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To ask for alone time at home

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Toask · 17/06/2019 13:16

Hello. I'm sorry, I do not how to write shorter, so it is a long post.

I've been living with my boyfriend for one year. Been together altogether 2 years. We do not have separate nor joint children.Early 30s.

My question is: AIBU to want some alone time at home, without him being there at all? Am I a total bitch for even asking for such thing?
I feel awful that I want and need something like that; but without I cannot cope well. I want to talk to my boyfriend about it again, but I do not know whether there is any point doing so. He will probably promise again things, which will not happen. Or if I want to break up, he won't accept it.

Long story:

My issue is that I like to spend time alone at home. I've been single for years previously, never lived with someone, I was a rather lonely child also, so this also affects my need, I guess. I need alone time at home to recharge. At home. Not sitting on a coffee-shop where there are other people around me, not walking on streets or shopping or whatever. At home, just lying on couch or cleaning or dancing, or singing, or doing whatever, or just enjoying the quiet; thinking, reflecting situations. Just being alone without the need to be alert. I also like to practice my hobby (dancing) at home, to improvise etc. I cannot do it when there is another human being in the same room, I just cannot do it, I cannot feel relaxed and enjoy it.

Now, the thing is, me and my boyfriend live in my studio apartment. We decided to move in together and "try it out" in the least expensive etc way. We have discussed looking for something bigger, but he has postponed the idea and I'm thinking about postponing now, too, because it is alright and cheap, if only I could get some alone time at home. I guess, if we had a bigger apartment (one bed max considering our finances), I would still sometimes need to have the place empty to fully relax.

Currently, I get zero alone time. We both work M-F 9-5. I have a group hobby I take part in twice a week plus sometimes on weekends (dancing). I talk to my friends and family over the phone (like 1-2 times per week); I sometimes meet my friends-family. So he gets his alone time at home, he says he does not need it so much but admits that it is actually a good thing. He has no hobbies, he basically does not communicate with his friends and only rarely talks to his family, he does not go out alone (concerts, bicycling, movies whatever).

And I am going nuts. I am so tired all the time, I get headaches, I do not want to be close to him and intimate because I feel like he is always there, it is like too much of him constantly.

I have discussed it with him previously. When we were dating, I mentioned I need to have alone time. When we were discussing moving in together, I told him that I will need it and he seemed OK with it, telling that of course, he can go out and do things if I need to be alone. Well.. he never did. It was autumn and then winter, rainy and cold, his bicycle was broken so he could not ride it. He was not willing to look into any hobbies. He does not like to go out alone. Then his mother's birthday came and I told him that I want to stay home alone. I got 'emotionally punished' for that decision. During general conversations I often get the impression that it would be a fearful, awful, unpleasant and/or impossible thing for him to do something outside the apartment without me. So I feel like I'm in no position to ask him to give me some regular alone time at home.

I wanted to break up with him. One of the reasons being exactly this. He convinced me that he can change and he understands and we should still be together. I gave another chance to him. He improved some areas, but the "alone time issue" still stands. We agreed that he will try and give me some space and I can ask for it. I once said I will go for a walk alone. He looked and acted like someone had died or something. I felt so awful and confused. He told he will find ways to offer me alone time, never has done it (he has tried twice, but once his friends let him down (although I also had a work event that time, so basically it does not count..) and the other time he got furious due to his work and thus missed his day-time concert and instead of me having a couple of hours to myself, I had to spend the time to calm him down).
After the break-up-thing he promised he will look out a hobby. He found a hobby, they exchanged a few emails but he did not get the information regarding the actual start date. He did not bother to ask himself, and thus missed the whole thing. He said he really wanted to go there and admits it was foolish of him not to ask about it. It was three months ago. I recently saw his emails - they were open in the computer and I saw that the same hobby thing had wrote to him. Yes, I should not have, but I opened the email and discovered that two weeks ago they let him know that a new hobby group was about to be open, starting from X date. He never mentioned me about it and never took the opportunity to start in a new group.

What can I do now? Talk to him and hope that he will arrange something for him? Not talk to him and somehow get used to not having alone time at home and deciding that it is unreasonable for me to ask such thing? Tell him again I want to break up and stick to it?

OP posts:
Lairydea · 17/06/2019 13:23

What were the other reasons for wanting to break up with him if needing space was only one of them?

Sn0tnose · 17/06/2019 13:23

I think you have fundamentally different ideas of what cohabiting should be like. For what it’s worth, I’m with you. He would drive me insane.

You’ve told him what you need. He’s told you by his actions that he’s either not willing or not able to give you that. So you have three options. You either carry on as you are. You ask him to move out but carry on with the relationship living in different places or you break up and go your separate ways.

MrsXyzAbc · 17/06/2019 13:27

Hi
Well trying to see both points of view as I guess everyone has their own issues, and they take these issues with them into their relationships.
He hates going out, so I suppose it's unfair to force him to just so you can be alone. You hate the suffocation of never having a minute to yourself (I get this!), which he struggles to understand.
Thrown into the mix in my opinion is the worst possible living set up for 2 people who feel like this. I can only imagine this working for people who either come & go, and then catch up in between, or people who both love each others company non-stop (which I don't think any couple really does).
You both need to be at least able to chill out in a different room from time to time for your own sanity. If you think the relationship is worth it in other ways (apologies but i didn't read the full post), i think you really should give it a try to get a least an apartment with 1 separate room, give that a go first, and it might never come to an end. If it does, at least you will have tried everything.

Windygate · 17/06/2019 13:32

You've tried living together and it's not working. He needs to move out.

adaline · 17/06/2019 13:36

Ha this would drive me absolutely mad!

Sympathies OP - I'm not sure what the solution is!

HomeTheatreSystem · 17/06/2019 13:41

Tbh sharing a studio apartment would be quite a tough call even if you weren't someone who needed their own space every now and again. You were upfront about what you needed, he has disregarded that, so ask him to move out. You don't have to break up. Just say you realise that practically speaking it's not working how you hoped and for your own sanity you need your space back.

Singlenotsingle · 17/06/2019 13:46

You need a bigger flat. I wouldn't be able to live with my dp in a studio. Atm I'm in the lounge and he's in his shed. Later he'll be in the lounge and I'll be in the bedroom. If you want to stay in the relationship, you need to move house and get something bigger. It's not fair to expect him just to go out when you want to be alone😂

BelulahBlanca · 17/06/2019 13:49

OP- did you post about his mother’s party?

whiteroseredrose · 17/06/2019 13:53

The problem is that it is his home too. He has every right to be there. I'm a homebody and would really resent someone making me go out when I don't want to.

Maybe buy next door houses or flats?

plunkplunkfizz · 17/06/2019 13:53

Sounds like you’ve gone about this all wrong. I can see the merits in trying it out in a studio flat but what does it really show if that’s not how you would live long term. Would you not have given things a better stab in a one bed? That way he could watch tv or whatever and you read in the bedroom or vice versa. Does he really never go out anywhere without you?

It’s a bit off insisting he go out of his own house to get your alone time.

Time40 · 17/06/2019 13:57

Ask him to move out, OP. It's the only way you're going to feel better.

LegionOfDoom · 17/06/2019 14:07

BelulahBlanca What does that have to do with this thread?

Op, I think unless he’s willing to compromise, you need to rethink your living arrangements.

I love my dh but his two hobby nights a week are brilliant for me. He goes after all the dc are in bed. I get a couple of hours lounging on the sofa catching up on all my programs. It’s nice to have some space.

We also lived in a studio and managed until dd was 2 years old. I think we managed because we both got time alone so we weren’t on top of each other all the time. That would drive me nuts.

cestlavielife · 17/06/2019 14:09

It isn't working.
Bigger flat with space for you to escape - but he might still but you.

Or split.
Or live separately.

Best is to go separate ways as incompatible and he is too needy. If you had a baby would he mange to look after it alone?

HollowTalk · 17/06/2019 14:13

This guy moved into your studio flat (so not much space) on the proviso that you still had some time to yourself. Now he has time to himself but won't allow you any time to yourself.

I'd tell him his time was up and that he should move out.

Dragongirl10 · 17/06/2019 14:15

Op you are fundamentally unsuited...and thats fine... but l think you need to seperate or live apart and date.

BTW l am exactly like you and completely understand.

theruffles · 17/06/2019 14:50

I think I'd have another chat with him about finding a hobby/some friends to spend a bit of time with each week so that you could have the place to yourself. This sounds a bit stifling, especially when having alone time and space to yourself is so important for you to be happy.

My DH and I have an unwritten agreement that one night a week he goes out with friends and another night in the week I go out for my hobby. We both get the house to ourselves at least once a week that way (DC is in bed) and it allows us to have a bit of space and time to ourselves.

Toask · 17/06/2019 14:51

Thank you all! I actually started crying, it is so difficult situation for me.

At least I know now that it is OK that I need my space, I'm not a freak or unreasonable person. Rather it is a issue of incompatibility. I also understand now that it is unreasonable to force someone out of their home due to my needs. I get that.

What hurts me, tbh, is that he could just say that my conditions are not OK with him, he does not want to go outside and that's it. Instead, he promises me things and says he understands, but then does not deliver his promises. It's confusing.

I started crying at the moment, because I tried to imagine living in a one bed apartment and I still got that suffocating feeling inside. I have hard time believing it would solve the issue. I have asked him for an hour of silence, for example, being in my own corner doing some important work stuff. He even then manages to ask for my attention for several times. I guess the issue is that he just needs to be constantly together. And it would still feel tricky - for example, I want to dance - fine I'm in the other room. But if I want to watch TV alone? I would have to force him to another room to do something else. I'd like total silence, but perhaps he wants to watch TV in the other room, I would still hear it through the wall. I would have to tell him to shut the TV off. I'd still force him to do things...

It seems so wrong. I guess it is incompatibility. But he does not seem to think this way.

Other reasons for breaking up? He was keen on being passive-aggressive about me going out with friends or taking part of my hobby. He has rather negative outlook on things and gets irritated about the smallest things rather easily. He is procrastinating.

The passive-aggressivness has improved very much. He is less negative and can control his irritations more, but I guess these will never go away. He has improved his procrastination a bit, but I still see that it is very difficult for him to commit to anything.

I get the impression that it would be wiser to break up again and stick to it. Because it seems we are incompatible. But then again I feel like I have let our relationship down because I have not tried everything and given him enough chances.

OP posts:
HollowTalk · 17/06/2019 14:54

The thing is that you need more space and he won't accept that.

You have a right to be happy in your own home. Tell him to find his own place and then maybe you can still see each other.

Is he actually paying rent? Is there more at stake for him here?

SuperSaturdaySteve · 17/06/2019 14:55

I totally get this.

And it's one thing if he's a homebody and doesn't want to go out (although that would still drive me mad), but when he tried to make you feel bad for going on a walk alone? Fundamentally incompatible, it seems. Good luck, OP Flowers

H2OH20Everywhere · 17/06/2019 15:00

I'm with you. I'm lucky as my DP is the same abd has a shed in the garden where he'll go most evenings for a few hours so I get the house to myself and he spends a lot of the weekends working in the garden. Plus once a month he goes and visits his family on his own so I get a long weekend totally free. It's bliss!

He's going away for a month soon with work and I can't wait! Yes I'll miss him, but I'll be able to recharge my batteries. One thing I haven't done is tell my mother, as she'll be convinced I'll be lonely and offer -insist- on coming up to stay which will ruin the whole thing!

It sounds like he's an extrovert (needs people around) and you're an introvert (need space). If you fancy discussing it with him again ask him to imagine how he'd feel if he didn't see anyone for days on end, then say that that is what is like for you, just the other way round. But personally I think I'd just LTB. He's not listening to you, and doesn't respect you enough to even try to hear what you're saying.

jameswong · 17/06/2019 15:09

Honestly, the guy sounds like an absolute loser and you should dump him.

Toask · 17/06/2019 15:09

Thanks for the understanding and support. It means a lot to me.

I'm keen on trying once more talking to him about it, instead of throwing him the "I want to break up with you" like the last time.

But.. All I can think of saying is that "I understand that you do not want to go out alone and you have nothing to do outside and I understand that I cannot force you to do it. At the same time, however, I cannot live like this having no alone time at home, I just cannot cope like this". I guess that is all I can think of doing currently.

And I'm pretty sure that after that, sooner or later, I have to accept that we are incompatible.

OP posts:
Barbarafromblackpool · 17/06/2019 15:14

You’re not comparable unfortunately.

CaptainJaneway62 · 17/06/2019 15:14

I can fully understand your need for space. I have always been the same and do not feel the need to be "joined at the hip" to anyone not just a partner.

I have only met one person who I was compatible with in this area and that was someone who liked to spend a lot of time doing outdoor hobbies. He was also out a lot for work too. I worked from home.

Since that relationship ended from other reasons I have chosen to live alone now and it is the only thing that gives me complete peace of mind.

The fact that your partner chooses not to listen to and refuses to give you space...telling you he will do then doesn't follow through is just another form of passive aggression!

Incompatible is the right word for it.
You are better off on your own OP for your own emotional wellbeing and mental health.

H2OH20Everywhere · 17/06/2019 15:22

Could you suggest he moves out until you can afford to buy somewhere bigger? Stay together, but then at least you'd have time on your own in your own place.

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