct intervention.

PanGalaticGargleBlaster · 21/06/2019 11:16

It was perfectly obvious that she wasn't a physical threat.

There is absolutely no way you can determine that. She may well have only been intending to shout some slogans or present her case to Phillip Hammond but if you break thorugh a security cordon and try to confront a government minister, you need to accept people will start from the assumption you mean harm and then work backwards from there rather than the other way around.

Buster72 · 21/06/2019 11:17

How good was the security? Pretty rubbish by the look of it. If it had been up to the job, the protesters wouldn’t have been there in the first place.

so a lack of security is an excuse to trespass

And a paid security guard should have stopped her before that point.

how? By using force of course

Please see the longer video on the BBC it puts this into context.

PinkieTuscadero · 21/06/2019 11:18

So many women on MN desperate to excuse male violence in such an impassioned way. I'm sure wife beaters the land over applaud you.

Gamble66 · 21/06/2019 11:18

Actually I don't know if they are increasing so a stupid stament

CassianAndor · 21/06/2019 11:18

And she could have drawn a knife and stabbed him.

in which case he shouldn't have got involved at all if he thought that was a possibility.

The look on his face suggest that he simply thought she was lower than the shit on his shoe. He wasn't scared of he, he despised her.

ShatnersWig · 21/06/2019 11:20

So many women on MN desperate to excuse male violence in such an impassioned way. I'm sure wife beaters the land over applaud you.

There are no words.

PanGalaticGargleBlaster · 21/06/2019 11:22

So many women on MN desperate to excuse male violence in such an impassioned way. I'm sure wife beaters the land over applaud you.

Mornoic post.

Pedallleur · 21/06/2019 11:22

Did she break through a cordon? I only saw the protestors at the back of the room. Hammond was looking towards the back and was then advised to sit down and wait. 0:52
Cant see any knives, suicide handbags.

PinkieTuscadero · 21/06/2019 11:22

'mornoic'

Oh the irony.

Alsohuman · 21/06/2019 11:23

Indeed.

Bujinkhal · 21/06/2019 11:24

I'm surprised so little happened to her.

If I personally invaded a private event full of MPs with the chancellor speaking at the top table, started shouting and attempted to reach him, honestly I'd expect to be shot.

bellinisurge · 21/06/2019 11:25

Ridiculous to liken this to domestic violence . If you broke into say a family wedding I was at or a knitting circle in a parish hall, hurled abuse at me and approached me as you were doing so, I would kick the shit out of you and worry about being sacked or sued later.

PinkieTuscadero · 21/06/2019 11:25

honestly I'd expect to be shot

Would you, dear?

BigChocFrenzy · 21/06/2019 11:26

An MP who gets angry and takes the law into his own hands is an idiot
He risks facing charges

He looked furious; she looked smug

If they'd paid him to publicise their cause, he couldn't have done better

Pedallleur · 21/06/2019 11:26

In this clip, the protesters are escorted away firmly but politely and towards the end a large man puts his arms around a woman but his hands are in view. he keeps her from moving forwards and he hasnt pushed her against a pillar or grabbed her by the neck. I'd say he is using a more appropriate response

ShatnersWig · 21/06/2019 11:28

@Pinkie Do you seriously think that anyone on this thread would condone or defend Field if he had gone up to a female protester in the street outside the building and punched her in the face? Because that's what you're implying and it's arrant nonsense.

Alsohuman · 21/06/2019 11:28

@PinkieTuscadero, I think I love you.

bellinisurge · 21/06/2019 11:29

Would a female MP have been suspended?

Beingnicetomyself · 21/06/2019 11:29

Sorry if I've missed this but could someone please post a link to the longer BBC clip? Thanks

mbosnz · 21/06/2019 11:29

However, the Tories stock is so high at the moment, I'm sure this doesn't impact on how either he or others in the party appear to feel totally entitled to behave with reference to those they perceive as inferior, and a nuisance. . . [hmmm]