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Pro-paedo t-shirts on sale in Manchester

159 replies

DJLippy · 11/06/2019 20:03

I saw this in Manchester Canal Street this afternoon. or those that don't know "boy love" is code for the sexual attraction of men to pubescent and adolescent boys.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association

I am SICKENED. Paedophiles have no place in the LGBT community. The fact that this is being displayed in broad day light. Equally disgusted and dismayed.

I got so angry I compiled a tweet.

twitter.com/makemorenoise1/status/1138511812155072513

I am bisexual and I feel like my community is being hijacked by fetishists. I just saw this by chance in town today and I am appalled. Gay rights have NOTHING to do with this shit. We are being tarred with this brush. NO!

LGBT rights have been hard won. I am dismayed by the failure of gay right organisations to address this growing problem. If this scandal breaks who will take the blame? LGBT folk want nothing to do with these monsters. It's time our leaders put our house in order.

Pro-paedo t-shirts on sale in Manchester
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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 11/06/2019 21:38

The only two ways I have ever heard boy love used are to describe adult / child sexual "relationships" or a particular form of porn where the protagonists are all underage males.

The OP is not overreacting.

DJLippy · 11/06/2019 21:39

Isn't the whole paedophiles 'infiltrating' the LGBT community thing a 4chan hoax? Paedo's aren't walking around advertising themselves of a t-shirt ffs.

Except this whole post is based on them doing exactly that. "Boy love" as a term is a red flag that is recognised by the FBI when they search online for child molesters.

Once again - shit like this has NOTHING to do with the gay community. It is being hijacked by paedophiles. See PIE

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26352378

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Justanotherlurker · 11/06/2019 21:39

4chan posters creating fake memes is very much a documented thing. No idea what a ‘culture war’ is.

Yeah of course you don't

If you think canal street is subjectivity pushing some peado conspiracy whilst ignoring the girl love tshirts then I am sure you won't have an issue with the OK hand gesture,

This thread is why MN is turning into a more joke than what it is, as I stated previously, call it out on twitter on your own user name instead of hiding behind anonymity trying to call up recruits.

Sparklesocks · 11/06/2019 21:43

Justanotherlurker what? If you read the thread you’ll see that I said I didn’t believe it was anything more than a T-shirt..

Sorry you aren’t making much sense.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 11/06/2019 21:44

This Twitter thread is well.worth a read:

twitter.com/PankhurstEM/status/991258039511670784?s=19

restmysole · 11/06/2019 22:03

And if you read what @itsallgoing to be fine posted, about "the handbook", including the bit about normalising nakedness first before then going for normalising other things, then do a search for a mumsnet thread about the naked swims going on in major cities around the country - where anyone can go in and swim amongst naked children. They first said they had safeguarding in place approved by NSPCC but surprise surprise NSPCC said they hadn't been involved. Yet the naked swims are continuing. As are the naked days out to theme parks - everyone is welcome, apparently.

TheRedBarrows · 11/06/2019 22:22

You get very very different results googling ‘boy love’ and ‘boylove’ And boylove is utterly horrifying. I am shocked at The material openly accessible on a normal browser. The Christian Boylove Forum which states on its homepage that temptation (in response to boys) is not a sin, sex is but it is understandable and forgivable if you give in to it once in a while. Sickening. How are these people not prosecuted or shit down?

I agree OP, paedophilic is going strong out there. The ‘MAP’ /NOMAP’ thing on Twitter is chilling.

However I honestly wouldn’t see that T shirt in the context of paediphilia.

HennyPennyHorror · 11/06/2019 22:24

I've seen young women in T shirts which say "BOYS!" and "BOYS, BOYS,BOYS"

It's not what you're saying.

DJLippy · 11/06/2019 22:28

I think it is naive of people to assume that the people who designed this window display had no idea what "boylove" might mean and how it could be misinterpreted.

The gay community has been slurred for many years with criticism that paints them as paedophiles. Its pride month. Why are they acting in such a tone deaf manner?

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OneHanded · 11/06/2019 22:29

As a member of ‘your community’ you’re being big frankly bloody ridiculous.

WhiteRedRose · 11/06/2019 22:33

So Men can't be Boys without it being paedo-y... but Women can always be referred to as Girls?

Ok.

justanswerthephone · 11/06/2019 22:37

I think it is naive of people to assume that the people who designed this window display had no idea what "boylove" might mean and how it could be misinterpreted.

Why? Half the people on this thread don't see it, what makes you think a couple of shop people doing a window display would?

WhiteRedRose · 11/06/2019 22:41

Also OP paedos can be gay, straight, bi, identify as toasters... Whatever.

Why are you up in arms about them supposedly infiltrating the lgbt community when they are (most likely) equal in numbers across all.

I mean autogynaephiles ffs. They are men and mtf that get off on dressing as little innocent girls.

They are prevalent in ALL communities.

Be angry that paedos exist, not that someone thought it would be cute to have a tshirt that says Boy Love on it. Given that their target market for the tshirt is possibly also teenage boys! Who will still refer to fancying other males as 'being in love with boys'. 🙄

titchy · 11/06/2019 22:41

what makes you think a couple of shop people doing a window display would?

They're not students dressing Top Shop. A independent clothes store in Canal St knows exactly who it's clientele are and what it wants to say via its display.

titchy · 11/06/2019 22:45

And paedophiles are attempting to get themselves accepted as part of Stonewall groups. So yes, paedophiles appear in all walks of life, but they don't gain credibility by getting themselves union exec roles, or neighbourhood watch organisers.

They DO get credibility and normalisation by getting Stonewall and Pride to include them.

beeyourself · 11/06/2019 22:46

I'm with you OP

Lumene · 11/06/2019 22:47

And people wonder why MN has the wider internet culture of being a joke...

I don’t see that it does, amongst anyone with critical thinking. It does reflect an unusually wide range of people, perspectives and opinions, given parenting is a common denominator across every section of society.

Also if you believe this, why on earth would you be reading/posting here?

GodDammitAmy · 11/06/2019 22:58

And today I saw this

jennymanara · 11/06/2019 23:54

Totally agree with you OP. Even wikipedia says boy love means paedophilia. But people want to see innocent explanations. They don't want to believe this kind of thing can be in plain site. So they don't believe you.

SleepAllDay7 · 12/06/2019 00:58

As others have guesses, the '10' on that 'Love is Love' image was photoshopped on (16 in the original, which still raises an eyebrow but isn't peadophillia).

The OP seems to have fallen for, and spread, some anti-LGBT fake news.

Nickpan · 12/06/2019 01:14

nearly as funny as the 'Elton John died of AIDS before it was invented' thread!
And the amount of posters who seem to saying "oooh, I never thought of it that way - it could be paedo's y'know!"

Fuck's sake.

Nickpan · 12/06/2019 01:16

How many pop songs mentions boys, but aren't about children?
'Lots', is how many.
"Lets down a metric shit ton of Prosecco, then go out and find some boys!", lots of women and homosexuals say before a night out, but they don't mean children.

Nickpan · 12/06/2019 01:42

OP, great fool, panicking over the North American use of the 'boy love' phrase... following your wiki link, they don't seem like much of an organisation these days. You're pinning so much evidence on this, but look at the highlighted words. A handful of members. Not much influence.

Pro-paedo t-shirts on sale in Manchester
Gingerkittykat · 12/06/2019 01:54

Googline boy love with and without a space gave the exact same results!

I had heard that the P were trying to attach to the LGBT to make themselves seem like any other sexuality, but interesting to note that it may have been started by 4chan.

I am in the UK and had heard of boy love, but no idea if it is widely known about here.

The T shirt with the age 10 is truly horrific though.

I would start some publicity if you are worried, maybe a local newspaper?

SleepAllDay7 · 12/06/2019 02:03

The T shirt with the age 10 is truly horrific though.
Yes but it's a doctored image. The original said 16 (which frankly I still think is creepy). It appears to have become a minor meme and, at some point, someone altered the '16' to '10' and now it appears on anti gay-marriage pages. It appears to be anti-gay, rather than pro-peadophile, propaganda.