Chuka Umunna is a Labour supporter, no he's for Change UK, no he's now a LibDem

[longwayoff]

Apparently. Nothing like having a firm set of beliefs and principles.

I came on to post something that would entirely agree with figment. Of course you can change your mind, mature ideologically, learn new ways of thinking. He's never going to be a Tory. People change.

I consider myself somewhere between Lib Dem, Green, and some incarnations of Labour. I wouldn't be averse to voting Tory depending on the available local alternative (my home constituency was split Lib/Tory - if the Lib candidate was not suitable/commendable, I'd consider Tory, for example).

I loathe hearing of people who commit for all eternity to one party. It's not the point, and it's very damaging to politics not to move your vote with how you think a) YOUR current values are represented and b) how well the CURRENT iteration of that party represents those values and c) the integrity and character of the individual you are voting for.

(I was disgusted that Nick Clegg was replaced by that vile creature Jared O'Mara - which is nothing to do with which party either represents)

YABU - I've moved from Labour to Libdems myself, after the disastrous opposition Labour have shown in the face of an open goal. They've been crap.
I like the new Libdem leader candidates.
Libdems aren't perfect, but less crap than the other parties imo

Were he driven by personal career ambitions he'd have stayed at Labour and waited for Corbyn to be ousted before having a run at the leadership of one of the two major parties.

But it seems the Corbyn supporters will paint anyone who doesn't fall in line with Dear Leader to be ideologically impure.

If he was a stick of rock 'Tory' would be written right through him.

I consider myself somewhere between Lib Dem, Green, and some incarnations of Labour. I wouldn't be averse to voting Tory depending on the available local alternative (my home constituency was split Lib/Tory - if the Lib candidate was not suitable/commendable, I'd consider Tory, for example).
If you were a stick of rock 'Tory' would be written right through you.

Can I just point out that Labour are not ‘far left’? Their manifesto last time round was stuff that is routinely and uncontroversially social democrat left-of-centre in most of Europe and Scandinavia.
www.opendemocracy.net/en/can-europe-make-it/jeremy-corbyn-mainstream-scandinavian-social-democrat/

They are also considerably less anti-Semitic than other parties, and than the population at large.

They are also considerably less anti-Semitic than other parties
So why are they the first UK political party to be under investigation by the EHRC for anti-semitism?

Because complaints were made to the EHRC.

Its interesting that the Tories being alied with antisemitic parties in the EU, and having a leadership candidate who meets with Bannon, has other members that talk about Soros and "elites" don't get the same level. There are of course other grass roots problems just like Labour have.

But the Tories are never held to the same level of scrutiny.

You are quite proud of that phrase joystir.

He criticises Jeremy Corbyn then swaps parties without calling a by election because he has ZERO principles.

Yes, annoying isn’t it @Fibbke?

Zipee I don't want the Labour party to be just as bad at anti semitism as the Tories. God I could weep.

I know, and no one is saying that its been badly dealt with.

However there is a level of political expediency for some people to keep raising the issue.

Had Corbyn made the citizens of nowhere speech, the comparisons with Stalin's "rootless cosmopolitans" would have been everywhere.
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It's not good enough for me I am afraid. And it's not just political expediency, for certain sections of the Labour party it's part of the code, and until people acknowledge that it will continue.

"for some parts of the Labour party its part of the code".

You see there is no evidence of this, there is evdience of it being a problem for a very small minority within the party.

And yes political expediency, when its never mentioned about other parties issues with antisemitism at all. Farage and his tropes on infowars got like half a days reporting on the news. How many complaints were there from different groups about boris and JRM meeting Banon? How many of them made front page news?

@cardibach yes though Momentum are trying to change that. Labour have been infiltrated. They are no Labour anymore.

not* bloody phone

WhiteRose do you have evidence of that? Momentum are more left than most of the party, but what do you mean by ‘infiltrated’? They support Corbyn and his not-hard-left-at-all policies.

Sorry, many, not most. Corbyn has massive support amongst the membership.

I agree that the painting of Corbyn as hard left is ridiculous.

But the Overton window has shifted so fsr right in the UK that policies of centre right parties in other countries are regarded as far left.

Think it's fine to change political parties but totally wrong not to have a by-election so your constituents can decide if they still want you representing them under a new party.

This.

Corbyn has massive support among the membership

Not any more, he has a small majority (54%) of the membership supporting him.

www.businessinsider.com/election-data-poll-corbyn-support-drops-among-labour-members-2017-3

I've just noted, on posting the URL, that the article I've posted is very out of date! Anyone got something more recent?