AIBU to say that if you work in child protection you shouldn't post pictures of yourself wanking at work in fetish gear?

[ArcheryAnnie]

People do all kinds of things in their private life, and - as long as it's all consensual, and involving adults, in private - that's absolutely fine with me. Even if it involves fetish stuff that I find deeply unsexy. It's your private time and your business.

But if you bring your fetish into work, that's really inappropriate. Involving other people in your kink without their consent is not OK.

If you bring your fetish into work and take time to entertain yourself in the loos with it, that's way, way beyond really inappropriate.

If you work in child protection campaigning, and bring your fetish into work, and take time to entertain yourself in the loos with it, and take a photo of yourself while doing it, and upload that photo onto the internet, then you probably need to consider whether a career in child protection is really for you.

(And if you are doing this while working on campaigns about abused and neglected children, you should not be surprised when people ask what made you so aroused.)

And dear NSPCC - who I used to have a direct debit to, and who used to be in my will - people objecting to this are not being homophobic or "bullying". Many of who are objecting to your staff member's actions are ourselves gay. We just seem to have a better grasp of safeguarding than you do.

OvaHere Thank you for clarifying that, I thought it was the title the amateur pornography gave to his "work".

BertrandRussell

What?! They must realise that comes across as abuse is dependant on the reaction of the child.

So who is there to help all those children who are groomed and think those things are ok? What happened to the pants campaign?!

I do online dating and judging by some of the material men send me I can confidently say there are a lot of heterosexual men who spend time wanking in works toilets and filming it also. This is not acceptable behaviour by anyone, gay or straight and is one of the reasons I object to using gender neutral toilets or allowing male people into women's facilities. It has nothing to do with bullying gay people.

If someone is caught doing this and their company is linked to it in any way obviously this must be gross misconduct?

I am not googling this idiot at work, but Twitter suggests that he might have filmed it while working for Ann Summers (where, who knows, it may be seen as the sign of a really engaged employee) rather than NSPCC.

Looks like NSPCC need higher standards though.

I find it very troubling that the NSPCC haven't sacked him. No, they're defending this gross man and talking about criticism of his obscene conduct as "bullying".

This is yet another example of regulatory capture, where organisations are corrupted by infiltration they don't even register.

The date on the video upload was 2017 and he’s been working at the NSPCC since 2015.

The whole thing is as creepy AF. And the fact that NSPCC deappointed MB within days of their appointment suggests due diligence was not done in the first place.

I see a lot of Twitter users up in arms at the injustice of this bloke’s “private interests” being used to “harass” him at his work.

We women are now understanding the difference between those men and women who enjoy their kinks in private, and those men (rarely women) who are into rubber and furries who publicly post their kinks on public forums. For some reason these kinks are now part of LGBT and are therefore deemed to be something acceptable eg at Pride, and fine for children to see.

I still remember the NSPCC webchat when they refused to answer safeguarding questions. They have lost all credibility with me.

Who are these people who can’t get through a work day without knocking one out?

What happened to the pants campaign?!

P in PANTS - Privates are Private.
In the latest episode of couldn't make it up :
JM linkedin
"I project manage the NSPCC’s key fundraising products, including Letter From Santa, NSPCC Raffle & Weekly Lottery, PANTS pack..."

relevent threads:
(discussion re OP from p16)
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3605120-Munroe-Childline-s-first-LGBT-campaigner

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3611447-Potential-Systemic-Safeguarding-failures-in-NSPCC-Childline-illustrated-by-appointment-ending-of-relationship-with-Munroe-Bergdorf-Thread-2

[[NSPCC statement by CEO Peter Wanless
www.nspcc.org.uk/what-we-do/news-opinion/munroe-bergdorf]]

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3609218-Hi-from-Safe-Schools-Alliance-UK

apologies for broken link above:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3611447-Potential-Systemic-Safeguarding-failures-in-NSPCC-Childline-illustrated-by-appointment-ending-of-relationship-with-Munroe-Bergdorf-Thread-2

OFGS!

Statement by NSPCC CEO Peter Wenless: www.nspcc.org.uk/what-we-do/news-opinion/munroe-bergdorf

This really is utterly bizarre. Why the fuck is a child protection organisation grovellingly apologising to a person who endorses the sexualization of children?

This really is utterly bizarre. Why the fuck is a child protection organisation grovellingly apologising to a person who endorses the sexualization of children?

Lobbying?
Fear?
Lack of judgement?

I refuse to accept this as acceptable in my workplace. I don’t care what your sexual orientation is. Just no. Do whatever the fuck you want at home as long as it’s legal, but don’t bring it to work. And no, having a wank is not the same as having a shit. One is a physical need and the other is not.

This endless peddling of the idea that men need sex on their terms is insidious and damaging. It’s not ok to have a wank at work and no you don’t ‘need one’. That impinges on my rights to do the most basic things like go to the loo without having to listen to people masturbating.

JFC. It’s a fucking nightmare. When will they stop with the fucking apologizing and groveling and second-guessing and appeasing and soothing?

It was the right fucking call to bin MB. Own it, Peter, the NSPCC made a colossal mistake in hiring them (that’s what you should be apologizing for) then you fixed it (that needs no fucking apology) and now all that remains to be done is to tell the TRA bully crew to all
kindly FUCK OFF!

"just been paid to wank at work.
He's just been paid wages donated by the public to a charity to wank at work.
That alone for me is reason enough for him to get disciplined."

People get paid to smoke at work....whuch one does the most harm?

Depends how long it takes ypu to have a wank

Professor Rosa Freedman (University of Reading Law, Conflict & Global Development ) comment:

(extract)
"THREAD ON CHILD SAFEGUARDING AND THE NSPCC: For the past three years I have been researching and working on child safeguarding in conflict and crisis zones. The international child safeguarding standards, developed by @ keepchildsafe provide a tool for implementing child safeguarding across organisations ranging from local book clubs to multinational institutions.

An overall approach to safeguarding children is rooted in understanding the risks to children from the organisation, (its staff, programme and operations). [continues]

concludes:
The criticisms being levelled against the NSPCC are not about individuals being homosexual or transgender, just as the criticisms being levelled against Oxfam are not about individuals being heterosexual white men. The criticisms levelled are about organisations taking responsibility for ensuring that people working with children uphold the organisation’s policies on child safeguarding.

Publishing photographs of your genitals whilst in an NSPCC building violates child safeguarding standards and goes against the organisation's values. Encouraging children to contact you privately violates child safeguarding standards and goes against the organisation's values.

That is not to say that either individual has harmed or would ever harm a child – the issue is not about what they have done but about whether they uphold or contravene the organisation's child safeguarding robust policies and procedures.

The issue is about ensuring that the organisation has robust measures in place to ensure child safeguarding standards are implemented and upheld across the organisation.

The organisation's responsibility is to the children it works with and the communities it serves, and part of that responsibility is ensuring that its values and that international child safeguarding standards are implemented and upheld. END"

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Cancelling my direct debit this afternoon and will be telling them why. NSPCC can fuck off.

It's not okay to wear fetish gear at work and involve people unwittingly in arousing you.

People's unwitting participation is wrong. There is no informed consent. Just because you don't know it's happening to you doesn't make it acceptable.

And it's not only about this specific individual. It's the normalisation of relaxing boundaries that results in a safeguarding issue.

The fact people are saying he doesn't have direct contact with children, or children didn't actually see him, demonstrate they don't understand.

Normalising sexual behaviour at work is a predator's dream. And if not addressed they will flock to the NSPCC, and may already have done so.

Excellent statement from Rosa Freedman.

"involve people unwittingly in arousing you."

So if I am attracted to someone and they arouse me .....I have done something wrong