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To ask for alone time at home

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Toask · 17/06/2019 13:16

Hello. I'm sorry, I do not how to write shorter, so it is a long post.

I've been living with my boyfriend for one year. Been together altogether 2 years. We do not have separate nor joint children.Early 30s.

My question is: AIBU to want some alone time at home, without him being there at all? Am I a total bitch for even asking for such thing?
I feel awful that I want and need something like that; but without I cannot cope well. I want to talk to my boyfriend about it again, but I do not know whether there is any point doing so. He will probably promise again things, which will not happen. Or if I want to break up, he won't accept it.

Long story:

My issue is that I like to spend time alone at home. I've been single for years previously, never lived with someone, I was a rather lonely child also, so this also affects my need, I guess. I need alone time at home to recharge. At home. Not sitting on a coffee-shop where there are other people around me, not walking on streets or shopping or whatever. At home, just lying on couch or cleaning or dancing, or singing, or doing whatever, or just enjoying the quiet; thinking, reflecting situations. Just being alone without the need to be alert. I also like to practice my hobby (dancing) at home, to improvise etc. I cannot do it when there is another human being in the same room, I just cannot do it, I cannot feel relaxed and enjoy it.

Now, the thing is, me and my boyfriend live in my studio apartment. We decided to move in together and "try it out" in the least expensive etc way. We have discussed looking for something bigger, but he has postponed the idea and I'm thinking about postponing now, too, because it is alright and cheap, if only I could get some alone time at home. I guess, if we had a bigger apartment (one bed max considering our finances), I would still sometimes need to have the place empty to fully relax.

Currently, I get zero alone time. We both work M-F 9-5. I have a group hobby I take part in twice a week plus sometimes on weekends (dancing). I talk to my friends and family over the phone (like 1-2 times per week); I sometimes meet my friends-family. So he gets his alone time at home, he says he does not need it so much but admits that it is actually a good thing. He has no hobbies, he basically does not communicate with his friends and only rarely talks to his family, he does not go out alone (concerts, bicycling, movies whatever).

And I am going nuts. I am so tired all the time, I get headaches, I do not want to be close to him and intimate because I feel like he is always there, it is like too much of him constantly.

I have discussed it with him previously. When we were dating, I mentioned I need to have alone time. When we were discussing moving in together, I told him that I will need it and he seemed OK with it, telling that of course, he can go out and do things if I need to be alone. Well.. he never did. It was autumn and then winter, rainy and cold, his bicycle was broken so he could not ride it. He was not willing to look into any hobbies. He does not like to go out alone. Then his mother's birthday came and I told him that I want to stay home alone. I got 'emotionally punished' for that decision. During general conversations I often get the impression that it would be a fearful, awful, unpleasant and/or impossible thing for him to do something outside the apartment without me. So I feel like I'm in no position to ask him to give me some regular alone time at home.

I wanted to break up with him. One of the reasons being exactly this. He convinced me that he can change and he understands and we should still be together. I gave another chance to him. He improved some areas, but the "alone time issue" still stands. We agreed that he will try and give me some space and I can ask for it. I once said I will go for a walk alone. He looked and acted like someone had died or something. I felt so awful and confused. He told he will find ways to offer me alone time, never has done it (he has tried twice, but once his friends let him down (although I also had a work event that time, so basically it does not count..) and the other time he got furious due to his work and thus missed his day-time concert and instead of me having a couple of hours to myself, I had to spend the time to calm him down).
After the break-up-thing he promised he will look out a hobby. He found a hobby, they exchanged a few emails but he did not get the information regarding the actual start date. He did not bother to ask himself, and thus missed the whole thing. He said he really wanted to go there and admits it was foolish of him not to ask about it. It was three months ago. I recently saw his emails - they were open in the computer and I saw that the same hobby thing had wrote to him. Yes, I should not have, but I opened the email and discovered that two weeks ago they let him know that a new hobby group was about to be open, starting from X date. He never mentioned me about it and never took the opportunity to start in a new group.

What can I do now? Talk to him and hope that he will arrange something for him? Not talk to him and somehow get used to not having alone time at home and deciding that it is unreasonable for me to ask such thing? Tell him again I want to break up and stick to it?

OP posts:
regmover · 18/06/2019 08:32

It's not just about the alone time is it? He's a tosser in other ways as well. Stick to your guns and ditch him.

AmIRightOrAMeringue · 18/06/2019 08:36

Hi OP

I think most people would find it difficult living in a studio flat together

I guess some people dont like going out much. However it's a bit worrying that he doesnt even like you going out for a walk alone.

I think most people would find his need to be with you and speak to you constantly very irritating as well as the pressure it puts you under knowing he has no outside hobbies or interests or friends and yet seems incapable of spending time alone so all his entertainment comes from you - that doesnt seem healthy to me

It sounds like you're quite incompatible and have given him the chance to change

Iwantacookie · 18/06/2019 08:41

Op I get it. I'm my dp full time carer so it is 24/7.
He had a hospital appointment last week and the 3 hours I had alone were heaven.
It's not the same if they're in the other room you want to be ALONE.
I no my situation is different from yours but you've got to tell him this isn't working for you.

NewAccount270219 · 18/06/2019 08:48

I broke up with a boyfriend of six years over a very similar issue: I couldn't cope with being his whole social life and him never wanting to do anything without me. We talked about it repeatedly, he said he'd change, he didnt. Infuriatingly, once I had actually left and he realised I really wasn't coming back he got himself a full and varied social life! At the time I remember thinking 'why couldn't he have done that sooner and then we'd still be together?' - but now, nearly a decade on, no part of me wishes that had happened. We would have been miserable if we were still together, even if he had started going out more. It was a fundamental incompatibility, and we're both (we still keep in vague and friendly contact - he came to my wedding) happier apart.

MinisterforCheekyFuckery · 18/06/2019 09:10

He did not agree. And this is the hard part - convincing him.

Here's the thing, if you don't want to be in a relationship with him anymore that's entirely your choice to make. He doesn't have to agree, but he does have to accept it. It's absolutely not your job to "convince" him to let you end it. You want to end it, then it ends. He will be distressed, he will find it difficult to believe you mean it because he's been able to guilt you into changing your mind before. So you must be firm, be kind by all means, but be very, very clear that you are not going to change your mind this time and he needs to leave the apartment. That's how you get your life back and it's how he can (eventually) figure out how to move on.

HarleyS · 18/06/2019 09:18

Tell him to move out and when you have a bigger place you can move back in together.
You don't have to break up.
I studio would be like a prison to me let alone sharing it with someone.

MinisterforCheekyFuckery · 18/06/2019 10:21

I don't agree with posters suggesting that moving to a bigger home is the solution. Of course living in a studio flat together will certainly not be helping the situation. But it's far from the only problem in the relationship.

OP is clearly an independent person who enjoys some solitude, but also needs her own interests, friends and hobbies outside of her relationship. Her DP on the other hand wants a co-dependent relationship where he and his partner spend all their time together, negating the need for any friends or hobbies or even leaving the house. If OP has a spare bedroom to retreat to, that may give her some respite for an hour or so, but it won't change him. He'll still be needy and want to monopolise her time, which isn't how she wants to live. She'll still want him to be the sort of person who has hobbies and friends, which isn't what how he wants to live.
And I'd be willing to bet he'd find excuse after excuse to come and disrupt her alone time in that spare bedroom anyway.

Pearlfish · 18/06/2019 10:28

OP, you can choose not to be in a relationship for any reason you like. He does not have to agree with you or be convinced. If one person does not want a relationship then the relationship is over - it doesn't matter what the other person thinks.

Happynow001 · 18/06/2019 10:39

He did not agree. And this is the hard part - convincing him.
He does not have to agree and you don't have to convince him to agree with you in order for him to leave.

He is in your space and you are feeling suffocated, physically and emotionally, so you can definitely tell him to back off and find his own living space so you can live your life how you wish.

My heart breaks of the thought of him suffering - he will lose me, he will lose his companionship and support that he so much needs and through all this pain he also must find a new place to live and lose also significantly financially.
Get his voice out if you head. He is an adult and must, therefore, find a way to deal with this and live his own life, get emotional support elsewhere if you are unable or unwilling to provide it.

We cannot always fix another person, much as we may wish to. The situation you are currently in is unable to change enough for you to feel comfortable because you each are who you are.

He is clinging on and you need and want (quite rightly) a social life and private time in your life and he doesn't really get it and is paying lip service/going through the motions to stay with you. He is, however, only likely to settle further and deeper back into his rut as he gets older. If you don't want that you need to be very clear you want him to move out - whether you want to maintain a relationship with him or not.

Personally I would pack up his clothes and have them ready for him to take with him when he finishes work. I would refuse to engage in any discussion and would repeat the line; "this isn't working for me any more. You need to leave" non-combative, normal speaking volume.
This^^.

I was going to say give him a few days (no more than a week) to find alternative accommodation and he leaves without any excuses but the above PP is more direct and probably what I'd do in your situation.

Good luck OP. Be clear, be firm and get your life (and inner peace) back! 🌹

minmooch · 18/06/2019 13:02

Agree with PP. you do not need to convince him. A successful relationship is based on both people wanting to be in it. It is no longer working for you and therefore the relationship is over. You neither have to give reasons nor make him understand/accept.

I think he will stall for time and therefore I agree your best course of action is to pull your big girl pants up and pack his stuff for you.

He is an adult and responsible for his own actions/happiness.

TowelNumber42 · 18/06/2019 13:17

No you do not have to convince him. In fact convincing him is cruel: it's you trying to force him to agree with all the things you don't like about him. Nope.

You don't want to be in a relationship with him any more. Give no reasons beyond "I am not happy" "I don't want to be with you any longer" "It's me not you."

Give him a short number of days to move out.

Do not engage in any discussions about who did what wrong and what are your respective character flaws. That only creates angst and opportunities for manipulation.

Tell him bluntly that it's over. He needs to move out by the end of the month. Then be out a lot yourself until he's gone to avoid his inevitable selfish demands that you keep him because he wants you (screw what you want). Be hard and cold. It will make it easier for you both. Embrace your inner Cruella to be kinder in the long run.

CaptSkippy · 18/06/2019 18:53

It doesn't matter if he agrees or not. You can't force someone to stay in a relationship who wants out. So what you say goes in this scenario.

hazell42 · 18/06/2019 19:27

I cant stand not being able to be on my own

You are not being unreasonable
However no point pretending he wont be hurt
You need to go back to living separately

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