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To think my newbuild is haunted?

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forsythekt · 18/06/2019 01:11

Outing so have namechanged.

I live on a smallish council estate which 5 years ago was extended with a development of 15 new council houses. I moved 2 months ago as I houseswapped with an old couple and their adult son who needed a first floor flat. I was delighted to swap as it was 3 bedrooms so both my DC (DD 3 and DS 15 months) had their own bedroom and it was on the nicer end of council estates. The reason the past owners are relevant is because I want to clarify that nobody has died in the house.

About 1 month after moving in, we began experiencing a few weird things that have been escalating. It started with little things, like hearing noises downstairs when everyone was in bed and DD's toys randomly going off in the night. After changing DS one night (after opening a new bumper box of nappies) the box fell off the changing table and nappies were all over the floor. It was the early hours and I couln't be bothered pick them up so put DS back in his cot deciding to clear it up in the morning. The next morning I went back in and the nappies were all in the corner of the room. DP thought I was being silly as it's a tiny box room so there was nowhere for them to have moved to, but I remember them in front of the changing table which is in the centre of the room.

It was then quiet for awhile until things picked up again 2 weeks ago. Our dog has been very frightened and is starting into space and barking at the walls. DD keeps coming into our bedroom in the night saying someone is whispering her name. Our usually calm good as gold DS keeps waking up in the night in hysterics and we've had to move his cot into our room. DP's older daughter (14 from a previous relationship) came to stay for the first time last week and shared with my DD. The next morning she said she'd felt a strange presence in the room, but we hadn't told her of our experience. DP was still always skeptical until what happened last night.

Me and DP are in bed cuddling poorly DS and DD was asleep in her room and we heard our dog bark and then a loud bang. Come downstairs to find the cast iron table has moved half way across the living room! And the floor is fluffy carpet so impossible for our lab to have moved it. And a few hours later a door slammed. DP admits that has made him question things. I was utterly bewildered, especially with it being a newbuild so contacted the previous tenants (with it being homeswap we still talk occasionally) to ask if they had experienced anything to which they were insistent they hadn't.

I've been doing my research on the area. It's used to be a quaint
countryside village but a lot of the old cottages, pubs and the post office etc were demolished after the war to build a city overspill estate to get people out of the inner city slums. A few other nearby estates have the same origins. The village still has a few old feautures such as a church and even some old stocks (where people used to have their hands locked in while others threw things at them for punishments) near a playing field! I think our house must be built on top of what used to be a cottage or perhaps people were buried here? Though why didn't they bother the previous tenants?

Eek! Someone tell me I'm going mad.

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OP posts:
Madmilkmaid · 18/06/2019 09:26

Write a letter to the spirit. Be polite and just explain that u understand they are there but that they are scaring the kids so you would appreciate them moving on or being a little nicer as to not wake the family during the night. Then just leave it sat for a few days. Sounds mad but it hs worked for me in the past. He didn't leave but cut back on feeling me out by trying to make his presence felt. I miss him now I've moved 😂

Phare · 18/06/2019 09:27

For heaven’s sake, ghosts don’t exist, and the vast majority of the things you describe are down to sleepiness, suggestibility, and nervous children and pets getting used to a new place.

And you have a really weird attitude to death. The house I grew up in had been in the family since 1910, ad by a rough estimation, seven people died in it, one by suicide. It has never manifested self-tidying nappies or moving furniture.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 18/06/2019 09:47

Those stories of strangers living in lofts give me the utter heebies. I can't imagine the scenario is at all likely in terms of logistics and practicalities, but something about it fires off a childhood imagination in me. The thought is creepy beyond belief. I've even had nightmares about this!

As regards the earlier comment that ghosts are just people: hmm, precisely. That's the worrying bit!

Energy, though, is weird stuff and it's interesting conjecture as to what extent this speculation belongs in the realms of metaphysics and how much to the physical sciences.The distinction between the two might not be so clear-cut as it appears. The theory of the 'poltergeist' coming from a living entity sounds plausible to me. It's not so far removed from the Freudian idea of the 'uncanny': something in our own psyches which is long-ago repressed and coming back to 'haunt' us from deep within our unconscious in the form of the eerily familiar, or 'return of the repressed'. Who knows?-Freud might have nailed this one in 1919!

NB. new-builds do creak and groan a lot, allegedly.

FlossieTeacakesFurCoat18 · 18/06/2019 09:51

I always find it funny when people are so adamant ghosts don't exist. It's not very scientific to be so closed-minded Smile

NoFucksImAQueen · 18/06/2019 09:54

I'm cynical about why an ill elderly couple would want to move to a smaller first floor flat on a worse part of the estate?

Letthemysterybe · 18/06/2019 09:56

I love the idea of a spirit so powerful that it can move furniture, but is scared off by a bit of sage!

comeongeorge · 18/06/2019 09:58

Yes me to Queen. Then feigning ignorance about any issues in the old flat..

forsythekt · 18/06/2019 10:12

2 different estates. They were desperate for a flat as one of them is in a wheelchair.

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MyOpinionIsValid · 18/06/2019 10:31

All with a pinch of salt- I took notes in a meeting for woman under section. She didnt know where she was, or the histroy. She could 'see' soldiers - this is ex miltary land, there was a bomb factory that blew up in the late 1800's, killing many wives and children, plus a diptheria outbreaks and somesuicides. But she could 'see' these people. And I believe her.

MyOpinionIsValid · 18/06/2019 10:33

Re people living in the loft - they arent going to come down and play with the furniture, they are going to raid your fridge

ContinuityError · 18/06/2019 10:39

I live in a new build in the grounds of a former psychiatric hospital. I don’t have any issues but my neighbour’s (adult) daughter hates their house, and finds it sad and oppressive. As soon as she leaves the grounds that feeling goes.

JasperTheFriendlyGhost · 18/06/2019 10:56

maybe is a friendly ghost

PollyEsterblouse · 18/06/2019 11:12

Maybe it was attached to the elderly couple, and it misses them. Talk to it, and let it know where they've gone.

We had an invisible resident in the house we lived in before this one. Even my ultra-rational, super-sceptical, no-nonsense logical partner admitted that it was a very real thing, and had to question everything he'd believed (or refused to believe) until that point. People rubbish the existence of this stuff until they find themselves sharing a house with it.

I hope your housemate finds peace, and you do, too.

dustarr73 · 18/06/2019 11:15

Its all well and good saying ghosts dont exist.Until you move in to a house and theres one there.That doesnt like you.Its really scary.

Jiggles101 · 18/06/2019 11:30

Aren't poltergeists the ones that are created from the energy of the inhabitants of the house, as a pp said?

Particularly pubescent girls I believe, did you say you have a 14 year old step daughter?

AntiHop · 18/06/2019 11:35

There's no such thing as ghosts. If there was, as everyone has a mobile phone, there would be plenty of video and photo footage around prooving it. Or on one of millions of cctv cameras around.

growinganotherhead · 18/06/2019 11:39

ContinuityError

Do you live in Newcastle?

Hearthside · 18/06/2019 11:40

Donkeyhohtay how can you emphatically say they don't has it ever been proved they don't. As far i know it hasn't. My house is haunted by a child , i have seen them and also picked up a child's name on a voice recorder we left running, my DC is sensitive and will often feel they are in the room with them but doesn't feel scared at all .My DC can sense them along with myself.I am a empath , i have gone to haunted places , sensed spirit , had a name and been proved right .No way i could have found the info myself .I cared for my DF in last stage his illness .I had things move , heard voices plainly in the house when my DF was asleep , definately no one else around as it early hrs .The hospice nurse also said that she had heard noises that she couldn't account for and she was absolutely convinced that it was spirit waiting for my DF he passed away soon after .He also said when he was fully lucid my DM who had already passed had been to see him .I am a member of a group and we will so our best to find a valid reason rather than say yes that is a spirit but you can't always so yes i fully believe.
Perhaps a medium OP but make sure it is someone genuine who comes recommended not someone out to make money or a vicar .They more than likely are attached to the land depending on what was there previous. Most spirits mean no harm .Occasionally you will get a mean one so to speak, i have a glass thrown at me by a spirit at a property who didn't like woman was witnessed by a number of people .But a vicar should be able to help .

MadImFurious · 18/06/2019 11:43

DP thought I was being silly as it's a tiny box room so there was nowhere for them to have moved to

I don't understand this bit Confused but if the nappies were piled up in the corner, it suggests a friendly ghost... IF it's a ghost. So not a wooooo creepy "haunting" type situation.

There's loads of rational explanations for "ghosts" and why people have these experiences in the same places. But I'm with you on feeling a bit unnerved!

In a similar situation I "talked" to the "ghost" and said I wanted it to be a happy home and would look after it, and the ghost was free to move on to the next realm... that sort of thing. Either it worked or it was all in my head and worked because of a sort of placebo effect - so good either way!

Hearthside · 18/06/2019 11:43

Antihop again how can you say for definite there are no such thing as ghosts .So all us who have witnessed a ghost are not truthful.I get you are totally right to not believe if that is your choice but you are wrong to make sweeping statement they don't exist just because you don't believe in ghosts .

PineappleSeahorse · 18/06/2019 11:46

There's not a shred of evidence for the existence of ghosts.

Good luck finding a 'genuine' medium. They don't exist.

VictoriaBun · 18/06/2019 11:46

I'm never sure if I believe in woo. But I'm equally happy to go along ( just in case !)
We moved into a house a few years ago where an elderly man had lived. He did not did in the house but in hospital.
When we moved in I thanked him (out loud) for allowing us to live here and hoped him well.
You could ask them to leave and let you be happy.

FiddlesticksAkimbo · 18/06/2019 12:06

If I'm honest, this sounds very concerning: something like this manifesting so suddenly, the escalation, the communication with young children and the latching on to items associated with children. Any form of paranormal kinesis, where spiritual energy is so strong as to engage with (and move) objects in the physical world is actually extremely unusual and very worrying. And there seem to be elements of malevolence which I would find somewhat alarming. You can't solve this by chatting on the internet, you need someone who knows what they're doing to advise properly.

WellErrr · 18/06/2019 12:11

I don’t really believe in ghosts but there’s something u with my new build. We built it ourselves and know the history of the land, but it’s not right at all and I hate being here alone at night.

Beebeezed · 18/06/2019 12:28

I read the title as ‘think my newborn is haunted’ Grin

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