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Pro-paedo t-shirts on sale in Manchester

159 replies

DJLippy · 11/06/2019 20:03

I saw this in Manchester Canal Street this afternoon. or those that don't know "boy love" is code for the sexual attraction of men to pubescent and adolescent boys.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association

I am SICKENED. Paedophiles have no place in the LGBT community. The fact that this is being displayed in broad day light. Equally disgusted and dismayed.

I got so angry I compiled a tweet.

twitter.com/makemorenoise1/status/1138511812155072513

I am bisexual and I feel like my community is being hijacked by fetishists. I just saw this by chance in town today and I am appalled. Gay rights have NOTHING to do with this shit. We are being tarred with this brush. NO!

LGBT rights have been hard won. I am dismayed by the failure of gay right organisations to address this growing problem. If this scandal breaks who will take the blame? LGBT folk want nothing to do with these monsters. It's time our leaders put our house in order.

Pro-paedo t-shirts on sale in Manchester
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Redshoeblueshoe · 11/06/2019 20:48

I agree with titchy. The shops in Canal Street know exactly what they are doing

dontfluffthefluffer · 11/06/2019 20:48

@Breathlessness 🤣🤣 it's a good 'un

TheFatberg · 11/06/2019 20:49

I have to laugh at the typo in your tweet. T-shits.

Oakenbeach · 11/06/2019 20:51

Does this mean wanting a boyfriend make you a paedo Confused?

Jonette · 11/06/2019 20:54

I would see it as a gay t-shirt which teenage lads might buy if they were gay? I've no idea. It's not promoting paedophilia, whatever North Americans might say. Manchester is somewhat different.

TurboTeddy · 11/06/2019 20:55

Not sure about the T shirt.....

But I agree with you OP, I think people are being incredibly naive. This is being snuck in as just one more orientation.

I think the numbers are small at the moment but there is absolutely a movement to normalise adult/child relationships as another orientation, I believe the people pushing for this like to be referred to as paedosexual. The movement seems to be piggybacking the gay and trans rights movement just as PIE did in the 80's.

Mysterian · 11/06/2019 20:56

The photo of the poster has been faked. Look closely and the zero doesn't look right. I believe it was originally a 6. I assume a homophobic person altered it to make LGBT people look bad.

RosaWaiting · 11/06/2019 20:58

I hope it's faked, but given the sexualisation of children....actually you know what, I don't even have children and this conversation is too depressing.

so let's just hope it's fake.

BogglesGoggles · 11/06/2019 20:59

Have they responded to your tweet? I expect it was just a case of ignorance (I had no idea until this thread)

Yabbers · 11/06/2019 21:01

@Mysterian

I agree, the 10 is definitely photoshopped.

FiddlesticksAkimbo · 11/06/2019 21:02

YABU (and a little bit paranoid). Some
young men up to the age of around 25 refer to themselves as boys. Two 20 year olds in a couple could well be an example of boy love.

Sparklesocks · 11/06/2019 21:05

Justanotherlurker 4chan posters creating fake memes is very much a documented thing. No idea what a ‘culture war’ is.

www.mediamatters.org/blog/2018/12/23/how-hoax-lgbtq-community-embracing-pedophiles-went-viral/221394

Lilymossflower · 11/06/2019 21:08

I don't think this is an innocent mistake.

I think this is deliberate subliminal messaging.

lesbian-rights-nz.org/2019/03/14/getting-the-l-out-of-the-park/?fbclid=IwAR2KtN0iDGzMZBei1OYZ1YQsaSJ96_CPdIm0dW5SJFqk7i2JllgatI7XicA

I think there's a hidden agenda going on, and unfortunately and undeservedly gays are having to deal with the bullshit

LoveMyNewHome · 11/06/2019 21:09

The only person making this connection is the OP! Enough said! Hmm

IsabellaLinton · 11/06/2019 21:13

I think people are being incredibly naive. This is being snuck in as just one more orientation.

Absolutely it is. People are loathe to believe it, but it’s true.

Whoever happens to be reading this thread in a few years time - some of us saw this coming.

Hopeygoflightly · 11/06/2019 21:19

I don’t see that in any other way than it being a cutesy way of a guy saying i’m gay... i’ve Seen girl love ones in Pride colours too...

PanteneProV · 11/06/2019 21:23

I have to say I was completely oblivious to the pedophile meaning of the phrase, I just thought ‘boys who love boys’ when I saw it. But I accept your point that it has this alternative meaning.

I don’t think it’s condoning pedophilia though.

Nillynally · 11/06/2019 21:26

The 10 has clearly been photoshopped and boy love is just a cutesy gay saying. You sound very agitated OP, I think you need to chill.

ConcreteUnderpants · 11/06/2019 21:26

Reading far too much into this, OP.
There are lots of things to get angry about in the LGBT community. Pop over the the female board.

As an aside, I quite like the 'pump' pants next to it.

Gooigi · 11/06/2019 21:29

Isn't the whole paedophiles 'infiltrating' the LGBT community thing a 4chan hoax? Paedo's aren't walking around advertising themselves of a t-shirt ffs.

restmysole · 11/06/2019 21:31

I clicked on the twitter account link above, and found a youtube video interviewing Dr James Cantor twittered by someone else with a warning that "normal" is being encroached and it is true he is advocating paedophiles are included as part of LGBT - he says doing that isn't "celebrating" paedophilia, "just" recognising it as an "orientation" - he makes a point of saying that the actual molestation isn't ok, but that people should accept that there is an orientation and the person affected has no control, and in the last 5 minutes he states he supports the idea of written stories about paedophile relationships which paedophiles can masturbate to as they won't harm anyone - pretty abhorrent imo, and it would normalise it, and it would be material which a child could at some point read by accident.

I have read an article by a former paedophile who got help, who realised that it was because he had been abused as a child and it had started thought grooves which he had and struggled with for years, but which he then with therapy eventually shifted - as an adult - this should be our focus in relation to such people, not validating their "orientation" by including them within the LGBT community.

So I can see the OP's point. "Boy love" doesn't mean much to me but once you start looking into it, "normal" boundaries are being pushed. If it is mistake, the manufacturer will re call all stock and destroy presumably.

As for the written material referred to above (and he used the phrase child pornography...) - the person being interviewed defended the idea, saying we have material out there which includes violence to women, murder, etc in video games - how could this be worse? Well, it is worse, and we should be fighting to get rid of the disgusting video games, not using them as a justification to cause more harm.

FiddlesticksAkimbo · 11/06/2019 21:31

Whoever happens to be reading this thread in a few years time - some of us saw this coming.

This is a ludicrous interpretation! We are so far from paedophilia being "normalised" that fathers get nervous about being challenged when out with their own children. People are inhibited from saying anything to or about other people's kids! There is a thoroughly unhealthy sense of paranoia around the whole issue. The idea that paedophiles will walk around advertising themselves by T shirt is simply laughable.

HJWT · 11/06/2019 21:35

Does this mean any form of rainbow 🌈 clothing now means it represents the LGBT community Confused

starzig · 11/06/2019 21:37

Saw some young muslim girls admiring a combat 18 t.shirt in an Asian run shop. I wouldnt have known the connotations of 'boy love' as they probably didn't realise what combat 18 was.

Circularfunction · 11/06/2019 21:37

It’s a gay thing. Stop being so pathetic.