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To think green is unisex?

189 replies

Katiem1234 · 14/06/2019 11:30

I'm pregnant with my first baby, a girl. Green is my favourite colour and I've bought a fair few green baby clothes, I always thought green was a very unisex colour? However a friend has asked me why I've bought so many boy clothes and I presume jokingly said she takes it I was hoping for a boy... We've also got pinks, purples, yellows, creams etc.
Green is totally fine for a girl right? People aren't going to assume I just wanted a boy so dressed them in 'boys' clothes?

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Ringdonna · 14/06/2019 16:57

Son and DIL had a baby girl two days ago and everything is pink. Green is an awful colour for baby clothes in my opinion.

cinnabarmoth · 14/06/2019 17:00

All colours are unisex.

JasperRising · 14/06/2019 17:00

I think it hurts us a lot and is having really bad consequences for us that we try to deny the differences. We can demand in equality in right, I am the first one there, but let's not pretend we are similar.

But whatever our differences, we can wear green! Which was the OPs question. Especially as this ridiculous attitude to colour only applies to children. Plenty of adult women wear green, and blue, and red etc etc. There is no reason we should have to wear pink because we are born female.

And as a pp pointed out, in the past pink was a boys colour (because it is a weaker version of red which is the colour of war and manliness...) while pastel blue and yellow were for wishy washy girls... So there is no inherent colour for girls and colour for boys or it wouldn't be able to change.

origamiunicorn · 14/06/2019 17:01

Every colour is unisex, in parts of Europe pink is for a boy and blue for a girl. They're just colours.

FenellaMaxwell · 14/06/2019 17:03

We just bought stuff we liked in any colour. DS rocked pink, blue, green, purple..... nobody batted an eyelid.

GreenTulips · 14/06/2019 17:03

I have DTC - at 8 months DD knew which babygros were hers and which were her brothers - they understand very early on.

Hers however were different colors and never pink once she outgrew the gifted ones.

I hate the choice and separation of the sexes based on clothes and toys (even roams now) how horrid

JasperRising · 14/06/2019 17:04

And colour stereotypes behave got scarily ingrained. My super gender stereotype aware friend who studied gender, challenges every instance of stereotyping, gendered language etc etc admitted she saw me carrying DS when he was in pink pyjamas and briefly thought that i was carrying someone else's baby because of the pink clothes. Her brain just automatically assumed girl (and not that doesn't prove nature intended girls should wear pink it shows where advertising band lazy stereotypes had got us)

Isthisafreename · 14/06/2019 17:07

@MorondelaFrontera - Isthisafreename
no, you can't have it both ways.

How am I trying to have it both ways? Yes, there are physiological differences. There are not, however, any differences that require colour coding.

@bluebluezoo - There are very little physiological differences between boys and girls before puberty. Many governing bodies state this in their trans policies- up until puberty there is no advantage if a boy competes as a girl and vice versa.

Yes, I agree with you. I didn't mean that the physiological differences are apparent from birth, but rather that there are physiological differences at some stage. I do think mixed sports up until a certain age makes a lot of sense. It gives more opportunities to both boys and girls. Where I live, this is the case for some sports (rugby, some clubs for soccer).

NCforpoo · 14/06/2019 17:09

Wearing different colours doesn't make us less of women or men less of men.... that's a really weird stance to take. If that was the case then grown women would only wear pink and never navy or black, And grown men would never wear pink or purple.
Buy whatever you like OP! Your baby will not give a flying fuck for many many many months! And then will probably be more influenced by what you wear and do than anything else.
FFS. Sorry for getting annoyed.

NewAccount270219 · 14/06/2019 18:45

I think it hurts us a lot and is having really bad consequences for us that we try to deny the differences. We can demand in equality in right, I am the first one there, but let's not pretend we are similar.

Again, if the differences are so massive and significant then why do babies need colour coding at all? We don't colour code cats and dogs - or indeed adult men and adult women - so we can tell them apart, there's no need.

crosstalk · 14/06/2019 19:07

Morondela No one is denying there is a difference between boys and girls in terms of sex. EG, girls can be taller than boys aged 10, boys shoot up and develop differently slightly later.

However, the world has gone mad about genderising things like colours. If you were lucky as a poorer person you just got hand me downs. In the 18-19C you wore white dresses until you were 7 - with blue sashes if there was someone doing the laundry. Rich men in the 15-18 centuries in the UK very often outpeacocked women in whatever colour they chose.

Pink for girls really only came in in the 1930s in America with new dyes and coal tar derivatives like nylon and later polyester.

The problem with gendering children early (DD bakes a cake with DM, DS goes to football with DF; DD's Brownies teach her to knit while DS's Cubs take him camping and teach him to light fires) is that it (a) cuts both sexes off from things they might enjoy (b) feeds into the sad parents who think because their DS likes pink, prams and ballet that DS is transgender and (c) ignores the fact we're all on a spectrum of sex rather than gender attributes and we often change between those gender attributes.

I was very much a gender boy when I was young despite being born female - thank goodness my parents allowed me to go with the flow.

bluebluezoo · 14/06/2019 19:10

We don't colour code cats and dogs

Yeah. It’s starting. Pink collars for girls and leather studs for boys.

I recently got a dog and people being offended at you calling their bitch “he” is as much as a thing as with babies.

I sat in the vets and overheard one woman completely gender stereotyping her dogs and saying she needed to get a pink collar as the blue one was too butch.

Heyha · 14/06/2019 19:17

I love green, our sex-unknown PFB has lots of green clothes waiting for him/her as well as yellow, beige, grey, orange. I do think it's harder to get nice girls' clothes if you're avoiding pink than it is to get nice boys' clothes if you're avoiding blue, looking at the older children's stuff. Thank goodness for babygrows!

Heyha · 14/06/2019 19:21

Although my mum's face at one multipack I bought that had a BLACK babygrow in it.... 😂 never mind it's super-soft, well-made and practical, you can't put a baby in black, apparently!

gamerwidow · 14/06/2019 19:24

Green is a lovely colour and your DD won’t care what colour her clothes are. Be warned though people will think shes a boy but that’s no big deal imo.
Dd(8) favourite colours are blue and green we have buy a lot of stuff from the boys section because apparently the clothes manufacturers agree with your friend.

SeasideSoul · 14/06/2019 19:34

At what point are you allowed as a woman (or a man) to wear any colour

Never! My 54 year old husband has a hot pink shirt, which he looks gorgeous in Grin but my family take the piss every time he wears it because "pink is for girls".

Isthisafreename · 14/06/2019 19:48

@crosstalk - we're all on a spectrum of sex rather than gender attributes and we often change between those gender attributes.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean here? Sex is binary so can't be a spectrum. Gender attributes are definitely on a spectrum.

origamiunicorn · 14/06/2019 20:07

Green is a lovely colour and your DD won’t care what colour her clothes are. Be warned though people will think shes a boy

😂

crosstalk · 14/06/2019 20:10

Isthis You are right. We are on a gender spectrum. Very few people are on a sex spectrum.

crosstalk · 14/06/2019 20:15

Seaside my macho ex husband has worn pink shirts for ages. The only reason I object to red/yellow/green trousers on men is when I see numpties in corduroy parading around the country/seaside/infesting pubs. But I know I'm biased!

donquixotedelamancha · 14/06/2019 20:39

All colours are unisex Yeah this. Any adult who really thinks colours are related to genitals is too hard of thinking to be worth your time.

FiddleFaddleDingDong · 14/06/2019 20:47

To be entirely superficial for a moment, I find that pink is quite an unflattering colour for a lot of pink toned babies. Green is much more becoming to their complexions. Blue also.

Sleepyquest · 14/06/2019 20:50

We just painted our nursery green as we felt it was unisex Smile

EmmaJR1 · 14/06/2019 20:52

I hate these stereotypes! My 1 year old daughter was wearing an anime t-shirt and jeans the other day and people kept commenting on my beautiful baby boy, also my 2 year old son has long hair and is generally covered in bright primary coloured dinosaurs but I get what a pretty girl ALL the time... 🤷‍♀️

bluebluezoo · 14/06/2019 20:55

All colours are unisex Yeah this. Any adult who really thinks colours are related to genitals is too hard of thinking to be worth your time

Except it’s endemic in society and not colour coding your baby means you’re likely to have the same bloody conversations with everyone you meet. No, she’s a girl. Yes really. Nope, not a boy. Yes i realise she looks like a boy.

Although I recommend dressing your baby/toddler as the opposite sex (as in pink or blue) for just one day and going to the shops or to the park. It really highlights gender stereotypes and how expectations of behaviour are completely different. And how early it starts...