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To ask for alone time at home

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Toask · 17/06/2019 13:16

Hello. I'm sorry, I do not how to write shorter, so it is a long post.

I've been living with my boyfriend for one year. Been together altogether 2 years. We do not have separate nor joint children.Early 30s.

My question is: AIBU to want some alone time at home, without him being there at all? Am I a total bitch for even asking for such thing?
I feel awful that I want and need something like that; but without I cannot cope well. I want to talk to my boyfriend about it again, but I do not know whether there is any point doing so. He will probably promise again things, which will not happen. Or if I want to break up, he won't accept it.

Long story:

My issue is that I like to spend time alone at home. I've been single for years previously, never lived with someone, I was a rather lonely child also, so this also affects my need, I guess. I need alone time at home to recharge. At home. Not sitting on a coffee-shop where there are other people around me, not walking on streets or shopping or whatever. At home, just lying on couch or cleaning or dancing, or singing, or doing whatever, or just enjoying the quiet; thinking, reflecting situations. Just being alone without the need to be alert. I also like to practice my hobby (dancing) at home, to improvise etc. I cannot do it when there is another human being in the same room, I just cannot do it, I cannot feel relaxed and enjoy it.

Now, the thing is, me and my boyfriend live in my studio apartment. We decided to move in together and "try it out" in the least expensive etc way. We have discussed looking for something bigger, but he has postponed the idea and I'm thinking about postponing now, too, because it is alright and cheap, if only I could get some alone time at home. I guess, if we had a bigger apartment (one bed max considering our finances), I would still sometimes need to have the place empty to fully relax.

Currently, I get zero alone time. We both work M-F 9-5. I have a group hobby I take part in twice a week plus sometimes on weekends (dancing). I talk to my friends and family over the phone (like 1-2 times per week); I sometimes meet my friends-family. So he gets his alone time at home, he says he does not need it so much but admits that it is actually a good thing. He has no hobbies, he basically does not communicate with his friends and only rarely talks to his family, he does not go out alone (concerts, bicycling, movies whatever).

And I am going nuts. I am so tired all the time, I get headaches, I do not want to be close to him and intimate because I feel like he is always there, it is like too much of him constantly.

I have discussed it with him previously. When we were dating, I mentioned I need to have alone time. When we were discussing moving in together, I told him that I will need it and he seemed OK with it, telling that of course, he can go out and do things if I need to be alone. Well.. he never did. It was autumn and then winter, rainy and cold, his bicycle was broken so he could not ride it. He was not willing to look into any hobbies. He does not like to go out alone. Then his mother's birthday came and I told him that I want to stay home alone. I got 'emotionally punished' for that decision. During general conversations I often get the impression that it would be a fearful, awful, unpleasant and/or impossible thing for him to do something outside the apartment without me. So I feel like I'm in no position to ask him to give me some regular alone time at home.

I wanted to break up with him. One of the reasons being exactly this. He convinced me that he can change and he understands and we should still be together. I gave another chance to him. He improved some areas, but the "alone time issue" still stands. We agreed that he will try and give me some space and I can ask for it. I once said I will go for a walk alone. He looked and acted like someone had died or something. I felt so awful and confused. He told he will find ways to offer me alone time, never has done it (he has tried twice, but once his friends let him down (although I also had a work event that time, so basically it does not count..) and the other time he got furious due to his work and thus missed his day-time concert and instead of me having a couple of hours to myself, I had to spend the time to calm him down).
After the break-up-thing he promised he will look out a hobby. He found a hobby, they exchanged a few emails but he did not get the information regarding the actual start date. He did not bother to ask himself, and thus missed the whole thing. He said he really wanted to go there and admits it was foolish of him not to ask about it. It was three months ago. I recently saw his emails - they were open in the computer and I saw that the same hobby thing had wrote to him. Yes, I should not have, but I opened the email and discovered that two weeks ago they let him know that a new hobby group was about to be open, starting from X date. He never mentioned me about it and never took the opportunity to start in a new group.

What can I do now? Talk to him and hope that he will arrange something for him? Not talk to him and somehow get used to not having alone time at home and deciding that it is unreasonable for me to ask such thing? Tell him again I want to break up and stick to it?

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insideoutsider · 17/06/2019 15:30

Poor you.
Some of us NEED the alone time in order to maintain our sanity, just to give our minds space to rest and be. Some people must be with their significant other at every opportunity.

I had to explain to an exP that I must have time 'off', even on holidays, where I can go off on my own or he goes off on his own. He looked sad at first but it worked after a while.

It is obvious your partner is unable to give you the space - it seems he needs you constantly.

In your situation, I could never stay together in any kind of space where I can't find time to be totally alone. Would he be able to move back to his place?

Toask · 17/06/2019 15:57

I guess deciding to live separately and keep dating would still mean breaking up to him.

To be honest, I got angry for a moment. I had my life and my activities prior to him and he started to passive aggresdively demanding me to cut down the time I spent on these things, saying I do not spend enough time with him etc. I tried to do it, but eventually sticked to my hobby and friends. However, I spend less time with them and I take on at least 50% less hobby related activities to spend more time with him as he has wanted. I would love to spend more time at home at weekend, but he wants to go out and so I compromise and go with him (he does not want to alone). So I sacrifice my activities and my time to fulfil his needs, while he cannot be bothered to sacrifice a bit of his comfort and go to gym, a concert, bicycling or whatever alone to give me a few hours alone time. He has not sacrifised anything compared to his life prior to me, he has only gained (including financially as it is much cheaper living in my apartment, he pais half and the costs are really low compared to a rental). At the same time I h

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Toask · 17/06/2019 15:58

Sorry, pushed the wrong button. At the same time I have sacrifised my activities and my alone time for him.

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HollowTalk · 17/06/2019 16:40

Why are you still with him? What is it about him that means you let him stay there? It's your place. You're no longer happy in it because of him. Why do you let him stay?

Itstheprinciple · 17/06/2019 19:08

Totally agree. I dropped my hours in work so I know have a day off to myself but if you're saving up that's probably not an option but I do understand. My DH has hobbies that take him away for weekends too. I just need to be in the house pottering, doing what I want and not considering anyone else! Good luck. Hope you find a compromise.

Siameasy · 17/06/2019 19:18

Yanbu that would kill me off
My DH likes to be together on days off much more often than I do (nothing against him I just need lots of alone time to decompress, especially since having DC). Luckily we are shift workers so I do get my silence, solitude otherwise I would be in the loony bin

CaptSkippy · 17/06/2019 19:29

Well, the lack of time to myself would be enough to push me over the edge.

However, that does not seem to be the only thing going on. He is trying to isolate you, little by little, from your own social circles and that is a massive red-flag. It is a classic abuse tactic.

Furthermore, it seems like all the comprises in the relationship are coming from your side and that is not fair. You're suppose to meet somewhere half-way, but it seems he can't be bothered.

I'd say get rid of him.

CodenameVillanelle · 17/06/2019 19:34

What positive does he bring to your life?
You've just talked about the things you have lost by being with him (and it's a lot!! Really!) but you haven't mentioned anything positive at all. Why do you want to give the relationship another chance? What for?

redexpat · 17/06/2019 19:42

Your last update is quite telling. You compromise to meet his needs but he doesnt do the same for you. Bottom line: his needs will always come first. Dump him. Im pleased you got angry.

redexpat · 17/06/2019 19:42

You deserve to come first sometimes.

goodwinter · 17/06/2019 20:25

Wow OP, I'm seeing a lot of issues here.

I got 'emotionally punished' for that decision. During general conversations I often get the impression that it would be a fearful, awful, unpleasant and/or impossible thing for him to do something outside the apartment without me. So I feel like I'm in no position to ask him to give me some regular alone time at home.

What do you mean by "emotionally punished"? It sounds a lot like he's guilting you for needing time to yourself. That's not a healthy way to live.

I opened the email and discovered that two weeks ago they let him know that a new hobby group was about to be open, starting from X date. He never mentioned me about it

He lied to you in order to not let you have any time alone.

He was keen on being passive-aggressive about me going out with friends or taking part of my hobby.

He is isolating you from your friends and your hobbies.

IMO, he is either emotionally abusive, or struggling with crippling anxiety that he's not acknowledging or getting any help for. If the former, please leave him immediately. If it's the latter, he needs to seek help PDQ or you should leave before he drags you down with him.

joystir59 · 17/06/2019 20:45

I couldn't stand the situation OP. We each do our own thing and also have a big house and so do not have to be in the same room all the time when we are both at home. I think you are incompatible as he doesn't sound very mature or independent tbh.

SignedUpJust4This · 17/06/2019 20:59

Im like this OP. Took my DH a few years to realise its not about him. I'm a happier person when I get some breathing space every now & then. I used to play that Pink song 'leave me alone...' (not really a pink fan) but he got the hint. I think you need a bigger place or you go somewhere 1 evening a week for a while. Once he realises how nice it is to be alone for a while he might understand your reasons.

minmooch · 17/06/2019 21:48

It would drive me mad to have no me time. Luckily my partner has his own hobbies that let me have time at home on my own. I can join him if I want but he doesn't expect me to. He doesn't seem to need time alone so it works for us.

You don't sound compatible to me. And that's ok. You've tried living together and it's not working out. Not all relationships do.

I think it's time to call it a day.

justasking111 · 17/06/2019 21:56

My neighbours either side are joined at the hip. They do everything together morning, noon and night. Although the wife at one house does go to stay with family quite often and her husband enjoys the peace he says.

The husbands think my OH has it made he comes and goes with his hobbies every day and I dont moan at all. Their wives think I am odd, but like the OP I like my space and we live in a big house. He is a tv watcher I like to read or play on computer. He is outdoorsy whatever the weather, I am a fair weather outdoor person.

OP you need a bigger flat at the very least.

Taswama · 17/06/2019 22:21

Have you read ‘Quiet’ ? Your feelings are totally valid. Your DP sounds like he’s gaslighting you, isolating you and sulking (PA).
I would suggest he moves out but it definitely isn’t working.

Toask · 18/06/2019 06:51

So many replies! Thank you!

Yes, I really thought he was trying to make me lose my friends and hobby with his behaviour, but after the break-up-talk this has improved very much. He most of the time does not pull those passive-aggressive tricks anymore when I go out. However, I still feel uneasy telling him I want to go.

I guess he is filled with anxiety also, he has told me. But he promises to deal with it, I have offered help, but it he does not ask help, and I do not know what to do. He even got therapy after the break-up talk, but it lasted only a few sessions and I do not think it was very good therapy. However, as he has had it already, he thinks it is enough and according to him it helped a lot.

What do I like about him? Well, we get along rather well, we do interesting and fun things together when we are out, he is hands-on household chores wise, he is mostly a decent good and caring man. Most of the time he is really a good man, although underneath I actually feel resentment for all those not-so-good things. He is sweet. But with his sweetness he can also make me feel sorry for him when I think of breaking up. It was so hard and difficult the last time, I'm scared I cannot go through with it again.

But writing it all this, I'm afraid the prior passive-aggressivness, he being in his comfort zone, realising that he is not willing to sacrifice anything, procrastination etc makes me feel that the love has died and no amount of space could bring it back. I guess I'm gotten too used to him being there all the time that I'm also afraid of being alone, which makes me sick because I have never been unhappy being alone.

I'm just scared to bring the issue up again, because he would probably again tell me how he will change and I fall in and believe him and then again months will pass and I'm back at the same place.

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Toask · 18/06/2019 06:55

Thanks, @Taswama. I will read "Quiet", sounds interesting.

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Myfoolishboatisleaning · 18/06/2019 06:55

You live with another person in one room? Of course you are going mad. Why would you ever think this was a good idea?

MinisterforCheekyFuckery · 18/06/2019 07:10

You are fundamentally incompatible, both in terms of your personalities and your ideas of what a relationship should be like. He wants you to be together 24/7, he doesn't feel the need for his own interests and hobbies and hates being alone. You want to have your own life, your own friends, interests and hobbies that are just yours and you need time alone to recharge.
Neither of you can change these things about yourself. Sure, he'll promise to change when you talk about breaking up but he's shown he's not capable of doing that. And honestly, if the only way you can envision the relationship working is for one of you to fundamentally change who you are then what's the point?

Of course living together in one room will be intensifying your resentment but a bigger apartment won't solve the problem. It won't make him less dependant on you. He'll still want to be together all the time, you'll still want some time to yourself. Yes, you will be able to physically leave the room to get away from him but you'll both still be feeling the same.

I would also worry that, over time, you will end up giving in for an easy life. It will become more difficult to keep up with your friends and hobbies with him sulking or making you feel guilty so you'll go out less and less. Living with someone who never wants to go anywhere or do anything can grind your spirit down after a while. Don't let that happen.

Tell him to move out. Then you'll have your life back and he can find someone who wants what he wants.

toomuchtooold · 18/06/2019 07:25

That thing of refusing to argue with you, but then also just sort of passively not doing what you asked and he agreed to - do you fancy still doing that in 5 years' time? What if you have kids - do you fancy having discussions with him about pulling his weight with the kids (for example), and watching him agree with all your reasoning and then do nothing? Because that's not going to change any time soon.

Honestly, cohabiting is not supposed to be this hard, specially not this early on and with no kids. You know you don't have to stay with him just because he wants to?

Toask · 18/06/2019 08:06

You are really talking a lot of sense into me. I'm so grateful you all took the time to do it. I must end the relationship indeed and this time for good. My reasoning the last time was exactly the fact that we are fundamentally different so it would be good for both of us to split. He did not agree. And this is the hard part - convincing him. My heart breaks of the thought of him suffering - he will lose me, he will lose his companionship and support that he so much needs and through all this pain he also must find a new place to live and lose also significantly financially.

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Shoxfordian · 18/06/2019 08:15

He sounds like a stage 5 klingon.
In case you need reassuring, I'm exactly the same as you needing my own space. My husband and I don't even sleep in the same bed. Break up with him and go back to your hobbies and friends. Don't ever scale back your life or happiness for a man again

CodenameVillanelle · 18/06/2019 08:17

He's 'decent' and 'sweet' - is he? Wanting to be around you all the time because he's too 'anxious' or demotivated to have his own friends and hobbies isn't sweet. Doing half the housework isn't decent - and you managed 100% of it before he moved in - presumably he's just balancing the additional mess he creates anyway?
The way you talk about him passive aggressively stopping you seeing friends and doing your hobbies is chilling - and the fact that you want out of this relationship but are too worried about how he will cope.
You're showing traits of compulsive caregiving. Have a google and see if that fits. It's not healthy to put someone else's needs above your own like this.

Lairydea · 18/06/2019 08:20

It's not about convincing him though is it? You saying you no longer want to be in a relationship should be enough; his feelings aren't worth more than yours so it doesn't matter if he wants to stay in the relationship - you do not.
It sounds like it will be tricky as he will try to "reason" his way out of a break up. This is where you must stand firm.
I, much like you, need my space; my brain cannot cope with constant noise and constant demands for time and attention. I would absolutely struggle with a partner like yours!

Personally I would pack up his clothes and have them ready for him to take with him when he finishes work. I would refuse to engage in any discussion and would repeat the line; "this isn't working for me any more. You need to leave" non-combative, normal speaking volume.

Stick to your guns!

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