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AIBU about money?

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dorokdorok · 11/06/2019 13:12

I'm wondering if I might be being unreasonable so I thought I'd see what the AIBU hordes might think.

I work part-time, DH works full-time. He earns more than me. I am employed, but my income fluctuates because I sometimes take on freelance work on top of this. So every month we look at what we've both earned and then split our monthly payment into the joint account accordingly. I think this is fair and I'm happy with this. Most of the time it's him paying 60% and me paying 40%, but very occasionally it's 50/50, and once or twice it has been me paying a bit more.

Anyway. Last year, my parents gave me (us) £24,000. An extremely generous gift made possible because they moved house and bought another, much cheaper one.

DH has never made any assumptions on what the money will be spent on, nor has he even asked me. He is very respectful about that, although as far as I'm concerned, it's our money. I made one slightly frivolous purchase (a very fancy tent and some other posh camping gear), and the rest has been at least partly spent on various home and garden improvements. There is till some money left (about £9k).

Last year, we converted our garage into an office, with electricity going in, nice new floor, roof, lighting, paint etc. It cost quite a lot of money but we paid for it together (it wasn't solely funded by the gift from my parents). We also refurbished our lounge and had a patio built.

Because the patio was built close to Christmas and DH had spent a lot on presents for me and our daughter, I paid for the patio with my parents' money. I didn't ask DH for a contribution, though he did offer.

Anyway, my AIBU is this: we have just had some very expensive fencing put in. It looks really nice, and we are happy with it. It cost just under £4k (it is close-board fencing, which is made up of individual planks of wood, nailed on by hand one by one - that's why it was so expensive). DH did not have money to put towards it, so I paid with my parents' money and asked that he pay me back his proportion towards the cost, which he is doing in instalments.

His proportion of the cost is higher than mine because of the difference in our incomes. He hasn't grumbled about paying towards the fence, but I'm wondering if it's fair of me to ask him, given that I have this money from my parents? I would like to put some of it into the mortgage. I also want some savings - I don't really have any at the moment because a lot has been spent on the house. But I could afford to just swallow up the cost of the fence.

DH wants to overpay the mortgage and is willing to contribute a certain amount of his income towards this each money. But can't he afford to start doing this until he has paid for the fence. I'm wondering if I'm being a bit unreasonable in asking him to contribute? Should I just write it off and then he can start overpaying instead? In the long run, wouldn't that benefit us better? I'm not too sure.

For full background, in the past he's paid the bulk of things and when we bought our house, he had lots of savings and I had none, so he paid most of our deposit. This is another reason why I feel a bit mean. But there is a tiny voice in my head that's also noticing he's spent a fortune on clothes and records recently. And so a small (and probably a bit mean) part of me is asking whether he would have been able to contribute more to the fence if he hadn't spent so much on all that stuff.

I should also add that we haven't argued about this at all, and I'm genuinely not sure what to do, hence this post. Please be gentle with me!

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user1474894224 · 11/06/2019 13:19

Ummmm, are you husband and wife? It sounds odd he pays/she pays...my savings....his savings....
I get that you may have assets from before you were together that are seen as his and hers. But surely once you are married and together you buy a house together, you put money into savings together, you pay off the mortgage together....Don't you jointly own the house? If so why would it matter whose job paid for the items.

Is there something you aren't saying?
Fwiw my take would be you put your earnings into the family pot and decide together how payments/savings leave the pot.

dorokdorok · 11/06/2019 13:27

No, there's nothing I'm not saying (why would there be? AIBU posters often seem to think there is another, sinister side to a story but there really isn't).

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MeredithGrey1 · 11/06/2019 13:30

I think there’s such a variation on how couples decide to deal with money that there isn’t really a right answer, or even a typical one.

But if I was given that money it would be seen as joint money - in fact my parents did recently gift us about half that amount and as we’ve just moved house some was spent on new furniture etc and some is still saved, but it’s not seen as my money that DH has to pay me back for.
But there will be other responses from people who would see it as separate money, and as your DH seems happy with the arrangement then I’d say you just have to do what works for you.

Boom45 · 11/06/2019 13:33

I'm not sure what you're asking. Are you upset he's buying new clothes when you're short of money? If you're struggling it might make more sense to budget first and worry abour a "fair" split after.

PanteneProV · 11/06/2019 13:33

I can’t imagine divvying up money within a marriage in this very regimented way so no help from me - is your husband ok with it? If so then I don’t really see the issue.

dorokdorok · 11/06/2019 13:36

No, I'm not upset about him spending money on stuff - it's his money. We are not struggling; he just doesn't have a spare couple of grand to pay for the fence and neither would I under normal circumstances.

I think you're all making me realise I'm being a bit weird and probably shouldn't ask him to pay "me" back, though. He's only paid a small contribution; he won't accept it if I say I've changed my mind and try to give it back, so perhaps I will put it into the mortgage instead.

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mrsm43s · 11/06/2019 13:39

Surely money is either mine/yours in which case you each pay 50% regardless of earnings, in which case you owe him for your 50% of the deposit, and all the times you've paid less than 50%, but yes he would have to give you 50% of the fence money.

or

It is shared in which case it is all pooled (salaries, windfalls, savings etc) and you both own it all equally.

This sounds a bit like "what is yours is shared, but what is mine is mine alone".

If he won the lottery, would you expect him to share it, or keep it for all for himself?

dorokdorok · 11/06/2019 13:43

If he won the lottery, would you expect him to share it, or keep it for all for himself?

I'd see it as his money, to do what he wanted with. I did have a tax windfall last year (quite a big one, after HMRC had massively overcharged me) - it all went on joint things and not into my account, so I don't take the view that what's mine is mine and what's his is ours. But point taken; I think I should probably just pay for the fence and not suggest we split it proportionally!

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Boom45 · 11/06/2019 13:47

Everyone manages their money differently as far as i can tell, do what works for you. But too much splitting of expenses when your married with a house and stuff just becomes a pain and a potential source of resentment in my experience.

Peachsummer · 11/06/2019 13:54

You’re married - surely all income goes into the same pot and you jointly own the house? If you get cancer and can’t work presumably he’ll support you on his income? And if he gets dementia you’ll pay for his care? Etc. Certainly if one of you loses your job the DWP will expect the other one to keep you - separate finances simply won’t wash. Most likely if you separate he’ll receive half of “your” inheritance too. Imo you’re causing yourself unnecessary hassle because legally it makes no difference who’s paid for what. The only really relevant issue is that you should receive the same amount of personal pocket money to spend as you wish.

HollowTalk · 11/06/2019 13:57

Why don't you both put everything into a pot and then have the same amount of spending money? It would make life a lot easier. Then he can spend his on clothes etc and you wouldn't have to think about what that money could've been spent on.

Purpleartichoke · 11/06/2019 14:00

Are you working part-time because you have children together? Is your DH compensating you for that childcare?

HollowTalk · 11/06/2019 14:03

I agree with the PP.

Make sure you are not disadvantaged financially by the fact you work part-time in order to look after the DC.

BlingLoving · 11/06/2019 14:05

Honestly, I lost track of who owes who what for what item about half way through your post. You're married, this level of nitpicking seems odd and unnecessary and I think you'd be better off thinking of a better system all round.

BlingLoving · 11/06/2019 14:06

Also, you earn less because your'e looking after the children? if you're going to be that nitpick about money, then I would suggest he should be paying you for childcare.

SmallAndFarAway · 11/06/2019 14:07

Yes, the big piece missing is whether you earn less because you're doing childcare - that massively determines what's fair or not.

mrsm43s · 11/06/2019 14:07

He subsidises you working part time - he shares his bigger income with you.

He subsidised your half of the house deposit - did he ask you to pay him back?

Previously he's spent his savings on things for the house - were you asked to pay your half?

If you pay for things proportionally, then surely when you have more money than him (savings) you should pay more (as he did with the house deposit etc)? But you expect to pay less...

No, don't ask him to pay you back.

mrsm43s · 11/06/2019 14:08

OP hasn't mentioned children at all.

slimmerwinner · 11/06/2019 14:10

@mrsm43s the OP HAS mentioned they share a DD 🙄

dorokdorok · 11/06/2019 14:10

Are you working part-time because you have children together? Is your DH compensating you for that childcare?

Yes, we have a 6 year old and I do the school drop off and pick up, and I don't normally work beyond 3pm. That's why I am part-time. Before that, I had a very good job and was the higher earner out of us both. He did in fact offer to be the person going part-time to stay at home with our child, but I wanted it to be me. My job was in London, and although I really loved the work, I was sick of the commute. I miss the work, but not the commute. I won't work in London again. This has a knock-on effect on my career prospects, but I'm okay with that.

I suppose he is 'compensating' me for the fact that I am with our child outside of school hours, because he shoulders the bulk of the household expenses most of the time.

Make sure you are not disadvantaged financially by the fact you work part-time in order to look after the DC.

@HollowTalk what do you mean exactly? I do have less disposable income because of it. I'm okay with that, though.

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herculepoirot2 · 11/06/2019 14:10

I couldn’t live like this, to be honest.

HollowTalk · 11/06/2019 14:10

Yes she did, @mrsm43s.

DH had spent a lot on presents for me and our daughter

slimmerwinner · 11/06/2019 14:11

I don't understand this OP. You're married with DC and you're talking like your friends "you can pay me back". Err, what?

kingsassassin · 11/06/2019 14:11

Op says in the op that they have a daughter.

HollowTalk · 11/06/2019 14:13

What I meant was that you should each have the same disposable income. The only difference might be if he needed expensive suits etc because of his job and if you work from home and don't need that.

But otherwise you should each put all your money into the pot and set aside money for bills, savings etc and then have the same spending money.

Are you saying that if you worked full time and he took care of your child then you'd keep more of your money for yourself?