Man-handling climate change protestors

[Leafyhouse]

Anyone else watch with horror as a climate change protestor was forcefully removed by Mark Field from the Mansion House speech? I mean, I'm no fan of political activism, 'direct action' and so on, but she wasn't presenting him with any direct threat, just shouting and being annoying. AIBU to think that his behaviour was totally unacceptable there?

The practitioners consult him, read the whole bio

I'm not sure they do, Buster72, at least in relation to the law on self-defence, not matter how much he claims otherwise. Deciding whether a defence of self-defence is made out, and in particular whether the level of force used was reasonable, is a jury decision, fully dependent on the facts; it doesn't need expert evidence.

You are willing to accept violence towards a person when it benefits you personally...

What are you wanging on about now?

But I already have got you...
You are willing to accept violence towards a person when it benefits you personally...

Seriously mummy. Take a break. Lie down in a darkened room. Do some yoga. All those imaginary scenarios you're concocting can't be helping your mental wellbeing.

The police won't grab the wedding dress clad ex by the neck though will they? They'll escort her out in a civil fashion.

Sheesh.

She remained. Hence a use of force is justified. That's the law.

It's justified on the part of those acting as the agents of the Mansion House and the people running the event. It isn't justified for other invitees.

Of course, any use of force has to be reasonable and proportionate. As no-one else felt it necessary to use this degree of force, Field would struggle massively to satisfy anyone that what he did was reasonable.

I don’t know about you, IcedPurple, but i’m struggling to keep a straight face now.

I don’t know about you, IcedPurple, but i’m struggling to keep a straight face now.

"Mummy" is starting to scare me. If I met her in Tesco's, I might think she had intents to not be 'nice'. I guess I'd have the right to forciby eject her. Especially if she's wearing a wedding dress.

Women who gatecrash wearing wedding dresses really are a special case, I feel.

And what if she's pushing her trolley around the picnic wares section? She might pick up a plastic knife and stab people with it!

All I am doing is proving you will use violence or engage someone else to use it on your behalf....
So your feet of clay have been exposed...
Glad if your laughing ... No skin of my nose.

(how would you react if a gatecrasher at your party was thrown out by one of your guests after you asked them to leave?)

Kind of irrelevant, as Field doesn't claim that this is why he acted as he did.

Mr Field says he acted "instinctively" and was "genuinely" worried that the protester might be armed

We can all see him watching the woman: he doesn't act instinctively at all. How come that he, and he alone, out of all the guests, thought she might be armed? If the others thought she was armed, they would have been diving for the floor. And if he thought she was armed, he really needs to explain why he at no point did anything about disarming her, and why he let this dangerous armed woman walk away without giving her up to the police.

Frankly, the fact that he is telling such blatant lies should be the final nail in his coffin.

Glad if your laughing

My laughing is fine. How's your laughing?

No skin of my nose.

Really not interested in the skin of your nose, 'mummy'. Or the skin of your feet, come to think of it.

All I am doing is proving you will use violence or engage someone else to use it on your behalf....
So your feet of clay have been exposed...

Would you consider yourself to be an intelligent person?

People.aren't.angry.that.the.woman.was.removed.from.the.building.They.are.angry.that.he.assaulted.her.in.order.to.remove.her.

All I am doing is proving you will use violence or engage someone else to use it on your behalf...

Only you haven't proved anything of the sort, mummmy.

Time for that lie-down.

It's becoming increasingly obvious why 'mummy' finds the company of 14 year olds so enlightening.

The police won't grab the wedding dress clad ex by the neck though will they? They'llescort her outin a civil fashion.
Which is how the other 39 went....

Have you ever seen a cop eject someone who did not want to leave? It ain't pretty.

@isatis

Read Eric's bio. Please.

Those of you defending Mark Field - this is the company you’re keeping:

Jim Davidson
Crispin Blunt
Darren Grimes
Arron Banks
Michael Fabricant
Suzanne Evans
Nadine Dorries
Johnny Mercer
Iain Dale
Isabel Oakeshott
Julia Hartley-Brewer

That alone should give you pause for thought.

Oh if only everything could be decided by identity politics rather than a reasoned discourse on the law, legal precedent and the facts as we know em.

Watch the video the guy who asks them to leave has a big medal, which says to me he is pretty high up in that food chain but I don't know who he is.

a reasoned discourse on the law, legal precedent and the facts as we know em.

I'd be happy to have such a discussion. Which is why I've repeatedly asked you to cite the laws which allow one member of the public to eject another member of the public from a public building. You've repeatedly claimed to have law on your side, which is why I'm genuinely interested to see the relevant laws.

@mummy did your son once date Miss Havisham?

If you’re happy to share views with known bigots, misogynists and people involved in seriously dodgy dealings (not applicable to all on that list but to a fair few), Buster, then you need to take a long hard look at yourself. There’s a reason people like Jim Davidson defend male violence.

sweeney, I suspect there’s a wedding cake gathering cobwebs and dust somewhere that Mummy2017 isn’t telling us about

@IcedPurple you can trespass in a place that is open to the public as entry can be conditional even refused. Also simple trespass is not criminal. Aggravated Trespass is a criminal offence and that’s what she was doing.