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What would you do?

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giantnannyknickers · 12/06/2019 14:01

Ex has decided to stop paying maintenance for his kids. We have a maintenance agreement so he's legally bound so I'm forced to yet again take legal action against him. Would you stop him from seeing the kids as a result? My gut is telling me this only hurts the kids. So I haven't actually done this.

But He's also stopped picking them up which means I've a 30 minute round trip to facilitate visitation. It's shitting me that he's not paying anything, it's costing me money on petrol and he's still getting to play happy families with the kids despite his actions.

What would you do?

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giantnannyknickers · 15/06/2019 19:58

@pinkandsparkles yes I've been looking for work. What I'll earn I'll probably pay out in child care but id rather be self sufficient and to be honest I'm at home full time with two small kids I think it would do my head the world of good to be out working with other adults.

I was the higher income earner originally and gave it all up to support him in our business ( silly girl that I am) which meant he has sole financial control over everything.

I might ask the judge to consider a once off lump sum payment of maintenance so that I don't have this issue going forward.

Ideally I would love to earn enough that I don't have to ask him for a penny more.

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giantnannyknickers · 15/06/2019 20:00

@hazell42 I hope I can be as brave and strong as you.

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giantnannyknickers · 15/06/2019 20:01

@WhiteRedRose I'm not sure, I think the wedding is set for next year so I'd have to re-apply then, but who knows maybe I'll win the Euro millions in the mean time.

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oneforthepain · 15/06/2019 20:14

Reading your posts over the last two pages, I don't think you're giving yourself credit here for how determined, courageous and strong you really are. And you still have a sense of humour.

It's not that you lack strength, it's that you've got a hell of a lot to take on. But it sounds like you're making significant strides with it.

I hope the meeting you've arranged in Munster proves helpful. The more people you can enlist to help you with whatever contribution they can make the better.

Chesntoots · 15/06/2019 21:43

Her money will not be taken into account at all for CM purposes even if they are married.

They are not her children so she is in no way financially responsible for them.

You have a lot on your plate and I can't imagine how stressful it is for you. Be kind to yourself. You are doing great. Don't let the twat get into your head and make you think otherwise!

pinkandsparkles · 16/06/2019 09:47

You are not silly you just trusted someone who turned out to be (insert whatever you would like to call him here!) There is nothing wrong with that and it is a reflection of how kind you are. That's a really good quality to have. Moving forward you'll always make sure you have number one covered so that no one can touch you ever again. You can still be the kind, supportive person that you are, but you can also protect yourself at the same time.

It would definitely do you the world of good being able to get out and have that you time where you are not mummy but you're you. The time to focus on other things and have some other stimulation is priceless.

I'm not entirely sure whether the judge would go for that or even be able to enforce it to be honest. However, even if that did happen, that could then let him off the hook down the line. Money goes quickly and he should still have that expectation to financially support them for many more years to come. You need to look at the long term.

You're clearly an intelligent woman and there is nothing to stop you from achieving anything you set your sights on. Know your own worth and keep reminding yourself how much you've achieved and how amazing you're doing right now.

In terms of your own finances independent to him, you have to keep thinking... Even if you don't have a lot, what you do have is YOURS and he cannot touch that or control it.

giantnannyknickers · 16/06/2019 22:18

Thanks so much for all your kind words. I'm feeling very empowered to become financially independent now, the more I think about it the more I'm sure I can do it. As today was Father's Day i had a rare day off from both kids for the whole day- he normally doesn't take the 11 month old for more than 4 hours. And it was actually really nice to have time off so I guess I should be grateful he does want to remain a part of their lives. I just hope to god I can protect them from the traits my ex has clearly inherited from his father before him. And I hope I can teach them enough self awareness and self love to learn to walk away from situations like I've landed my self in.

Does anyone have any tips on how to numb the pain? Like the constant worry that the next 20 years will be like this? It's that dread that makes me think sometimes that I can't go on. I love my babies but I can't go on like this forever.

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BananasAreTheSourceOfEvil · 16/06/2019 22:31

I’m in Ireland (Munster too).I’ve had much of this type of shit with my ex. If you want to pm me I might be able to help you a bit? There’s some things he’s saying that are a load of shit I can see from your posts (need to go and reread them properly as I got so cross with him on your behalf I don’t think I took it all in!).

Do you mind me asking if you were married? Do you have an order for access that stipulates days and times?

pinkandsparkles · 17/06/2019 06:55

You can do it! GrinGrinGrin

You don't need to be 'grateful'. They are his children. He isn't doing you or them a favour. You don't owe him anything. Be wary of this anyway. They often use children and given that it was fathers day it wouldn't have been very good for his image if he hadn't had them as being the doting dad, kind, respectable person etc to the outside world would it? The issues are still there in the sense that it is all on his terms and he can change the goalposts at any given moment. I hope you know I mean this in the kindest way. I would hate for you to get hurt if he changes tact again just when you're starting to feel more positive. It's self preservation more than anything xx

The Freedom Programme will help a lot with that to help you detach and ease how you are feeling. It will take time but it will help.

If you can, surround yourself with people who are going to support you and give that reassurance when you're feeling down and doubting things. This is what you will hopefully get from your meeting this week if you don't have anyone personally who will do this. Be really honest with them about all the historical abuse and current.

Seek that legal advice and get yourself in a better position. This will pay off for the children as they get older and especially as they start school. They need stability so something that is better suited to their needs would be great. Get it nipped in the bid whilst they're still young so you can all move forward and know what is happening day to day. Get rid of the worry as to whether he will return the children or not. If it was the other way round, he would be down on you like a ton of brick with the law.

Focus on yourself and your children. Don't let his actions overshadow being able to enjoy them whilst they are so young. They grow so quickly! Look at finding a bit of work. As said before, it will do you the world of good to have you time and focus on something else. At the moment, this is all consuming.

It's so cliché but with the right support, it really is just a matter of time! The more support, and the more knowledge you gain, the easier things will be. It won't always be plain sailing but it won't be anywhere near like it has been.

You'll manage to do that for your children I have no doubt. It's also learning about the early warning signs of an abuser which will enable someone to walk away before they become too involved and no longer can. This is something they teach in the Freedom Programme. The knowledge you gain can be used for yourself and others. It's invaluable.

So good to hear you feeling more positive. What date is your meeting? Xx

giantnannyknickers · 17/06/2019 09:33

I'm here waiting for my girl to be returned. He's already 30 mins late and I've missed an appointment already this morning because of him. He returned my son home 30 mins early last week. So fucking mad right now.

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AryaStarkWolf · 17/06/2019 09:51

I've missed an appointment already this morning because of him

Why, if he didn't turn up on time, you should have left......I'm quite sure that's what he would have done if it were reversed

giantnannyknickers · 17/06/2019 16:20

@AryaStarkWolf I didn't want to let my daughter down. I was looking forward to seeing her 😞

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AryaStarkWolf · 17/06/2019 17:10

@giantnannyknickers I know but this is why cunts like him get away with what they do because they're counting on you being too soft

giantnannyknickers · 17/06/2019 22:13

@AryaStarkWolf ok next time I'll try be more resilient. I did ask him again about child support today and he said he might be able to afford some now. And I said that's funny cause you've plenty of money for Bali, France, an engagement ring AND building a new house. He just walked away from me.

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pinkandsparkles · 22/06/2019 16:05

@giantnannyknickers how did your meeting go?

giantnannyknickers · 22/06/2019 22:56

@pinkandsparkles I've a lot of paperwork to do before I can get the proper supports in place so just working my way through that. Just had a friend over tonight who suggested that the Only way to really break free from my ex is to get financial independence. So must check out all my options about getting back into the work force. I've signed up to a course to study to help me get a job.

Ex has been a dickhead again this week (I'm only allowed five the kids to him when they've been fully napped ~ he doesn't want to deal with tired kids etc) but I've just been so busy with paperwork for legal aid and the kids I haven't really engaged and it's been nice to take a step back from him.

Thanks for thinking of me. I was really down last week over things, just physically ill and worn out from all the drama.

On a good note - he got a really bad google review lately from a customer so karma is working a small bit Smile

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giantnannyknickers · 08/07/2019 20:42

I'm not sure if anyone will read this update but I'm feeling really lonely and need to get it off my chest.

I'm in bed crying. I've just heard through the grapevine that my ex has bought himself a third house and he's protesting that he's broke and he is still not paying child maintenance.

Legal aid have told me it's a 4 month wait to get support.

It's so obvious now that he has hidden assets left right and centre when we got the business valued.

He's made such a fool of me.

Everyone has said he will get his karma, it will all come back to bite home. But here he is newly engaged with a new house and I'm languishing with 3 kids.

I'm soooo overwhelmed and utterly exhausted from raising them. I don't even know if I want to be a mum anymore I'm that broken. I'm so lonely.

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TheGodmother · 08/07/2019 21:38

Oh darling. I feel your pain. What would you rather have, those 3 houses or your kids?

Exactly!

No matter what he thinks he has, he doesn't! He's a vile prick!

You have your wonderful DCs.

Fuck him. Ignore him, enjoy your kids.

The bitterness and anger does start to go eventually and all you'll feel is sympathy for his next "victim".

You are a strong and amazing lady! Fuck him and his shit life! He'll never be happy! You will!!!!

Rojelio · 08/07/2019 21:56

I'm not great at knowing what to write but just wanted to put that I've been reading your thread and rooting for you, there are lots of people on this thread who are rooting for a good outcome for you too, sorry you're feeling so rubbish tonight but just know you are a good person and in time good things will come Thanks
Don't let the bastard bring you down Brew

MissB83 · 08/07/2019 22:22

Another voice to the mix to say that you sound so strong OP, even if you don't feel it. I've only got one child and his dad is a shit as well but nothing compared to your ex, and even that has nearly broken me at times. I can't believe you've carried on with this so long. You do need to put yourself and your kids first and maybe go back to court to look at the orders again as it sounds like he's very abusive and the arrangement isn't in the children's best interests if he won't meet you halfway. I hope you will look into some of the domestic violence programmes suggested and speak to someone to get some more support, and/or legal advice. Thanks

giantnannyknickers · 09/07/2019 22:40

@TheGodmother thanks so much! I know right fuck him. I need to focus on myself and not all his drama.

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giantnannyknickers · 09/07/2019 22:42

@Rojelio everything you just said was perfect. Thanks so much. I feel embarrassed today now cause the tears have gone, I took the kids out all day long in the sun and we had a good day.

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giantnannyknickers · 09/07/2019 22:46

@MissB83 yes your right I need to get back to working with some support systems. I'm starting to recognise certain things are triggers now.

I asked him how he can afford another house and not pay child support but he's said he can't even afford this most recent purchase.

I've been told this latest house has been bought with cash.

Surely this is money laundering? How can anyone afford to buy 3 houses with cash is beyond me. When we got the business valued he said he was up to his eyeballs in debt and the business was valued at less than half of what it should have been as a result.

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