To think that inviting primary children to witness erect penises, gang rape references and spikes up mens arses isn't artistic, it's pedophilia?

[ShouldIStayOrShouldIRun]

This art exhibition is being pushed by Gendered Intelligence, a group that works in schools:

www.transgendertrend.com/gendered-intelligence-training-teachers-kiss-my-genders/

The event is not age restricted, in fact children are being actively encouraged to go.

I have been informed by a very 'woke' friend that this is art and I am homophobic, kink shaming, and transphobic (because apparently even linking to the above website on my FB is, no matter what it says) and that maybe I should go with my own primary aged dc to 'broaden my mind'.

My mind has been broadened. That friend obviously shouldn't be let anywhere near my dc again.

AIBU?

• Opening post edited at OP's request

What can we actually do about it?

Join the growing women's movement (if you haven't already) and get involved. That's where the fight back to this is happening.

These proposals also suggest 'how to masturbate lessons'

Do we club together for a desert island to pop anyone that supports this on?

Ex friend and his two buddies are now blocked. They were creepy as hell towards the end there. Along the lines of - I'm an abusive mother, denying my children the chance to learn about diveristy.

Hideous. Btw I saw someone posted on FB who went to this exhibition and said it was empty of people. This person is currently exploring their gender (and I use the term ‘their’ on purpose).
I am v concerned about the ‘queer’ side of things being posted on here - I had no idea that’s what it was. I’m so naive and prefer my world of vanilla sex and being fine w homosexuality/a bit confused re trans (cos I’m nearly 50 and getting my head around it).

I think this teaches children that gay people and trans people are sexual freaks and the most important thing about them is their freaky sexual behaviour.

Who the hell comes up with this shit?

What can we actually do about it?

Nothing to stop it, but inform people what is happening, make it clear it is happening right now, not some tinfoil hat vision of the future.

YANBU

This move to 'normalise' fetishes around children and introduce it into education is calculated.

There are several groups (of mainly childless men) who work with schools under the guise of 'diversity'. Scratch beneath the surface and you uncover more.

This is so disturbing. I have to go out but feel like I'm just having my eyes opened to something very important here and will properly research when back.

Hopefully will have a reply to my email, though I'm not holding my breath.

Also...why isn't this news? This should be bloody news!

I think this teaches children that gay people and trans people are sexual freaks and the most important thing about them is their freaky sexual behaviour.

Exactly.

Acceptance of gay people is saying to a child 'yes, your friend Ella does have two mummies, some people do'.

Or

'You know your cousin Mark is getting married Andrew, well they want you to be a pageboy, isn't that exciting?!'

Etc

Not this!!!

Also...why isn't this news?

You'll be surprised what the BBC, Guardian and so fourth refuse to print....

....Or not in the BBC's case as they have repeatedly covered up peodophile rings since the 70.

I agree this sounds completely inappropriate for children.

But can we please separate Trans from sexual practices please? The sexual practices in this exhibition aren't there because a person is trans. Trans is about how a person feels about themselves and their place in the world around them, not their sexual preferences.

But can we please separate Trans from sexual practices please? The sexual practices in this exhibition aren't there because a person is trans. Trans is about how a person feels about themselves and their place in the world around them, not their sexual preferences.

Huh?

Go and tell that to the people who created this exhibition!

I think this teaches children that gay people and trans people are sexual freaks and the most important thing about them is their freaky sexual behaviour.

I can't help wondering if those into queer theory have had a total irony and logic fail.

There were so many people on Twitter telling people that we were homophobic for having an issue with the NSPCC guy making his fetish life easily findable from his work profile.

We're all like - WTF - the issue is plainly that this guy works for the NSPCC and has no clue about safeguarding and is putting inappropriate content on the web that kids could easily come across because of his association with NSPCC and Munroe. Fuck all to do with his sexual orientation.

But no, we're all bigots apparently

It's a very effective tactic in shutting people down.

the sexual practices in this exhibition aren't there because a person is trans.

It's called kiss my genders.... Genders are very much enforced because of the trans-movement.

What about the Times? Wasn't it them who published the Tavistock scandal stuff? Surely they'll be interested in this.

I'm so if even half of this is true - I don't mean that I think it isn't - but it's clearly at best an adult exhibition that doesn't have adequate warning or age limits. I don't think I'd want to see it as a grown woman in my 30s. I'd have been traumatised as a sixth former, never mind primary schooler
Nothing wrong with nudity for artistic or sex ed purposes, but this sounds very disturbing...how has this happened that 'woke' is becoming standard and small kids are being indoctrinated with this stuff, and I'm a lifelong leftie

I am not on twitter, but can someone tweet some of the tabloids about this? Surely the Daily Mail would cover this?

I can maybe see why older secondary school children could go. Perhaps age 14/15+ but not primarily school age. Even then it would depend on the maturity of the individual child.

I really can’t think of a good reason for 4-12 years old children to see an exhibition like this. I’m all for art and don’t think we need to censor everything but things that are clearly in the sexual fetish category are too much for young children to fully comprehend and would probably leave them feeling confused.

My 9 (almost 10) year old is aware of what sex is. She knows what gay people are. She knows what trans people are. We have had age appropriate conversations around these subjects and knows that it’s ok to be who she is. We have talked about homophobia and discrimination and I answer all her questions as best I can. We have tried to be open around the topic of sex as much as we can be and she has asked a few questions here and there so I’m happy our approach is working. I want her to have the facts rather than get her information from playground rumours. At this age though I really wouldn’t want her watching or seeing most the stuff mentioned in that exhibition. She really doesn’t need to see a man getting a metal spike shoved in his arse or a arty film depicting gang rape. Far too young to be exposed to any of this stuff. I can see how this execution might help a confused teen who was struggling with their own feelings around sexuality and/or gender but really not appropriate for primary aged children.

I have a number of gay friends/ family members and actually have one trans friend so next time I see them I might ask them their opinion on this topic to see what they say. I have a feeling that most, if not all, of them would be equally as uncomfortable at the thought of primary aged children going to this exhibition.

The gallery is promoting this on Twitter today. twitter.com/haywardgallery/status/1138777764025262082?s=20

If it’s not suitable for children. Don’t take your children.

If you want to make your feelings known to the gallery, do that too.

But, “reporting” it (who on earth to??) and insisting it’s abusing children and paedophilic is way beyond logical.

Yes, I know children are abused, and yes sure, someone will come along and respond that they can conclusively prove there is a link to abuse and seeing these shows (but they actually can’t)

It’s art, if you don’t like it, move on.

insisting it’s abusing children and paedophilic is way beyond logical

On the train but couldn't resist another look...

I think you'll find showing graphic sexual images to children IS very much sexual abuse.

Whether you do it in a back bedroom or an art gallery.

I love contemporary art including a lot of things that others mock.
But yes it would be child abuse to take a child to this. And yes the gallery should be stopped from allowing any children to access it.

*exhibition not execution

The article you posted a link to had an agenda.

When I looked at the website advertising the actual exhibition, I saw no mention of this being an exhibition about porn or BDSM. This is just more catasrophising from the anti-trans movement, to get people worked up about something they have very little information on.

I took my kids to see the Moomin exhibition at the RFH a couple of years ago. They had to be at over 8 I believe or it as at least not recommended for younger children.

The fact that there is no such warning on this exhibition is entirely deliberate and its naive to think it's not

insisting it’s abusing children and paedophilic is way beyond logical.

Yeah it's only encouraging adults to take them to see art.....

But it's not is it, it's pornographic images with no age restriction on who views it.