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Man-handling climate change protestors

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Leafyhouse · 20/06/2019 23:17

Anyone else watch with horror as a climate change protestor was forcefully removed by Mark Field from the Mansion House speech? I mean, I'm no fan of political activism, 'direct action' and so on, but she wasn't presenting him with any direct threat, just shouting and being annoying. AIBU to think that his behaviour was totally unacceptable there?

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BigChocFrenzy · 21/06/2019 13:00

That MP has just got himself suspended and is being investigated by the police

Idiot
He knew she was annoying, not a terrorist

  • that's 100% NOT how anyone deals with a suspected terrorist or should deal with a demonstrator

If he'd just sat and fumed instead, the public would never have heard about the demonstration

If he'd even picked on a burly bloke, to show the audience how hard he is

Instead, a nobody is getting her 15 minutes of fame

DuMondeB · 21/06/2019 13:00

It was held here:

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansion_House,_London

Presumably it has permanent security staff AND the ministers present would have their own security detail in attendance.

Mansion House is the official residence of the Lord Mayor of the City of London (Peter Estlin) and is within the jurisdiction of the City of London Police Force.

The MP of the constituency is Mark Field, funnily enough.

SmallAlbatross · 21/06/2019 13:00

It looks very very violent, the way he grips her neck you can tell he isn't in control of himself, but obviously motivated by anger.

^ This. I've not read the whole thread yet but look at his face when he reacts. That's an aggressive, anger-led, reaction, not an attempt to restrain her. The police threatened me with prosecution for much less when DD's exDP tried to force his way into my house.

Gth1234 · 21/06/2019 13:02

This is more ammo for President Trump to fire regarding lax security in London, and rightly so. This is no different to moped muggers, knife murderers, acid throwers, and terrorist attacks. London or everywhere, but London is clearly out of control.That's why it's perfectly relevant to establish which idiots allowed these protesters into the event. did they have fake invites, fake ID's.

It just happened to be peaceful, yesterday. One day it won't be peaceful, and then you will all be shouting something different.

The MP should not be pilloried for this. More of the diners should have got involved. Theresa May is again showing incompetence.

FiddlesticksAkimbo · 21/06/2019 13:03

For all the lefts posturing this incident has shown them for the racist elitists they really are.

And apparently it's a feminist issue too. And an example of domestic violence!

I wonder if she was from the north? This could well be cast-iron proof of the anti-northern violence inherent in the system Grin

BigChocFrenzy · 21/06/2019 13:03

No, if she had been a woman in Asda kit, I'd say the same,
but she was dressed up to look like a guest

She was a peaceful demonstrator, not threat and she had a right not to be assaulted

That is ludicrous to refer to the demonstrators as the wealthy elite GrinGrinGrin

That was a posh dinner for the invited rich and powerful

One posh bloke wanted to teach a woman oik a lesson

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 21/06/2019 13:05

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mbosnz · 21/06/2019 13:05

Trump ought to learn not to throw stones in glass houses. The United States does not exactly have a marvellous record when it comes to violence and terrorism.

Of course, it's also rather well known for it's erosion of human rights, and use of extreme violence and murder in the face of little or no provocation by it's law enforcement officials, isn't it?

And also - who gives a crap what Trump thinks? Apart from Trump?

PinkieTuscadero · 21/06/2019 13:06

This is more ammo for President Trump to fire regarding lax security in London, and rightly so

What nonsense am I reading now? Trump would be far better employed addressing the sky high crime rates in cities such as Baltimore and New Orleans which make London look like some kind of utopia.

FiddlesticksAkimbo · 21/06/2019 13:06

I wonder if she was from the north? This could well be cast-iron proof of the anti-northern violence inherent in the system

Please, please, please let her be transgender 🤞Grin

PinkieTuscadero · 21/06/2019 13:07

And yes, why are some people fretting over what Trump thinks? It's bewildering.

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 21/06/2019 13:08

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Bookworm4 · 21/06/2019 13:09

His behaviour was inappropriate, was any other person there alarmed? She walked by plenty of people and none attempted to stop her. They declared they were peaceful and this idiot decided she need assaulted , no justifying it.

Oliversmumsarmy · 21/06/2019 13:09

He knew the demonstrators had been through a security screen

Had they. I thought a lot had walked in unchallenged.

BigChocFrenzy · 21/06/2019 13:10

Since the referendum, the hard right have decided to claim that anyone who protests their policies is part of a wealthy leftwing white shapechanging lizards elite

  • even when protesting at a dinner attended only by the wealthy & powerful ruling elite of our country Grin

and of course it's always the fault of the Muslim London Mayor ....

maybe also the Muslim Home Secretary, who is responsible for law & order

  • after all, he wasn*t invited to the Trump dinner either !
Catapultaway · 21/06/2019 13:11

Can't say that I think he did too much wrong.

Alsohuman · 21/06/2019 13:12

Really? So unprovoked assault’s OK now is it? We’ll get you assaulted a propos of nothing shall we @Catapultaway?

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 21/06/2019 13:13

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StreamsFullOfStars · 21/06/2019 13:14

I think it's being somewhat over-analysed!

If you barge into private events to disrupt and intimidate people and spark security concerns, then you can hardly complain if you are then forcefully ejected. How else do you remove someone if not forcefully?!

She wasn't injured. He's apologised to her. It's really just being politicised now and people choosing how to view it based on their politics.

Do you remember what a jolly jape it was when Nicholas Witchell sat on a protestor and forcefully held his hand over her mouth to stop her shouting during a live BBC news broadcast? That was years ago when the actual and perceived threats weren't as great. Yet it was widely viewed as an amusing tale of carrying on regardless. Funnily enough, no call for him to resign or loads of outrage over that!

It was thought that John Prescott's reputation would be badly tarnished when he punched a protestor but it actually had the opposite effect.

None of these examples are great behaviour but if you are provoked and threatened, then it is ridiculous to stand in endless judgment over how you reacted on the spur of the moment.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 21/06/2019 13:14

I thought a lot had walked in unchallenged. Through the front door, through the security check, through the corridor and into the banquet room - or so one of the other attendees said on a twitter feed somewhere up there - or maybe on the other thread about this.

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 21/06/2019 13:16

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DuMondeB · 21/06/2019 13:18

How else do you remove someone if not forcefully?!

Police and professional security staff are trained to do this.

FiddlesticksAkimbo · 21/06/2019 13:20

StreamsFullOfStars

I think it's being somewhat over-analysed!

In a nutshell!

Flopjustwantscoffee · 21/06/2019 13:20

Did tone hear the interview with some major or other on the world at one just now? Regardless of where you stand on the issue it was hilarious

smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 21/06/2019 13:21

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