Man-handling climate change protestors

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Anyone else watch with horror as a climate change protestor was forcefully removed by Mark Field from the Mansion House speech? I mean, I'm no fan of political activism, 'direct action' and so on, but she wasn't presenting him with any direct threat, just shouting and being annoying. AIBU to think that his behaviour was totally unacceptable there?

They were asked to leave.....at that point they become trespassers....it's not difficult.

So if I were to see you in the Mansion House and asked you to leave, as one member of the public to another, would you automatically be trespassing? And would I, as that member of the public, be allowed to eject you as I see fit?

She remained. Hence a use of force is justified. That's the law.

Can you cite the exact law? Specifically the provision which permits one member of the public to eject another member of the public from a building he has no rights to?

Premeditated gatecrashing, trespass......

he saw them being asked to leave

How do you know he saw them? And what is the law specifically this seeing being asked to leave bit?

( how would you react if a gatecrasher at your party was thrown out by one of your guests after you asked them to leave?)

I would be horrified if a guest behaved towards a gatecrasher in the way Field did to this woman. Anyway, it's a daft comparison as, to repeat, the Mansion House is not a privately owned building and nobody requested Field to take the action he did.

@mummmy2017 still at it? There’s no point in arguing with stupid. Don’t waste any more pixels on her. Even the former Brexit minister, David Davies, says the force was disproportionate and Field was in the wrong.

So your son's ex arrived from 100 miles away and is in a wedding dress, your not going to want her gone ASAP.

When can you use force to tackle an intruder?
Under the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008, people can use "reasonable force" in self-defence, to defend someone else, to prevent a crime or to assist in the arrest of someone.

The law says you do not have to wait until someone is attacked: Fear of attack or fear that someone else could be attacked may be sufficient.

"There doesn't have to be an actual assault," says Mr Rawson.

Mr Field says he acted "instinctively" and was "genuinely" worried that the protester might be armed.

It does not matter that he proved to be incorrect about that threat, says Eric Baskind, a law lecturer at Liverpool John Moores University who has been an expert witness in self-defence cases.

"It is to be taken on the basis of the information that he's got, even if he has made a mistake in fact," he says.

how would you react if a gatecrasher at your party was thrown out by one of your guests after you asked them to leave?

Er, I'd be fucking appalled if they'd acted as Field did. And I'd ask them to leave the premises sharpish.

They were asked to leave by an official. Watch the longer video on the BBC.

And it's common law.

They were asked to leave by an official. Watch the longer video on the BBC.

I've seen the video. You say 'they' but when was this woman in particular asked to leave, within Field's eye and earshot? And who were the 'officials'? Security men have no special status in law in the UK.

Besides, unless said 'officials' specifically asked Field to eject her, what authority did he have to do so?

And it's common law.

Again, I'd be interested to see the specific clauses that you seem so confident about.

So your son’s ex arrived from 100 miles away and is in a wedding dress

Totally jumping the shark here, Mummy2017

"Mummy's" posts are becoming increasingly incoherent, both in terms of her 'arguments' and her poor command of grammar and punctuation.

common law - always resorted to by people who know very little about the law.

Wow mummmy2017’s really struggling now!

I know, also. This thread is becoming hilarious - unintentionally, I’m sure.

A wedding is the only black tie sort of event most people ever host.
Say they walk into your house and just stand there....
So how are you removing this person?

an ex crashing a wedding in a wedding dress of her own would certainly lend a bit of spice to the proceedings.

We should all plan for such an event!

So how are you removing this person?

I would ask them to leave. If they refused to do so, I would call the police.

How about you, 'mummy'?

I think, Mummy2017, if it was my son’s ex in a wedding dress after travelling 100 miles, I’d hand her a glass of champagne and leave her to it. Wouldn’t you?

What do you think the Police will do to remove this unwanted guest. .?

What do you think the Police will do to remove this unwanted guest.

I'm not sure, never having had unwanted guests at a wedding reception (maybe you could ask your teen savants for some info?) but I expect they would ask the person to leave and if they refused to do so, would forcibly remove the person from the property, guided by the legal restrictions for such actions, and doing so by virtue of their authority as law enforcement officials.

Astonishingly poor atttempt at a 'gotcha', 'mummy'. Maybe go back to hanging out with teenagers?

Did your son’s ex do this, mummy? In a wedding dress? Is this the re-enactment of a traumatic memory for you?

What do you think the Police will do to remove this unwanted guest..?

They will carry out their well trained duty, wont they wont do is expect a member of the public to assault her

By the way express poll, came out as 80% of people thought he was right to stop her....

mummy citing the Daily Express. What a surprise! By the way, mummy, 80% of Daily Express respondents is not the same as "80% of people".

But I already have got you...
You are willing to accept violence towards a person when it benefits you personally...

@twofingerstoEverything "Mummy" was citing the wisdom of teenagers a few pages back, so don't expect too much.