To wonder why people have children when they clearly put their career first, by having a 24hr maternity nurse from day one and a full-time nanny from 3 months?

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Call me old fashioned but why bother when you are going to see your child for maybe an hour a day on weekdays?
It's not financially needed for mum to return to work (far from) so why leave your teeny weeny baby with a nanny during the most amazing time of their lifes?

A bit strange I fear!

lol batters, get them to rev her up and take her down the petrol stn and fill her up

ooh can I join you (andiem twirls in complete boden outfit and expensive shoes) would love a mojito anyone doing mark warner this year? we normally take the nanny too.....

Back to reality: Washing machine beeping, DS & DD need to wake up from their too-late nap. See you all later.

Children? They are serving the champers. THAT is why I had them.

LOl eleusis my mother used to really do that (make us hand round the nibbles at the start of parties and then send us upstairs to bed).

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christina, i do the too late nap thing too - then pay for it in spades later - life oh life, ooooooh liiiife, oh dear im rambling, and rocking, but you cant see that

For the OP - sorry if this sounds rude, but, what the hell has it got to do with you? And what sort of response do you think you're going to get? And surely, did you not think first about those women who enjoy their jobs and who have chosen to go back to work early? Have you wondered how they might feel by reading your OP? And plus, how do you KNOW the women doesn't need to go back to work? I know a family who on the outside look very well off with their brand new Merc convertible, and lots of other material objects, but actually the car is on a lease agreement, and they are mortgaged to the hilt therefore mum has had to go back to work.

Stop being so bloody judgemental.

gogetter, I assume you directed this comment at me: "Well thats just silly. A teenager is at school most of the day so surely most mums would work then?!"

Do most mums do that? So it is alright to work, irrespective of that teens' emotional needs, so long as that child is at school?

Well, my children go to fulltime day nursery from one year old. Glad you agree it is ok for me to work then.

Arbitrary.

Did i miss the party? Damnit!

" men can do the same as women. It's a myth perpetrated by women who want to stay home and men who want to keep them there that having a penis precludes you from cleaning the house and changing nappies"

Are you for real.Men do the same as us? Yes they try to but lets face it they are fairly limited and thats not a myth I am perpetuating its a fact.Mines not bad hes quite well trained and can do most things, but not as well as me!

NO man tells me what to do,everything I do is my choice. As for equality I knew from an early age that I was superior to men!! Fact is I am confident in that knowledge and never felt the need to battle with who does what.I never thought the choices I made would be the things that defined me. I actually enjoy being a mum, all aspects.I dont find it boring and mundane, I find it rewarding.Much more rewarding that my career.It doesnt make me a pushover.I actually think women are better at looking after children.... Isnt that why god gave us wombs and boobs
....I can hear xenia saying "yes cos hes a bloody man".

WHAATTTT? Are you for real, CP? In what areas are men innately 'not as good' as women?

My - male - partner is not as good as I am at remembering child-related stuff. That's related to culture, and upbringing, not to some genetically determined difference.

Sorry just think that we are better at everything

I know that makes me sexist but I dont care

CP - do you have sons?! Heaven help them if you look at them and think they are just inherently not as good at things as girls are...

lol

im pregnant with one!!!

lol at teh last few posts...by the way, I kind of agree with CP, to some extent...we definately, as women, have different instincts build in (and that is proven, too...i.e. women will be more likely roused by their child crying, etc...works the other way aswell, of course...men are of course good at things and have evolutionary different inclined instincts.)
I am not saying men don't bond wiht children, etc....but they re differntly wired.
I am not saying that the trend of evolution might change direction, somehow...obviously evolution will be influenced by the way people live over the centuries, etc...! So, who knows....women and men in the future may well look more alike and maybe we end up like snails and have both sexual organs (just lets hope we are allowed to keep the brains, eh....wouldn't want to be without one)...who knows...

CHOCOLATEPEANUT your good lol

We should recognise that men are different to women and that is IS genetic. There are certain parts of the brain that are more developed in the man than the woman, and vice verse. How many of you (women that is) have to turn the map around to the way you are travelling when navigating? It is accepted that men have better hand eye co-ordination than women. Can women multi-task and men not? Well maybe that is an over generalisation. I guess these differences may affect the way we parent as well. But it is not a case of who is better.

My DP is fantastic with his daughter, really fantastic but he battles to do things like change nappies now because she has him so wrapped around her little finger and she leads him a merry dance. Its often quicker if i do it, although for some reason she wants daddy (he he he he). Interestingly, i was a daddy's girl and also had my father wrapped around my little finger.

Oh Lucyellensmum, you are right...it's not a matter of being better at what, really....
And looks like you taught your dd well ;)

Interstingly though, I just remember something from a old thread, and not sure if my memory serves me right...but in that thread, I am pretty sure, Xenia actually mentioned she can't muster more respect for SAHD's neither....well, at least she isn't sexist.....
I can't remember which thread...it just came to my mind just now....

ah yeah but xenia isnt real, she is a MN plant to keep up the controversy. You gotta love her really.

no you haven't

lol, actually I have come to "love" Xenia....we are never gonna agree on many things, lol....but that is never a fact that I base my likes and dislikes on....
she is a character alright, lol...

Long and interesting thread. I had just decided that MrsM was more offensive than Xenia when chocolatepeanut did that last one. Frankly revolting. If some man said that sort of thing about you (maybe your "well trained dp" perhaps) how happy would you feel?

I don't think there is anything wrong with speculating about why other people make the choices they do, but as no one has ever produced a truly evidence based definition of the best way to parent ever then really people who live in glass houses...

Water off a ducks back

God were not worrying about offending men now are we? Thats a bit of a turn around.

The boys are more than capable of sticking up for themselves

Anyhow must add my dh is a lamb and I am lucky to have him