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Man-handling climate change protestors

999 replies

Leafyhouse · 20/06/2019 23:17

Anyone else watch with horror as a climate change protestor was forcefully removed by Mark Field from the Mansion House speech? I mean, I'm no fan of political activism, 'direct action' and so on, but she wasn't presenting him with any direct threat, just shouting and being annoying. AIBU to think that his behaviour was totally unacceptable there?

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LucilleBluth · 21/06/2019 10:51

Add me to the people who are shocked that posters are defending him. Women are well and truly fucked aren't we. We can't do anything, protest, exsist, have opinions...because if we do someone will slam us against a concrete post and frogmarch us away by the neck.

Also the climate change protesters will come down on the right side of history. Give it a few hundred years.

FiddlesticksAkimbo · 21/06/2019 10:52

We can't do anything, protest, exsist, have opinions...because if we do someone will slam us against a concrete post and frogmarch us away by the neck.

Protest lawfully - you'll be fine!

BarbarianMum · 21/06/2019 10:54

Jo Cox died because she was attacked by a dangerous man, not because she was in a roomfull of people when a peaceful Climate Change protest occurred. The circumstances really bear no comparison.

bellinisurge · 21/06/2019 10:56

Jo Brand last week made a "joke" about flinging battery acid at people you disagree with.
This is the climate we are in. The protesters knew that.
No, man handling women is obviously dreadful. So is posing a physical threat to an elected representative.
If the MP had been a Labour woman and the protester had been some gammon bloke I would say the same thing.

PanGalaticGargleBlaster · 21/06/2019 10:58

We can't do anything, protest, exsist, have opinions...

You can do all of those things. What you can't do is expect to evade security at a private event and march up to a government minister without any consequences. That goes for men as well.

PanGalaticGargleBlaster · 21/06/2019 11:01

a peaceful Climate Change protest

Well it clearly wasn't peaceful, they gatecrashed and disrupted a private event.

LucilleBluth · 21/06/2019 11:01

Protesters disrupt. It's a tradition as old as dissent itself. It doesn't mean you can manhandle people. It was perfectly obvious that she wasn't a physical threat.

Alsohuman · 21/06/2019 11:04

How good was the security? Pretty rubbish by the look of it. If it had been up to the job, the protesters wouldn’t have been there in the first place. And a paid security guard should have stopped her before that point.

It’s not long since the collective misandry of MN was up in arms because a guy threw a cup cake at his wife (it missed) but a physical assault’s OK because she might have had a gun or a knife or some acid. If he’d seriously thought that he wouldn’t have gone anywhere near her, he’d have let her walk past.

BasilTheGreat · 21/06/2019 11:04

I think he did the right thing. She was getting really close to the Chancellor. If you decide to do things like this you have to be ready to take the heat. Would you have said the same thing in the case of Jo Cox? I’ve heard he apologised, that should be enough. I haven’t heard an apology from this woman though, for her behaviour.

Gamble66 · 21/06/2019 11:05

If she is a woman and therefore no threat is used here it only plays to gender stereotypes and women knowing thier place.
We can do what the fuck we like as women but that also means being tested like an adult human being not a fragile fluffy wuffy girl who wouldn't hurt a fly.

Gamble66 · 21/06/2019 11:05

Treated not tested

ShatnersWig · 21/06/2019 11:06

We can't do anything, protest, exsist, have opinions...

@LucilleBluth You think had the protesters stayed outside the building, on the pavements, waving placards and shouting slogans, Field would have grabbed them, turned them around, then frogmarched them down the road by the neck?

Alsohuman · 21/06/2019 11:06

You clearly don’t understand what peaceful means @PanGalaticGargleBlaster.

Oliversmumsarmy · 21/06/2019 11:06

We can't do anything, protest, exsist, have opinions...because if we do someone will slam us against a concrete post and frogmarch us away by the neck

This was trespassing. You can protest, exist and have an opinion just don’t invade a room of MPs and expect to be asked politely to leave.

Also the climate change protesters will come down on the right side of history. Give it a few hundred years

I am sure you are right but it doesnt mean this incident was right.

If anything I think it has done more harm than good

This incident makes them out to be unimaginably stupid.

I would have expected worse to happen to them and I think they got away with what they did very lightly.

The world has moved on from when people invading a tv studio or a place of work or a private dinner were only there to protest and the presenters and work force knew that was all they were there for.

Now they could have a bomb, gun or knife and no one wants to take the chance.

bellinisurge · 21/06/2019 11:07

There are laws on protest in public places. That's where you protest. Break into a private event and approach an MP with menace. In other democratic countries you would be shot in the head.

imamearcat · 21/06/2019 11:08

He looks like he's done that before!

PinkieTuscadero · 21/06/2019 11:08

People defending Field's actions are utter trash.

PettyContractor · 21/06/2019 11:08

If someone trespasses despite due warning the practical remedy is to ask them to leave.

In this context, everyone involved knew their presence there was unwanted. Actually asking them to leave seems like a silly and superfluous formality.

CassianAndor · 21/06/2019 11:09

Just watched the video, he looks deranged. He was a lot bigger than her, he could easily have stood and barred her way without flinging her into a pillar, pushing her like that and then marching her out with his hand on her neck.

His absolute contempt for her was clear in all of that.

Gamble66 · 21/06/2019 11:10

In America or quite a few democratic countries she could well have been shit by security.

Gamble66 · 21/06/2019 11:10

Bugger not doing well today

mbosnz · 21/06/2019 11:11

I think he was a blethering idiot to behave in the fashion he did. Apparently his cronies do as well, on the whole. Whoopsies.

Alsohuman · 21/06/2019 11:11

Shit by security? That’s novel. There doesn’t appear to have been much security to shit her.

Gamble66 · 21/06/2019 11:12

Well the security was shit wasn't it 😂

CassianAndor · 21/06/2019 11:12

Gamble so? This isn't America or any other country.